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Barry Jackson Gives a Critical Look at the Coaching Staff

jeff was upset the rookies didn't play more...other than dion jordan who we could have used more creatively to get snaps out of and it's on coyle that we didn't none of em deserved to play more...

just jeff trying to save his hide after another crappy draft...on top of everything else...

i have no idea why that oline coach is still in the building...

Same here, but when I look at the Texas A&M OL that he helped build, I wonder how much of it is him and how much of it is the complete garbage that Ireland gave him at the position.
 
Same here, but when I look at the Texas A&M OL that he helped build, I wonder how much of it is him and how much of it is the complete garbage that Ireland gave him at the position.

I believe it is combination of both.

One part of this that no one has really talked about was assistant offensive line coach Chris Mosley. Granted this is Turner's unit and he deserves the majority of the criticism, but I find it a little curious how the offensive line unit actually started playing better once they fired Mosley mid-season. With Mosley the first 8 games they averaged almost 5 sacks per game. Without him the final 8 games they averaged less than 3 sacks per game. A difference of 35 sacks the first 8 games against 23 the final 8.

Still, those numbers are bad whether Mosley was there of not, but I do think it should be something added to the conversation.
 
I dont care if he is subdued on the sidelines, belichick isnt running all over the field. But if he cant get respect or if he gets outcoached, regularly, he needs to go. I give him one more year to pick it up, but no playoffs means no job.
 
I disagree. It may very well be indicative of players looking for excuses rather than looking in the mirror. Lots of people don't respect their boss and it's not a lack of leadership it's a lack of quality followers. Be a man and bring your own fire and preparation. Losers grumble about their superiors to overshadow their own failures.

In your disagreement you've inadvertently made my point, as well as acknowledging what every leadership training course and what any good leader knows and can attest too. Respect is earned, not given. When operations are successful leadership appears easy and respect seems in abundance.

It's when they're not successful where we see the true measure of good leadership and real respect. If it is true that this team does not respect it's coaching, it is losing that has exposed this truism. History is filled with losers who have failed even with good leadership and who turn their frustrations onto themselves by taking responsibility and circling the wagons. That's respect.

History is also filled with losers who have failed because of poor leadership and who point fingers at each other and their leaders. That's disrespect.

Successful institutions know the difference and build their foundation beginning with strong, effective leadership.

Furthermore, bringing your own fire and preparation is the responsibility of the individual in individual operations. When team operations are involved, the fire and preparation of the individual has to be supported and supplemented by the team leader(s). This is precisely the nature of team operations, because with out this we simply have a non-cohesive group of individuals.
 
This is the most alarming thing I have read about the Fins all year, worse than the go/go-go thing, even.
 
Aside from coordinators, nine of the 12 coaches that Philbin has hired had never worked in the NFL.

That's just peachy.

One thing, besides the entire Martin/Incognito fiasco which happened right under Turner's nose, which bothered me early was that whole tipped ball thing. Turner came to the defense of his line immediately, saying it's not their fault at all and he's not changing anything. Then, of course, changes were made and the problem went away. But this is a symptom not just of poor coaching, but having an inexperienced or weak QB, who can't direct the line himself, or have any influence. The fact that a critical position like QB coach was filled with Sherman's relative, was alarming.

As for Philbin, a lot of players like him personally. What you don’t hear are words such as "innovative" or "dynamic leader."

Personally, I have to say I was fooled. I heard that press conference and thought he would be a teaching coach, at the very least, and we'd get good fundamentals. As soon as he was hired I googled everything I could to "hear" what Green Bay coaches were saying about him, and what struck me was exactly what this article said...not necessarily anything negative, but a lack of words which were superlative. There was a lot about him being "deserving" because he put in his time, and he was loyal, but nobody was scared he was leaving. Still, I thought, well, there's something to be said for fundamentals, and teaching, and we'll have that. But clearly, there was none of that. Not a lot of improvement from Tannehill, and they didn't do much with the other draft picks. Martin was an acquisition in a key position, especially after Long left, and that guy should have been on every coach's radar and coached up by everybody. Instead, when he melted down, everyone, including Tanny and Philbin, said they didn't have a clue.
 
Being fiery doesn't necessarily translate to player passion. And Tom Landry got fire out of his players without going all Mike Ditka on them. The Ravens had a near mutiny on their coaches last year and won the Superbowl. Players need to look in the mirror.

Good points!

I'm not sure there is really anything new here. Philbin is taking some heat and criticism and should based on our year end performance. And it is no surprise that he isn't a supreme motivator or animated on the sidelines.....that has been the case since day one. Tomorrow, there will be an article by someone about how Philbin is a solid coach and well respected and this cycle will start all over again.

Who knows what reality is. There are no specific players mentioned and in some cases we are talking about "associates" of players. Until players actually back these comments, I file it with every other media story about the Phins....about 50% BS, opinion and speculation and a kernel of fact here and there.
 
One player complained that teams take on the personality of their coach and said because Philbin is flat and unemotional, the team too often plays like that. That has become a serious concern, but it goes beyond Philbin’s lack of motivational skills. Another said his personality better fits a coordinator.

“Players don’t see him as a really good X’s and O’s guy,” said one of the players’ close associates. “He’s just an organizational guy who’s on top of the scheduling and planning.”

Read more here: http://miamiherald.typepad.com/sports-buzz/#storylink=cpy

All I need to read. We're never winning a single thing with this guy as head coach.
 
So an associate of a player speaks for all Miami Dolphins? Lol


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I like some things about Joe Philbin, and I don't mind that he isn't micromanaging his coordinators.

Things I like:

1. Not paleoconservative about football the way some coaches are (i.e. will give players Thursdays off because he finds the players have better energy levels for games).
2. Using GPS capture to monitor practices to capture data on trends for team and player movement and similar things. I think this stuff is underrated.
3. Lets the coaches under him do their jobs. I actually think this is a positive, and I guarantee you it's the reason we landed Bill Lazor over the Lions. Joe lets his coordinators do their jobs.
4. Understands how to use timeouts and typically does a much better job with his timeouts than most coaches.


Things I don't like:

1. Doesn't believe it's his job to motivate the players. I agree with him that it's silly that he should have to do that, but he does have to do that.
2. The notecard thing. Dawn Aponte should not be telling you what to say, coach.
3. Got very conservative about going for it on 4th and short in opposing territory this year, which bothered me.
4. Picked bad coaches.


So while I think we could do worse, I think Joe's biggest problem is that his management style (which I think is good) of hands-off macromanagement is not a good fit when he's hired bad coordinators or inexperienced/unqualified position coaches.

This is why I desperately wanted Gary Kubiak to be the new Dolphins OC. Bill Lazor is someone who looks good on paper and he has some very strong endorsements from some very, very, very good coaches, but we simply can't afford for him to be bad or even marginal as a coordinator. Because Joe isn't going to get in there and hash it out with him.
 
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