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Salguero - Neither Rosen Or Fitzpatrick Will Be The Dolphins Long Term Quarterback

Vegas/gambling is the ultimate form of crowdsourced opinion.

Their experts may set initial odds, but they change constantly based on bets. It’s math. It is not prognostication based on facts.

That said, crowdsourced opinions based on gambling tend to be relatively accurate.
 
Rowdy1972 said:
Haha they didnt suck last year I can guarantee you that. They make their money. Vegas gives you a price that is free from biases and emotion (unlike 95% of the responses on this site). Whatever way you want to look at it. Vegas gives us over 3 times better odds of getting the first pick than making the playoffs. You arent gonna win this argument. That's not to say the moon and sun don't align and we make the playoffs but its highly unlikely.
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Whoa, don't put words in my mouth I do not think we will make the playoffs but I also don't think we'll have a top 5 pick. I think we'll be 5-11 - 8-8 like usual. Of course Vegas made their money they always do just saying they had Cleveland, Indy and Chicago (and a few others) picking before Arizona. Basically my feeling is we have just as little a chance of being a bottom 5 team as we do a top 12 team. So 13-26 somewhere in there (or picking 6 - 20 if you wish). I may not win the argument today but lets see in January.
 
DolfanISS said:
Whoa, don't put words in my mouth I do not think we will make the playoffs but I also don't think we'll have a top 5 pick. I think we'll be 5-11 - 8-8 like usual. Of course Vegas made their money they always do just saying they had Cleveland, Indy and Chicago (and a few others) picking before Arizona. Basically my feeling is we have just as little a chance of being a bottom 5 team as we do a top 12 team. So 13-26 somewhere in there (or picking 6 - 20 if you wish). I may not win the argument today but lets see in January.
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You said we had the same odds to make the playoffs than to get the top pick. That's not true. Its really not even close.
 
Rowdy1972 said:
You said we had the same odds to make the playoffs than to get the top pick. That's not true.
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So you're telling me the chances of us being the 32nd best team is way greater than us being a top 12 team because of Vegas odds. Ok then you’re right but I don’t agree with that. In my opinion we won’t be a playoff team or the 32 best and that is the most likely thing to happen. Time will tell!
 
DolfanISS said:
So you're telling me the chances of us being the 32nd best team is way greater than us being a top 12 team because of Vegas odds. Ok then you’re right but I don’t agree with that. In my opinion we won’t be a playoff team or the 32 best and that is the most likely thing to happen. Time will tell!
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Like I said the emotion of fans is taken out with vegas. They got us at 4.5 win total. Going under is gonna put us right there haha Do I think we will be the worst team? Not sure. Do I think we make the playoffs? HIGHLY UNLIKELY. Is this team even remotely close to ANY TEAM in this group: Chiefs, Patriots, Chargers, Colts, Texans, Jags, Browns, Texans, Steelers? That's nine teams. Only 6 get in the playoffs. Get my drift?
 
FYI tua just named the top prospect for 2020 class by Mel kiper.

The race to finish last has officially begun
 
This season can't get here soon enough. The hypothetical's are mind numbing.

16 games will answer the questions we all have and prepare us for what I expect to be a very thrilling off season in 2020.

Josh Rosen will reveal his true self, for better or worse. I'm not trying to think about the No.1 pick 3 weeks before the start of the regular season when I KNOW I have a talented 22 year old passer on my roster.
 
I wonder if those who are expecting to win 5-8 games this season are going to blame Flores when we maybe win 2-3 games.
 
My site has them at under 4.5 (-130). Over 4.5 (+110)

Not really interested in either side of that. Gun to my head I'm obviously taking the under but if I am going to make money betting against Miami, I'd rather do it on a week by week basis.

I currently have 22 parlays active with Baltimore on the money line -200, in which I've already won all the other selected wagers. I'll still be rooting for Josh Rosen to cost me money in that game.
 
more armando hee haw nonsense. if he is an insider im davy crockett.
 
The race to #1 overall has been on for months. The Dolphins did almost nothing this off season. They paid down debt. That's pretty much it.

They drafted Christian Wilkins and accidentally got lucky on a UDFA Preston Williams. Both will be rookies. Even if they're successful rookies, they're not going to big high impact. Rookies are rookies.

Meanwhile they jettisoned Ja'Wuan James, Cameron Wake, Frank Gore, and Robert Quinn, and then downgraded from Ryan Tannehill to Ryan Fitzpatrick/Josh Rosen (yes, that's a downgrade). Those were all impact players, flaws or not.

They might get lucky on some other scratch-off tickets.

One of my personal favorites that way is Chris Reed, but I have no illusions that they picked up the next Evan Mathis. I just think that WHEN Daniel Kilgore goes down injured this year (which I personally think will happen), Reed could step in and keep that particular position stable, maybe even play better than Kilgore. If you're a TANK guy, that's not a great thing because losing a starter like Kilgore and then having a circus of guys like Tony Adams and Kyle Fuller try and take up the job is one of the ways you end up with that 1-15 record.

Jaryd Jones-Smith could also end up an accidental find worth sticking on the roster longer term, albeit simply as a swing backup.

They may have also pulled a happy accident with Nick DeLuca, but I would have a ton more I would want to see before I really breathe life into that one.
 
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