Super Bowl Takeaways For The Dolphins?

[royalshank]

Agree.

Weird how the 49ers came out passing in the 3rd quarter. They had an opportunity after the Mahomes interception.

You have Christian McCaffrey and you go away from him there?

That was Shanahan's mistake with Atlanta too against New England. And we've all complained that McDaniel doesn't stick with the run.

My observation for what it's worth.

Agreed 100%. It was similar in a way. McCaffrey was a beast all game but he didn’t use him in the 2nd half enough - to your point, he did what he did in the Atlanta SB w the passing. Then in OT he got back to it and they go on that long drive. And yep, I’m concerned that our guy has similar tendencies.

 

[BrowardDolfan]

Does watching this game make you think the Dolphins are close, or not close?
-I think both defenses tougher
-Both QBs made plays with their legs, especially Mahomes
-Mahomes used his height and size to his advantage as well
-Both QBs were disciplined game managers, were patient, and did not force things. Mahomes only mistake was a physical one, just a missed throw, but he went to an open receiver with the ball and just airmailed it. Dolphins seem to force it too much on offense sometimes. There are times when being a game manager is ok
-Reid's playcalling was really good when it mattered most

I am sure there is more people can add. I am just throwing out a few things. Oddly, I didn't think this game was clean or particularly well played, which makes you think the Dolphins could have hung with either team. On the other hand, if you rolled the Dolphins out there, something tells me this years incarnation of the team would not have made a game of it

Hard to know until we know who's coming back and who's not.

As far as this past year's team is concerned, when fully healthy, they were close, but still not on that level yet. Key weaknesses for Miami: line play on O and D and special teams.

 

[BrowardDolfan]

Agreed 100%. It was similar in a way. McCaffrey was a beast all game but he didn’t use him in the 2nd half enough - to your point, he did what he did in the Atlanta SB w the passing. Then in OT he got back to it and they go on that long drive. And yep, I’m concerned that our guy has similar tendencies.

Yep, I placed Atlanta's choke job in that SB against the Patriots squarely on Shanahan. I remember screaming at the TV to run the damn ball, but he insisted on passing when up by 25 and boom, Brady and Belicheat get another ring.

 

[phinsforlife]

Well your "love child" has about 3 to 3.5 seconds to throw...but you already new this but your obsession all things Tua had to be fed.

your act bagging on all the other QBs who are winning big games, while offering nothing but praise for Tua who is losing them (and attacking others offering fair and reasonable criticisms), is getting quite tired. i go by the scoreboard

 

[royalshank]

Shanahan let the defense force him out of running the ball just like McDaniel does.
Just confounding what these guys do

Shanahan has now been the play caller for 3 blown double digit leads in SBs. In all 3 he got away from the run and kept throwing the ball w QBs who were just not effective / got worse as the game progressed. And our guy learned from him. I have my reservations about this “system”

 

[royalshank]

Yep, I placed Atlanta's choke job in that SB against the Patriots squarely on Shanahan. I remember screaming at the TV to run the damn ball, but he insisted on passing when up by 25 and boom, Brady and Belicheat get another ring.

I think only 2 run plays in the second half or something

 

[powerball1373]

I’m sure most will disagree but I think Brock Purdy and Tua are the same player.

I think they’re so similar that if we sent Tua to SF and brought Brock Purdy to Miami that both teams would have ended up exactly where they finished.

My point is… watching Brock Purdy tonight with the best roster in football around him is exactly what it would be with Tua if we had the best roster in the league.

Good enough to get to the SB but not good enough to win it. Bottom line… Purdy got his team a FG when it mattered most and Mahomes got the TD when it mattered most.

That just about sums it up. My point is… even with the best roster in the league around Tua… we would fall short bc we have to get through Mahomes.

We don’t have the best roster in football nor are we going to anytime soon so why waste a huge contract on Tua when we know he isn’t beating Mahomes when it matters most?

I understand the conundrum with the salary cap and lack of picks that we’re pretty much forced into bringing Tua back but let him play on the 5th year option. Don’t give him some huge deal that’s going to strangle our ability to acquire top talent any more than it’s already going to be.

Let him play out the 5th year and see what happens and if we somehow did make a SB or even a conference championship game then I would understand giving him a deal. Otherwise if we falter again next year then the offseason after next year it would be time to tear it down and start all over again.

Tua is never going to beat Mahomes/Burrow/Jackson/Allen when it matters most and even if he somehow did beat one of them more than likely he’s going to have to face 2 of those in the same playoffs to get us where we want to go.

With Tua… it ain’t happen’n cap’n.

Silly take. Purdy was absolutely good enough to win tonight. He gave his team the lead at the end of the 4th quarter and to start OT. Taking the GOAT to OT means the game was by definition a tossup, and either team could have won. It could have just as easily been Purdy on the winning side tonight.

 

[AMakados10]

Well Mahomes will probably be in the Superbowl every other season on average. That leaves Burrow, Allen, Jackson, Tua, Herbert, Rodgers, Lawrence, and Stroud playing musical chairs for a shot every other season.

 

[MiaFins31]

purdy uses his legs alot better than tua does. purdy is also a better game manager. just doesnt force it as much and turn the ball over.

Yes he uses his legs better but Tua is much more aggressive down the field.

Obviously they have different strengths and weaknesses but overall I think the comparison is spot on.

Purdy is a better game manger but that’s bc he has the best roster in football to lean on and help him.

We have a good running game but we don’t have a Christian McCaffrey. We also don’t have a top 5ish OL like Purdy does.

But that’s exactly my point. Switch Tua and Purdy and both teams are exactly the same as they are now.

SF with Tua would still be good enough to get to the SB but not good enough to win it and Miami would still be a one and done playoff team.

Also as a side note… it’s truly unbelievable watching SF abandon the run in the 3rd quarter when they had the lead the momentum and the ball. That’s exactly what Mike has done repeatedly in games where all we had to do was keep running the football and we win the game.

I don’t think it’s a coincidence that Mike came from the Shanahan tree after watching Kyle do the same thing tonight. Both Mike and Kyle get to impatient and start throwing the ball instead of taking those 3/4 yard runs that keep the chains moving and keep Mahomes on the sideline.

It was just unbelievable watching Shanahan do that tonight and let KC stay in the game.

 

[MiaFins31]

Silly take. Purdy was absolutely good enough to win tonight. He gave his team the lead at the end of the 4th quarter and to start OT. Taking the GOAT to OT means the game was by definition a tossup, and either team could have won. It could have just as easily been Purdy on the winning side tonight.

Absolutely not.

What you’re saying is completely wrong. Purdy had multiple opportunities to put the game away and he came up short.

When it mattered most… he came away with a FG and Mahomes came away with the TD. That IS the difference in the NFL bro.

At this level the margins are the smallest most miniscule things as you saw tonight.

Purdy was absolutely not good enough to win it bc he didn’t win it. He had the better roster and team around him. They had a 10 point lead. He couldn’t put KC away when he had the chances.

So no… he was not good enough otherwise he would have been raising the trophy. The NFL is about the smallest margins. Guys that get FGs lose. Guys that get TDs win. That’s the smallest of differences.

 

[keller377]

We are not going anywhere with McDaniel calling plays. Tua may be solvable if we get a good Oline. Purdy had plenty of time to throw compared to Tua. We also need a TE once Kittle went down San fran stagnated. We need a solid pass-catching and block TE to complement Durham Smythe. I think Achane will be big for us next year as well as Brooks. Beef up the lines and get OC to call plays and Ithink we closer then we think.

Stagnated on their way to the red zone???

 

[JamesWsenior]

your act bagging on all the other QBs who are winning big games, while offering nothing but praise for Tua who is losing them (and attacking others offering fair and reasonable criticisms), is getting quite tired. i go by the scoreboard

Hey mate. I will be the first to say Tua needs to improve. So does everyone outside of Mahomes.

Now it's your prerogative to obsess about his short comings and spend your entire life starting topics again and again and yet again about your dislike of Tua. Last time I checked you are about 12 so far in 2024. Pro-rated you are on pace for 72 topics dedicated to your "obsession".

Some people might refer to such behavior as compulsive...in case you were wondering. What time where you are...after midnight in Feb and here you are.. amazing really.

 

[MARINO1384]

Shanahan has now been the play caller for 3 blown double digit leads in SBs. In all 3 he got away from the run and kept throwing the ball w QBs who were just not effective / got worse as the game progressed. And our guy learned from him. I have my reservations about this “system”

Number one reason why coaches should not be play callers. Unless you’ve been doing it for 20+ years like Reid let someone else do it. You end up just winging it instead of scheming once teams adjust because you have no time in between series as you then switch focus to the defense. This is one of the main reasons Miami was phenomenal first few drives that were well planned and thought out vs the 2nd half when teams adjusted and McDaniel continued to wing it and double down on original game plan.

 

[powerball1373]

Absolutely not.

What you’re saying is completely wrong. Purdy had multiple opportunities to put the game away and he came up short.

When it mattered most… he came away with a FG and Mahomes came away with the TD. That IS the difference in the NFL bro.

At this level the margins are the smallest most miniscule things as you saw tonight.

Purdy was absolutely not good enough to win it bc he didn’t win it. He had the better roster and team around him. They had a 10 point lead. He couldn’t put KC away when he had the chances.

So no… he was not good enough otherwise he would have been raising the trophy. The NFL is about the smallest margins. Guys that get FGs lose. Guys that get TDs win. That’s the smallest of differences.

Disagree. I'd say it was more of a Kyle Shanahan failure than Purdy. But by all means go ahead, if you want to continue the self-hating by using this as a way to put down your own QB lol.

 

[keller377]

He couldn't even get a 1st down or a FG vs Tennessee. The best he could do was a FG vs Dallas aided by a face mask penalty. But Tua is going to get extended, if only to aid with the salary cap and Grier and McDaniel aren't’ going to admit they was wrong on tua.

Tua attempted 1 pass after going up 14 vs TN.

Mahomes 2nd scramble was nice. The first one though, there's not a QB in the league that wouldn't get a first down. And the long one earlier in the game too.