An Excellent Article that Gives Insight Into Tanneyhills Troubles and D's Problems

[phins_4_ever]

Well 1) That looks to be a designed quick slant to Hartline. 2) That's Lamar Miller. 3) Hartline drops the ball. That simple. 4) Look at the LB flying in. If Ryan looks to his right to make a read and possibly throw it to Miller he is getting lit up and then we complain that he took a sack.

Actually I would think that this play is supposed to go against the pass rush. Miller bypasses the rush and becomes the hot receiver. I mentioned that last year and this year that Tannehill is not good at it. Last year he took the sack and this year he is going to the covered receiver. Brady used to make a living with this play.
If you look at Miller you see him turning immediately towards the QB as soon as he passes the rusher. Hartline is the outlet if Miller and the rusher tangle up or are engaged. In that case Tannehill would have the time to target Hartline over the middle. If you look at Hartline's run you see him briefly separating when he turns up field just as the pass arrives. If Tannehill would have played it right then Lamar would have gotten the ball. If Lamar and the rusher get tangled up or are engaged Tannehill has that additional second to let Hartline go up the field. The pass then should have been dropped between the DB and the safety.

The progression should have been:
a) Lamar
b) Brian
c) throw away or run.

 

[hoops]

Knowing Lamar miller he would have either dropped it or taken a direct route to that converging deep safety...again though correct decision

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Actually I would think that this play is supposed to go against the pass rush. Miller bypasses the rush and becomes the hot receiver. I mentioned that last year and this year that Tannehill is not good at it. Last year he took the sack and this year he is going to the covered receiver. Brady used to make a living with this play.
If you look at Miller you see him turning immediately towards the QB as soon as he passes the rusher. Hartline is the outlet if Miller and the rusher tangle up or are engaged. In that case Tannehill would have the time to target Hartline over the middle. If you look at Hartline's run you see him briefly separating when he turns up field just as the pass arrives. If Tannehill would have played it right then Lamar would have gotten the ball. If Lamar and the rusher get tangled up or are engaged Tannehill has that additional second to let Hartline go up the field. The pass then should have been dropped between the DB and the safety.

The progression should have been:
a) Lamar
b) Brian
c) throw away or run.

Ha ha and this guy calls me not credible...

 

[doughbraz54]

Actually I would think that this play is supposed to go against the pass rush. Miller bypasses the rush and becomes the hot receiver. I mentioned that last year and this year that Tannehill is not good at it. Last year he took the sack and this year he is going to the covered receiver. Brady used to make a living with this play.
If you look at Miller you see him turning immediately towards the QB as soon as he passes the rusher. Hartline is the outlet if Miller and the rusher tangle up or are engaged. In that case Tannehill would have the time to target Hartline over the middle. If you look at Hartline's run you see him briefly separating when he turns up field just as the pass arrives. If Tannehill would have played it right then Lamar would have gotten the ball. If Lamar and the rusher get tangled up or are engaged Tannehill has that additional second to let Hartline go up the field. The pass then should have been dropped between the DB and the safety.

The progression should have been:
a) Lamar
b) Brian
c) throw away or run.

Hartline catches that for a first this isn't even being talked about. But since Hartline dropped it everyone is claiming Tannehill screwed up yet again. Hartline may be covered but if he catches that ball he is picking up a decent chunk and the first.

 

[NBP81]

Actually I would think that this play is supposed to go against the pass rush. Miller bypasses the rush and becomes the hot receiver. I mentioned that last year and this year that Tannehill is not good at it. Last year he took the sack and this year he is going to the covered receiver. Brady used to make a living with this play.
If you look at Miller you see him turning immediately towards the QB as soon as he passes the rusher. Hartline is the outlet if Miller and the rusher tangle up or are engaged. In that case Tannehill would have the time to target Hartline over the middle. If you look at Hartline's run you see him briefly separating when he turns up field just as the pass arrives. If Tannehill would have played it right then Lamar would have gotten the ball. If Lamar and the rusher get tangled up or are engaged Tannehill has that additional second to let Hartline go up the field. The pass then should have been dropped between the DB and the safety.

The progression should have been:
a) Lamar
b) Brian
c) throw away or run.

Just by the way Tannehill immediately turns to Hartline and snap throws it, its pretty clear who the first option is. Whatever the case may be, no one knows for sure Ill give you that. Whats a fact though is that was a perfect throw to Hartline for a 1st down and he dropped it....

 

[hoops]

No one knows for sure huh...a quick slant becomes a scramble damn drill vs blitz pressure you can't account for if you wait on it...progression wise there who really thinks the back is in front of the quick damn slant...hot route the back would turn and present his numbers to the qb...miller keeps flowing down the seam...it is the absolute correct read and decision by the qb...

And it's not a hard one...but whatever you guys have at it

 

[phins_4_ever]

Knowing Lamar miller he would have either dropped it or taken a direct route to that converging deep safety...again though correct decision

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Ha ha and this guy calls me not credible...

You are not. Miller is the hot read. You can't even look at a simple video.
This is a very common and usually safe play against the blitz.

We can argue to no end if Hartline should have caught or not. In my opinion he was not ready plus had a DB on his back. And to assume that Tannehill may have made the right decision because Miller would not have caught the ball...well..we really don't know that.

I am surprised that with all your expertise you can not correctly identify the the play. It is so obvious. If Hartline would have been the first read why would Miller let the rusher go untouched? There was not even an attempt to block. Maybe you should send this video to your 'sources' let them analyze it and then come back.

 

[NBP81]

You are not. Miller is the hot read. You can't even look at a simple video.
This is a very common and usually safe play against the blitz.

We can argue to no end if Hartline should have caught or not. In my opinion he was not ready plus had a DB on his back. And to assume that Tannehill may have made the right decision because Miller would not have caught the ball...well..we really don't know that.

I am surprised that with all your expertise you can not correctly identify the the play. It is so obvious. If Hartline would have been the first read why would Miller let the rusher go untouched? There was not even an attempt to block. Maybe you should send this video to your 'sources' let them analyze it and then come back.

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Tannehill's first option. That does not mean it was the correct one or the design of the play. The video supports that Miller was the first option.

Hartline wasnt ready for the pass??? WTF!

 

[hoops]

You are not. Miller is the hot read. You can't even look at a simple video.
This is a very common and usually safe play against the blitz.

We can argue to no end if Hartline should have caught or not. In my opinion he was not ready plus had a DB on his back. And to assume that Tannehill may have made the right decision because Miller would not have caught the ball...well..we really don't know that.

I am surprised that with all your expertise you can not correctly identify the the play. It is so obvious. If Hartline would have been the first read why would Miller let the rusher go untouched? There was not even an attempt to block. Maybe you should send this video to your 'sources' let them analyze it and then come back.

Your so lost it's hilarious...ha ha...spend some of that 13k to learn the game...you need it

 

[roy_miami]

That type of play is the reason I'll never give PFF rankings any credibility. Only the coaches know for sure what should have happened. Its possible Miller completely ****ed and and should have blocked the blitzer. Its possible the play was ran correctly. And its possible Tannehill ****ed up and was supposed to go to Miller first. How in the hell can somebody grade that properly?

 

[hoops]

:sidelol:

And roys lost too I see

 

[phins_4_ever]

Hartline wasnt ready for the pass??? WTF!

If a receiver runs a certain route there is a time when he is not ready. If you send Wallace down the field he is not ready for the pass after 10 yards. His focus is going downfield. Just because is throwing a ball at a receiver whenever he feels like it doesn't make the receiver ready for it. This is not sandlot football. Routes are designed for a reason and with purpose.

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Just by the way Tannehill immediately turns to Hartline and snap throws it, its pretty clear who the first option is. Whatever the case may be, no one knows for sure Ill give you that. Whats a fact though is that was a perfect throw to Hartline for a 1st down and he dropped it....

Tannehill's first option. That does not mean it was the correct one or the design of the play. The video supports that Miller was the first option.

 

[hoops]

Not ready...god dang your killing me...wr not ready wins to the inside a quick slant...a route where the ball comes out quick after the in cut...wow...

My side hurts...ha ha no wonder you back ck

 

[Vaark]

^ tannehennes career

Interesting.. Wallace signing announced, 3/12/13, "Wallace17Miami" joined FH 3/12/13. Are you even a Dolphins fan? It would appear that you're just a traveling Wallace fanboi pissed off over the mutual lack of a connection between Tannehill and the obvious object of your affection And on 3/11/13, were probably still "Wallace17Pburgh" !

 

[DolFan in NE]

If he throws to Miller on that play it probably gets batted down. If Miller hooks around to where the logo is I could see the complaining. Miller just kind of floats there so there would be no lane to get him the ball.

 

[roy_miami]

:sidelol:

And roys lost too I see

I am lost. I am terrible at X's and O's

But if Miller sees a free blitzer what good does having a second receiving option do? It seems like that would be a pretty terrible play design.