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How strong do you think the relationship was between those offensive line rankings and passer rating in 2016?

If one considers those rankings to be valid, and one believes that passer rating is strongly influenced by offensive line play, then one should expect a strong relationship between the two.
One would assume that they could figure this out without asking redundant questions over and over again.
 
Anyone ever wonder why Matt Ryan was all of the sudden the NFL mvp? Offensive line was probably the league's best outside of Dallas, and look what Dak did
 
Anyone ever wonder why Matt Ryan was all of the sudden the NFL mvp? Offensive line was probably the league's best outside of Dallas, and look what Dak did

Bingo.

And, wait for it . . .

One of the best offensive coaches and playcallers in Kyle Shanahan. Ryan is a really good QB but you don't make leaps like that without your surroundings dictating it so.
 
According to Football Outsiders Atlanta's pass protection was worse than ours, and it got a lot worse in 2016 going from being ranked 9th in 2015 to 23rd in '16. So there goes that theory.
 
According to Football Outsiders Atlanta's pass protection was worse than ours, and it got a lot worse in 2016 going from being ranked 9th in 2015 to 23rd in '16. So there goes that theory.

You dont really belive that do you?

http://mobile.atlantafalcons.com/ne...-in-2016/340de7d5-257d-4806-808d-9ca9947bb4cb

https://www.thefalcoholic.com/2016/...ive-line-at-the-center-of-revitalized-offense

https://www.profootballfocus.com/ne...-nfl-offensive-lines-entering-the-2016-season
 
According to Football Outsiders Atlanta's pass protection was worse than ours, and it got a lot worse in 2016 going from being ranked 9th in 2015 to 23rd in '16. So there goes that theory.

What makes you think that pass protection is strictly a function of just the offensive line?

In both examples below the RBs fail to pickup the blitzer.





There's more where that came from if needed.
 
According to Football Outsiders Atlanta's pass protection was worse than ours, and it got a lot worse in 2016 going from being ranked 9th in 2015 to 23rd in '16. So there goes that theory.
Let's take a look at there offense of line rankings.
6. ATLANTA FALCONS (5)
Top overall grade: C Alex Mack, 90.5 (No. 2)

Top pass-blocking grade: LG Andy Levitre, 86.4 (No. 12)

Top run-blocking grade: C Alex Mack, 91.6 (No. 1)

Free-agent acquisition Alex Mack has been a huge boost to this unit, stepping in from day one and returning to his best play, which ranks him among the best centers in the game. Mack made the PFF All-Pro second team with a grade of 90.5, just 0.2 off the highest grade over the season. The Falcons’ line was at its best when blocking for the ground game, opening holes for Devonta Freeman and Tevin Coleman to combine for 1,599 rushing yards and 19 touchdowns. As a pass-blocking unit, they have been good, not great, and RG Chris Chester has struggled in that area in particular, surrendering 45 total pressures over 628 pass-blocking snaps. Atlanta was likely hoping to see a little more from LT Jake Matthews, who appeared to plateau after his big improvement a year ago, rather than continue that development.

And ours...
30. MIAMI DOLPHINS (19)
Top overall grade: RT Ja’Wuan James, 78.0 (No. 32)

Top pass-blocking grade: LG Laremy Tunsil, 79.3 (No. 40)

Top run-blocking grade: RT Ja’Wuan James, 81.0 (No. 18)

The loss of Mike Pouncey hurt this team in a major way, and he went down after just 301 snaps of action. Jermon Bushrod was a huge problem at RG all season, allowing five sacks and 34 total QB pressures as a pass blocker. He was also disastrous in the run game, with a 34.9 run-blocking grade, making him the lowest-graded guard league-wide in that facet. Rookie Laremy Tunsil flashed talent throughout the year, but had as many bad games as good ones, and the longer the season wore on, the worse Branden Albert began to look at LT, highlighted by his performance against James Harrison and the Steelers in the Wild Card round of the playoffs.

I hope this doesn't get in the way of your narrative
 
Let's take a look at there offense of line rankings.
6. ATLANTA FALCONS (5)
Top overall grade: C Alex Mack, 90.5 (No. 2)

Top pass-blocking grade: LG Andy Levitre, 86.4 (No. 12)

Top run-blocking grade: C Alex Mack, 91.6 (No. 1)

Free-agent acquisition Alex Mack has been a huge boost to this unit, stepping in from day one and returning to his best play, which ranks him among the best centers in the game. Mack made the PFF All-Pro second team with a grade of 90.5, just 0.2 off the highest grade over the season. The Falcons’ line was at its best when blocking for the ground game, opening holes for Devonta Freeman and Tevin Coleman to combine for 1,599 rushing yards and 19 touchdowns. As a pass-blocking unit, they have been good, not great, and RG Chris Chester has struggled in that area in particular, surrendering 45 total pressures over 628 pass-blocking snaps. Atlanta was likely hoping to see a little more from LT Jake Matthews, who appeared to plateau after his big improvement a year ago, rather than continue that development.

And ours...
30. MIAMI DOLPHINS (19)
Top overall grade: RT Ja’Wuan James, 78.0 (No. 32)

Top pass-blocking grade: LG Laremy Tunsil, 79.3 (No. 40)

Top run-blocking grade: RT Ja’Wuan James, 81.0 (No. 18)

The loss of Mike Pouncey hurt this team in a major way, and he went down after just 301 snaps of action. Jermon Bushrod was a huge problem at RG all season, allowing five sacks and 34 total QB pressures as a pass blocker. He was also disastrous in the run game, with a 34.9 run-blocking grade, making him the lowest-graded guard league-wide in that facet. Rookie Laremy Tunsil flashed talent throughout the year, but had as many bad games as good ones, and the longer the season wore on, the worse Branden Albert began to look at LT, highlighted by his performance against James Harrison and the Steelers in the Wild Card round of the playoffs.

I hope this doesn't get in the way of your narrative


If the Dolphins' offensive line were to improve from 30 to 6 according to those rankings, how much of an improvement in their quarterback play would they experience?
 
What makes you think that pass protection is strictly a function of just the offensive line?

In both examples below the RBs fail to pickup the blitzer.





There's more where that came from if needed.


This is why I don't understand why we haven't signed Rashad Jennings. He wants to continue playing and the Dolphins have spoken to him. He has been consistently the best, or one of the best blocking RB's in the league for last several years. He is ten times better than Damien Williams as a 3rd down back.

Williams was missing blitz pickups again this preseason and he is always clueless on screen passes. Jennings is an elite blocker and a good receiver. Neither one of them can effectively carry the rock.

Dolphins should try to get a 7th for Williams and move on. It wouldn't even cost us anything; I'm sure Jennings would sign for 1.7 million.
 
Anyone ever wonder why Matt Ryan was all of the sudden the NFL mvp? Offensive line was probably the league's best outside of Dallas, and look what Dak did


How do you make sense of the fact that Matt Ryan was sacked on a greater percentage of his pass dropbacks in 2016 than in any other season of his career?
 
Sacks are also QB stat his ability to avoid sacks is also part of the equation.
 
How do you make sense of the fact that Matt Ryan was sacked on a greater percentage of his pass dropbacks in 2016 than in any other season of his career?
Change in play calling? More blitzing? Holding onto the ball longer? Could be many reasons that have nothing to do with OL quality. This is precisely why you need to watch the games and cannot rely on the box score alone.
 
If the Dolphins' offensive line were to improve from 30 to 6 according to those rankings, how much of an improvement in their quarterback play would they experience?
Hard to say but there is a 10 to 20 point increase in Tannehill's QB rating simply by having his mediocre line in tact.
 
If the Dolphins' offensive line were to improve from 30 to 6 according to those rankings, how much of an improvement in their quarterback play would they experience?
Hahahahahahaha
 
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