Disgustipate
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Here's the "Why NFL 40 times are bull****" article-
http://www.usoc.org/11611_32384.htm
http://www.usoc.org/11611_32384.htm
Tell you why...ok, the fastest time ever electronically recorded at the NFL Combine is a 4.33 by Fabian Washington from what I understand. So out of nowhere, a receiver who NFL draft sites have running in the mid 4.5's runs a legitimate 4.28? I think you are the one who needs to tell me why I should believe this.
Also, no one "reported" it. A player said it on the radio.
Okay well we can start off with the fact that NFL 40 times in general aren't very accurate. Most track stars only run about a 4.35 there was a really good article about it in another thread, about how NFL/College 40 times are inaccurate due to the conditions they are taken in.
Second of all like I said these times are never right. They timed Vick out of high school at something like 4.23, Vince Young at a low 4.4, Reggie Bush at 4.3 and none of those times were accurate at all. The guys timing them usually give them the benefit of crossing the line sooner and human error comes into play.
I'd bet my and my families lives that he didnt run a clean 4.28
Seriously those times are never ever ever right.
Didn't they also say Ginn ran about a 4.25 or something, Michael Vick ran a 4.2 and Marcus was faster
Fabian Washington's electronically recorded time at the 2005 combine was 4.25. Also, just because draft websites have some old, possibly inaccurate 40 time, why does that have to be his max? Vernon Davis drastically improved his 40 time from midway through his college career to the combine. I believe, at one point Athletes Performance had him as a registered 4.6...he ran a 4.38 I believe, proving that athletes can drastically increase their times with the correct training and conditioning.
I never said anything about accuracy. I was illustrating that someone who is sitting at a computer, whistling out their *** can't really discredit something that is reported on a radio. Whether or not he can run a 4.28, a 4.35, or a 4.5 on any other track is irrelevant to my point.
I accept that some times are miscalculated, but that still doesn't prove anything. I'm not sure where you got your times from -- Vince ran a 4.5 flat at the Nike Pro camp coming out of HS...He weighed 195 lbs...At 230 lbs at his pro day, didn't he run a 4.57? So it's possible that time could have been correct. Not sure about Reggie.
Guys, I think you're missing my point anyway. I didn't say he did run it -- I said you can't prove that he didn't run it with no factual evidence and basing the entire thing purely on assumption and intuition.
Yeah man not shooting the messenger or anything...I think it was cool that you took the time to post something you heard on the radio because many people obviously didn't get a chance to listen. I was just trying to cool the enthusiasm a little bit.
That said, I don't think he will run in the 4.3's and would be shocked if he ran below 4.45. I've followed this kid quite a bit and I'm a pretty big fan, but I just don't think he is anywhere near as fast as Timmons claimed.
Tell you why...ok, the fastest time ever electronically recorded at the NFL Combine is a 4.33 by Fabian Washington from what I understand. So out of nowhere, a receiver who NFL draft sites have running in the mid 4.5's runs a legitimate 4.28? I think you are the one who needs to tell me why I should believe this.
Also, no one "reported" it. A player said it on the radio.
nope, Hill the DB from last years draft ran a 4.32
Ok bro that's not the point, Hysterikill already pointed out that I was wrong on Washington's time. My whole point is that Walker didn't run 4.28.
And we've already established that...
Let it go... lol :wink:
I'm not sitting here talking to myself. People are quoting me and I am responding. And I did comment earlier in the thread on the fact that 40 time aside, I like Walker as a receiver.