3ypc-(kris Richard-coach Search) Episode 1.56

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  1. BobDole

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    Agreed. He's pretty zen now. You hear about all the new age-y stuff he does in Seattle and you figure California rubbed off on him in a big way. The pressers are completely different when compared to his Jets days.

    I never cared about Seattle before but I kind of root for them now. I dig the defense and fans and QB ... and apparently coach. He's done a hell of a job there minus one insane play call they still haven't recovered from.
     
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    Wouldn't read too much into it - Belicheck was handled the same way with Parcells and he does it with people he really believes in (Flores). I've heard that from two people who played for Belicheck.

    Look, I will be happy with either Richard or Flores but I am tending to lean towards Flores. He's got a persona that players will still connect with after 5 years, not just 1 year.
     
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    Interesting. I wonder then if "fired" was the way to go? Couldn't he have simply stepped down? It brings an entirely different connotation when someone is fired from a job and doesn't seem to support the purpose of furthering Richard's career. Bottom line, I know a lot of good coaches are fired in the NFL. It's part of the job that any coach has to have thick skin about.
     
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    I guess age can do that. Carroll was very young when he started in the coaching profession.
     
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  5. J. David Wannyheimer

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    The way NFL firings work is: If you fire a coach, he keeps collecting his checks and you no longer have his coaching rights. If he resigns, he stops collecting his checks AND he can't actually go get another job without asking permission.
     
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    The Seahawks let Richard out of his contract.
     
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    Correct. And then people just make up words to describe that, and attach meaning to them.
     
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    Garrett should've been fired years ago. I'd be surprised if Jones finally pulls the trigger after a playoff run.

    Plus Richard doesn't seem like the type to be Jones' marionette, as required.
     
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    Jerry Jones loves the guy, apparently. Had the Cowboys missed the playoffs, he’d be their head coach right now.

    I think what we need is for Dallas to be competitive with the Rams this weekend, or even better, win. Rumors are swirling out here that Bob McNair’s death has shook him up a little and he’s worried about dying before winning a championship. I think a successful playoff run will goad Jerry into keeping Garrett another year or 2, which would open up the opportunity for Richard to come to Miami. But if they get blown out, Jerry might feel that Garrett can’t hang with the big dogs and make the switch.

    This is the most important playoff game the Dolphins have been a part of in decades lol
     
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    Probably when he discovered that 9/11 was faked.
     
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    That sounds more likely. From what I can glean, something that Richard may have done might have ticked off Carroll. But in the end, whatever it was, either Carroll got over it or he and Richard worked through it, because I can't see how Grier makes him our top choice without Pete Carroll's endorsement. I'm comfortable with the guy, because whatever the problem was, he addressed it somehow and won Carroll back over. Still …. I'd like to know what really happened.
     
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    I had browsed Seahawks forums and I came back with nothing. It seems like there was smoke there but nobody can figure it out. It is strange but a few things I heard were...
    - Carroll felt like he blitzed to much (which he didnt). Not Pete's style and Richard seemed to accept that

    - they felt his players coach mentality made him an easy target for Sherman and the other outspoken players. This worsened as it became clear the defense grew tire of Carroll's message and coaching

    - The other side is Richard had actually been to close with the players and sided with them against Carroll as the defense slipped

    - most think he was capegoated for Carroll to save face by "changing the guard". Although the defense was not the dominant force due to injuries and tougher focus on, Richard was seen as the fall guy and removed from his position so Carroll could bring in someone else to fix it.

    - With all that said he was well liked by fans and players. They all felt like he would succeed without the LOB. Most did feel as though he would end up a head coach one day.

    Whatever happened with Carroll must have stemmed from a philosophy standpoint. Watching the cowboys he does seem to be a very aggressive coach with blitzes. But I think Carroll's stubborn ways ran him out
     
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    I’m not worried about the Cowboys retaining Richard. They invited Ross to attend and Garrett is The Big Boss’ Boy.

    The question is whether they recognize him as the best candidate.
    I’m rooting for a Dallas loss and Pats win this weekend. It can’t hurt.
    I don’t see how Flores is qualified. He is a positional coach at best.
     
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    I find it interesting that all of the discussion re the coaching prospects centers around Kris Richard and Brian Flores. New Orleans Defensive Coordinator, Dennis Allen was also interviewed by the Dolphins (and immediately dismissed as a candidate based on his abysmal win record when he held the Head Coaching role at Oakland). What people are not looking at is the terrific improvement in the Saints Defense this season. In fact the improvement in the Saints Defense is probably the biggest reason why the Saints finished the season on top in the NFC. Believe it or not, Allen probably has better credentials for the job than Brian Flores.
    I still think that Kris Richard is the best candidate but the one people are not looking at may be Dennis Allen.
     

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