AJ is indeed improving

[adamprez2003]

It's true that I like what I've seen from Feeley but my evaluation of his being counted on to be the starter has more to do with having watched Frerotte who has never impressed me as anything other than a decent backup. Frerotte is acceptable if he has to play a couple of games but if he is our starter we are i9n alot of trouble

 

[TeeMoney]

Bottom line is that the people who get paid to evaluate talent believe Feeley has the chance to become a quality starter

Other than Spielman, whom have you read that have said this about Feeley? Anyone? Are you just assuming their support by their silence?

 

[Dudeman]

Bottom line regarding Feeley's worth is that when we made the trade for him noone in football operations (ie scouts, gms, personnel people) thought we got ripped off.
Bottom line is that the people who get paid to evaluate talent believe Feeley has the chance to become a quality starter

wait a second.....you do realize that you're talking about Rick Spielman here.....the same guy who is no longer with the franchise?

yeah, he didnt think we got ripped off, because he was the one who made the trade. He also wasted a 4th to move up for Carey, but still didnt think we got ripped off.

Jesus, some of you are very hard to take seriously when all you do is try to defend AJ every opportunity you get, yet REFUSE to look at it from the opposite perspective.

Saban also said that Gus has an advantage because he knows the system. Believe what you want, you have the right to, but to pretend that Gus has no chance of becoming the starter is ignorant just because you want to put all of your undying support behind AJ. Just dont be suprised that come September 11th, that Gus may very well be starting behind center.

 

[Megatron]

wait a second.....you do realize that you're talking about Rick Spielman here.....the same guy who is no longer with the franchise?

yeah, he didnt think we got ripped off, because he was the one who made the trade. He also wasted a 4th to move up for Carey, but still didnt think we got ripped off.

Jesus, some of you are very hard to take seriously when all you do is try to defend AJ every opportunity you get, yet REFUSE to look at it from the opposite perspective.

Saban also said that Gus has an advantage because he knows the system. Believe what you want, you have the right to, but to pretend that Gus has no chance of becoming the starter is ignorant just because you want to put all of your undying support behind AJ. Just dont be suprised that come September 11th, that Gus may very well be starting behind center.

I can't believe that we are in the position to have a carreer backup leading our team again. Uh Gus sucks.

 

[adamprez2003]

Also I agree that Feeley is not "guaranteed" anything and I too want the best QB to start whether its Frerotte or Feeley. I am simply stating my impressions of what will play out in training camp. As for everyone having an equal shot that is what you would expect a coach to say in our situation.

Saban, like anybody else in his position, is going to have an idea of who he wants to start and he's going to let training camp play out to either reenforce his view or change it.

I just don't believe he would have gone into the season thinking that Frerotte was going to be his starter.

 

[Dudeman]

It's true that I like what I've seen from Feeley but my evaluation of his being counted on to be the starter has more to do with having watched Frerotte who has never impressed me as anything other than a decent backup. Frerotte is acceptable if he has to play a couple of games but if he is our starter we are i9n alot of trouble

once again, your comment makes no sense....if Frerotte is the better QB judged by both Saban and Linehan, wouldn't we be in more trouble if AJ was starting? YES!

Its absolutely ridiculous that some of you dont necessarily want the best QB to start. I can't believe that if Gus proves that he's the best QB to lead this team in both training camp and preseason that you'd still want Feeley to start. Thank god none of us are making the decision, because we'd potentially be throwing an arena league team out there.

Saban said he will play the best players, and if its Gus, then AJ will be riding pine.

its funny that you, a non-talent evaluator believe that Gus has shown nothing to impress you.

Other than his pro-bowl appearance, apparently you forgot to look at his stats from 2003 playing in this very system.

 

[CrunchTime]

I am reserving judgement on AJ.I was enthusiastic at first but I didnt see enough progress for my taste particulalry at the end of games where he seemed to tail off (Except for the Pats game).You want your QB to rise to greater heights when the game is on the line not the other way around.However there were mitigating circumstances which merit another opportunity for AJ.

Since AJ has a reputation for being a bad practice playes and Gus knows the system I would think the advantage goes to Gus.

 

[adamprez2003]

wait a second.....you do realize that you're talking about Rick Spielman here.....the same guy who is no longer with the franchise?

yeah, he didnt think we got ripped off, because he was the one who made the trade. He also wasted a 4th to move up for Carey, but still didnt think we got ripped off.

Jesus, some of you are very hard to take seriously when all you do is try to defend AJ every opportunity you get, yet REFUSE to look at it from the opposite perspective.

Saban also said that Gus has an advantage because he knows the system. Believe what you want, you have the right to, but to pretend that Gus has no chance of becoming the starter is ignorant just because you want to put all of your undying support behind AJ. Just dont be suprised that come September 11th, that Gus may very well be starting behind center.

I am not talking about our personnel people I am talking about the people in the NFL on other teams. The consensus among the personnel people of the NFL at the time was that Feeley was the best young prospect available.

 

[TeeMoney]

I just don't believe he would have gone into the season thinking that Frerotte was going to be his starter.

He didn't do this. He went into training camp with an open competition at QB that currently has Frerotte leading the battle. You have made numerous attempts at supporting Feeley with faulty assumptions of other GM's and Scouts supporting your opinion... excuse me if I don't put much stock in what you say.

 

[TeeMoney]

The consensus among the personnel people of the NFL at the time was that Feeley was the best young prospect available.

When, exactly, did these people get together to decide this??? Can you tell us when they are meeting this year? This is bullsh*t

 

[TeeMoney]

I can't believe that we are in the position to have a carreer backup leading our team again. Uh Gus sucks.

I guess it's people like you that would like for Miami to be in the position to pick up Leinart in next years draft. You know what that would entail.

 

[adamprez2003]

Other than Spielman, whom have you read that have said this about Feeley? Anyone? Are you just assuming their support by their silence?

I am not about to search the web for quotes from two years ago. I am assuming that you have been following football for more than one year and if you have you will remember that Feeley was considered the best young prospect available.

 

[in2itive-finfan]

I am wondering if AJ will get the chance to play enough so that the game can 'slowdown' for him... The number of games he has played in his complete career makes me wonder how long it will take for him to become comfortable.

He might surprise a lot of people.

 

[Dudeman]

I am not talking about our personnel people I am talking about the people in the NFL on other teams. The consensus among the personnel people of the NFL at the time was that Feeley was the best young prospect available.

though I seriously doubt those claims because I've never seen them in writing annointing him as the best young prospect, answer this.

Andy Reid and Brad Childress drafted Feeley in 2001 in the fifth round. They drafted him to be a backup to McNabb. They may have said nice things about AJ, but how often do comments made by other coaches turn into wins by the Miami Dolphins? Answer: NEVER!

People have to prove it out on the field, and if the can't, they sit on the bench.

I think the problem with a lot of these Feeley supporters is that they believe that because Rick gave up a first day pick, that AJ HAS to be the starter to make the trade acceptable. Well, Rick is no longer here, and it wouldn't have mattered if we gave up a first....if he's not good enough, he doesn't play.

Look at how many QBs were taken in the first few picks in 99. How many are out of the league? Face it, the bears, bengals, and browns were screwed, but they've moved on. They didn't just keep these guys on the roster just because they were high picks.

Trying to argue that Feeley should start because he didn't get much time last year, or that he's younger is futile. From now on in Sabanland, the best players will start, and if its Gus, then he'll start, if its AJ or Sage, ditto

 

[adamprez2003]

once again, your comment makes no sense....if Frerotte is the better QB judged by both Saban and Linehan, wouldn't we be in more trouble if AJ was starting? YES!

Its absolutely ridiculous that some of you dont necessarily want the best QB to start. I can't believe that if Gus proves that he's the best QB to lead this team in both training camp and preseason that you'd still want Feeley to start. Thank god none of us are making the decision, because we'd potentially be throwing an arena league team out there.

Saban said he will play the best players, and if its Gus, then AJ will be riding pine.

its funny that you, a non-talent evaluator believe that Gus has shown nothing to impress you.

Other than his pro-bowl appearance, apparently you forgot to look at his stats from 2003 playing in this very system.

Clearly if Frerotte beats out Feeley its better to have him start. That does not mean that that is a good thing. What I am saying is that if Frerotte starts we are in trouble. He is a backup. Feeley's status is still open. People still believe he has the chance to develop into a good quality starter.