Sean Smith... "the most coveted" free agent?

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  1. SCLSU Mud Dogs

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    Sean Smith - DB - Dolphins

    According to NFL Network's Ian Rapoport, "maybe the most coveted" name on the free-agent cornerback market is Sean Smith.

    Rapoport lists the Eagles, 49ers, Buccaneers, and Lions as teams that "value" Smith. All are cornerback needy, and Philadelphia reportedly likes Smith "a ton." Rapoport suggests the Eagles may let free agent Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie walk, sign Smith, and bring back Nnamdi Asomugha on a restructured contract.
    Related: 49ers, Buccaneers, Lions, Eagles

    Source: NFL.com


     
  2. MRojas4

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    I'm confused by the Eagles.

    Nnamdi and Smith both excell in man coverage schemes, yet Eagles run mostly zone. This is why Nnamdi got abused last year. So now you bring him back along with Smith who couldn't play zone to save his life?
     
  3. oasis

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    I remember Smith really looks up to Nnamdi and they had some conversations early in his career since they both fit the same size mold. I wonder if being around Nnamdi would do Smith some good.
     
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    Ian Rapaport seems like a moron.
     
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    I always said he is much more highly thought of in the NFL than he is in our fanbase. If Smith walks Miami will live to regret it.

    I wouldnt be at all surpised if Smith joins the Patriots.
     
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    No way in the world is Smith the most coveted free agent lol
     
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    5 career interceptions... need I say more. He dropped the Colt game. He may get the BIG contract but caveat emptor!
     
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    Pay the bucks. Bring him and Starks back, let everyone else walk.
     
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    Been saying this all offseason . . . when you factor in everything, Smith arguably weighs out as the best free agent CB on the market. He flashes shut down ability at times and he is still improving . . . many feel his best football is still ahead of him. He has great size . . . that is not easy to find in the NFL and yet people wanna just let him walk like he's a nobody. Truth is, people don't watch all of the other CBs every play and base there knowledge on subjective stats and automatcially discount Sean when he takes a minus on a play like other CBs don't.

    Oh yea, lets take on one of these CBs coming off of injury and 2 rookies and we'll be fine. Truth is, odds are against Miami that they find 2 CBs in the draft that are equal to Smith and Davis, let alone an improvement. CBs are coveted in today's NFL, which is why they have the third highest franchise number in the NFL.

    Miami would do well retaining Sean Smith . . . . and the Jason McCourty deal would be a good deal for both sides. (6 years / 43 million)
     
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    It says he's the most coveted FA corner. Big difference
     
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    I wouldn't mind if Smith walks, I'm not a big fan of his but he is "our" guy. I do believe that he can still improved. He looked great the first 4 or 5 games and then started playing soft again.

    Anyway, do we play Philly this year?

    I would love to go to there stadium and see Tanny throw for 500 yards on Nnambdi and Sean Smith lol. Hilarious. Neither of those guys scare me one bit. Too lanky.
     
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    What's the likelihood that he gets how to play zone?
     
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    MRojas4, the Eagles have new coaches and likely a new scheme.

    Sean and Nnamdi would make a formidable tandem in man coverage.
     
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    Sean is so average at best
     
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    IMO Sean is very good in press coverage.
     
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    Don't buy it. Just another pre-FA/pre-draft smokescreen.
     
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    True. Sean plays taller WR's very well IMO in man coverage.

    He's also a good redzone CB - even though he did get beat once for a score in the clutch this year.

    No one is unbeatable - even Revis (or my favorite from back in the day Lester "the Molester" Hayes) can be beat.
     
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    Dont be surprised if the Tag is used on him, instead of Starks or Long.
     
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    Can't wait until another team signs Sean Smith....the sooner the better.
     
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    I'd rather see them work out a deal, but I don't think it's in Miami's best interest to lose him in the offseason. The franchise option is definitely an option and that could lead to a longer term deal prior to the season starting.
     
  21. phinman1

    phinman1 Seriously now

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    Most coveted FA? What a laughable crock of sh**. The guy is the opposite of a play maker. He never has made them, and he never will. These days you need your DB's to have SOME KIND of ball hawking ability. He has none.

    Hope he goes.
     
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    Uh what?
     
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    Haha wow, the funny part is that they call this a "good" CB free agent market. Not that good of a CB market if Sean Smith is the most highly sought after. He has size....and thats about it, zero play making ability
     
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    Sean Smith has elite tangibles. It's the intangibles and instinct that he lacks IMO.
     
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    Unfortunately you cant teach instinct....you either have it or you don't.
     
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    Why on God's green earth would you covet players who are lazy, and lack heart? Guys that leave plays on the field while having no desire to be great? Dudes who are weak minded that require either Grandma's approval or that of the Twitter world? Why would a GM look to get equal value for those qualities? What type of backwards decision making must a GM have that would make him fearful in their ability to replace people who have displayed a consistent ineptitude for the game?

    My friend, you are a person who's logic (on this topic . . .) makes absolutely no sense.

    In my book, you either swing for the fences in this life or don't act and watch other people be great behind the fences.
     
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    Ok, so my opinon on a players talents is a direct result of the type of person that I am . . . am I getting this correct? You don't know me, so don't assume anything about me . . . my friend.

    When you say players are lazy and lack heart . . . . who are these players and how personal do you know them to where you believe they are lazy or lack heart? Does a players personality mean more than the talent on the field? Because there are a bunch of UDFA's who are probably Jeff Ireland / Joe Philbin guys from a personality standpoint but can't sniff the field on Sundays. In this league you need talent, and in 5 years of being the GM, the 2 best CBs that Jeff Ireland have brought in were Vontae Davis and Sean Smith . . . . this is from Free Agency and the draft. We have seen guys like Eric Green and Gibril Wilson receive solid contracts only to **** the bed (in Eric Green's case literally) yet we are expecting to get rid of our 2 best Cbs from this regime in less than a year and magically replace them with draft picks and free agents like the past never happened? I'm a realist and your disdain for Vontae and Smith for whatever reason has messed with your perception of reality.

    The fact that you call out Vontae because of a Hard Knocks episode where he wanted to call his grandma just shows you that you have no respect and no idea about his life and his circumstances and you clearly overlooked his playmaking ability he flashed for the Colts . . . something this team certainly could use right now. Is he squeaky clean . . . no . . . is he immature . . . yea he is . . . who gives a damn, the kid can play and the kid is physically gifted . . . but I guess we'll settle for Carroll, Wilson, Patterson and Marshall next season and hopefully those guys can swing for the fences together. So Sean Smith was outspoken on Twitter early on in his career . . . what does that have to do with anything?

    I can tell you obviously put Jeff Ireland on a pedastool so we will never agree, but what in his tenure has he shown you to give you confidence that he'll get the right skill position personnel, both on offense and defense, to field a solid team? I'm hopeful, but I haven't seen it . . . however the list of free agent busts and draft pick failures probably quadruples the list of solid finds.
     
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    Sensitive much?!
     
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    Keep the peace here. If you need to step away from the keyboard and get some fresh air.

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    LOLOLOLOLOL! That is some funny ****, seriously is this a prank? Is Sean Smith getting punked?
     
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    Couldnt agree more......we need to keep him. He is worth the7-8mil he wants
     
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    Sean Smith who should be an elite corner. He has all the tools to do this. I don't doubt that one bit. However, my problem is that you can't just hope forever for a guy to reach his potential. The fact that he has only 5 picks in his career i find absolutely shocking. He is too inconsistent and too unreliable. I wouldn't be disappointed if we resigned him for a two or three year deal and maybe address it again in a year if he improves. But he does not warrant the money he wants. If he played the whole season like he did the first 5 or 6 games i wouldn't have a problem but he had some terrible performances in the second half of the season. I would much rather target Derek Cox and let Smith walk but i wouldn't be upset if we kept Smith. We need to draft a CB whether we keep Smith or not because Patterson or Carroll are not #2 corners.
     
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    Its pretty ironic that you type "you either swing for the fences in this life or don't act and watch other people be great" When Sean Smith is one of the most highly sought FA CB in this FA in the NFL yet you call him lazy and lack heart. Yes hes lazy and lacks heart because he misplays a few balls yet how many people go out every single day try to play NFL corner and don't make it because they aren't good enough.. He has has no desire to be great? When Marshall was playing and he was ABLE to play MAN COVERAGE he was great. He played AJ Green and Fitzgerald very well. When Marshall got hurt and we were forced to play more zone he disappointed because he isn't a zone corner. The whole "A Player is lazy because they aren't the best at their position" is complete BS.
     
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    Agree 100%
     
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    Perhaps in the CFL or Lingerie League...
     
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    If a DB can't succeed with Croyle as his coach then he poetically won't succeed. I really liked this guy coming out of college but he just doesn't seem to get it. Good riddance Mr. Smith.
     
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    Nah, but if you got a point to make, you can do it without insinuating the type of person that I am. I don't expect people to agree with everything I have to say because I certainly don't agree with everything people have to say . . . but differentiating opinons is what makes this board what it is.
     
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    Thing with Derek Cox is, he's a walking injury and you honestly can't let Smith go and expect Cox to be reliable enough to take over for him. If you target Derek Cox, it is to pair with Sean Smith. Either way a CB needs to be on the menu with one of those first 5 picks in the draft.

    Smith hasn't played CB very long. It's not an excuse, he has dropped wayyyy to many INTs and that is a disturbing trend that just has to turn around for him. I seriously think it's fluky as hell and it's one of those things that can turn around in the span of one year . . . where he goes from like 2 INT's to 8 or 9 INT's . . . his hands have failed him. I honestly believe his best days at CB are ahead of him.

    I hope he sticks around . . . I didn't hear one whimper from him in 4 years of him playing at a 500,000 a year contract and he has earned the right to be a free agent and seek a deal that is fitting for him, whether people think he deserves it or not. Hopefully we can work something out to where he stays a Dolphin.
     
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    I don't think he has failed under Coyle . . . we certainly had to take him away from what he does best due to the deficiencies of the rest of the CB group and that affected his play during the latter part of the year, but to call Smith a failure . . . I just don't see where the hate for him comes from. He was playing a high level early on. I mean people have a certain disdain for him that is Michael Egnew like . . . and all the guy has done is be a starter from day 1 and yet people call him a colossal failure . . . I don't see it, but it is what it is.
     

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