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Barry Jackson: Plenty Of Dolphins Veterans On The Roster Bubble

Rashad, due to his contract, is basically uncuttable/untradeable without taking a monetary beating, and I don't see any reason for getting rid of TJ. He may not be an elite cover guy, but he is versatile.
Basically, both Reshad Jones and TJ McDonald are untradeable/uncuttable because of their contracts … but the Dolphins have looked at trying to move either or both of them before the draft, so I'm surprised they weren't listed. In the past the Dolphins have done similarly illogical things as cut one of those guys despite it creating a ton of dead cap. But as you point out … there is no option to recoup the money if they go. Perhaps Grier isn't so eager to create dead cap as Tannenbaum was.
 
Basically, both Reshad Jones and TJ McDonald are untradeable/uncuttable because of their contracts … but the Dolphins have looked at trying to move either or both of them before the draft, so I'm surprised they weren't listed. In the past the Dolphins have done similarly illogical things as cut one of those guys despite it creating a ton of dead cap. But as you point out … there is no option to recoup the money if they go. Perhaps Grier isn't so eager to create dead cap as Tannenbaum was.
With approximately $100M plus in cap space for 2020 and minimal dead money, I believe Grier sees an opportunity to rid himself of all the dead weight in the offseason, without hurting the cap as much as the dead cap is hurting in 2019. Jones, Alonso, Stills, Parker and McDonald all can be cap casualties in the 2020 offseason. I think they may be holding off until then. With the exception of Kiko Alonso.
 
With approximately $100M plus in cap space for 2020 and minimal dead money, I believe Grier sees an opportunity to rid himself of all the dead weight in the offseason, without hurting the cap as much as the dead cap is hurting in 2019. Jones, Alonso, Stills, Parker and McDonald all can be cap casualties in the 2020 offseason. I think they may be holding off until then. With the exception of Kiko Alonso.
I agree. I'm not sure how we're moving forward with Kiko, but I think that's right with Jones and McDonald. It seems Parker is on a bit of a Prove-It deal, and if he gets injured and misses time again, his future is not long in Miami I'm afraid.
 
I agree. I'm not sure how we're moving forward with Kiko, but I think that's right with Jones and McDonald. It seems Parker is on a bit of a Prove-It deal, and if he gets injured and misses time again, his future is not long in Miami I'm afraid.
The savings alone, in 2020, from those players, is large enough to bring in 2 max contract Offensive Linemen. if Miami chooses to go that route. Did anyone say, Jack Conklin?
 
The savings alone, in 2020, from those players, is large enough to bring in 2 max contract Offensive Linemen. if Miami chooses to go that route. Did anyone say, Jack Conklin?
Yeah, those cap savings just seem too hard to ignore to me too. I know they had hopes of trading Jones … but there were no takers. Best ride it out now and part ways in 2020.

As for Conklin, I'm a fan. But, I see this team investing heavily in draft picks and filling out the OL through the draft.

The Patriot system is ingeniously constructed to obtain a good OL.

First, they target guys with a low ceiling and high floor, that way they know exactly what they're getting, but if the player is good, he'll never have those top-shelf tools to command a crazy number in free agency, so they keep their OL for a decade rather than only 5 years.

Second they churn through OL like nobody's business. They get a quick look at as many guys as they can, hunting for those overlooked gems, so they see more OL, cut more OL, and acquire more OL than most teams. They'll give any formerly highly rated OL a look, and they'll look at cuts constantly, regardless of need.

Third, they draft them in all rounds, but they put a large amount in the mid to lower rounds by trading back to acquire more of those picks. It facilitates the churn process kinda like buying more scratcher tickets … because they're not drafting the elite prospects in the PowerBall, they're looking for a few good scratchers.

Fourth, they prioritize the best OL coaching they can get and then draft guys who follow directions well and can be consistently precise carrying out their assignment. Sure, there will be times when they're physically overmatched, but this system is about never being mentally overmatched.

Fifth, they bring in guys who are good technicians, knee benders, hand placement, etc., rather than guys with awe-inspiring athletics like foot quickness and length.

Sixth, they look for more jack-of-all-trades types rather than specialists most of the time. They want guys who can run block, as this offense's bread and butter is running against defenses stacked against the pass. It forces defenses to play more base and opens up the passing game. The run numbers tend to be inflated, but without OL who can blow open holes against those skinny-fast pass defenders, it doesn't work. If defenses insist on stopping the pass, these more physical OL will wear down that defense and dominate the 4th quarter, so we look for guys who can do a bit of both, not just dominate in pass protection.

Seventh, they look for guys who are durable, so when they do find a good player he's not wasting salary cap on the training table. They want low-ceiling guys to keep the price of the OL down and the chemistry high, but they want them healthy.​

All in all, it's ingenious, because they're getting a solid OL that facilitates the offense with reliability and consistency across games and years. It's kinda the polar opposite of the Dolphins approach of taking a flier on every high-potential but lazy or raw player they can find.
 
Yeah, those cap savings just seem too hard to ignore to me too. I know they had hopes of trading Jones … but there were no takers. Best ride it out now and part ways in 2020.

As for Conklin, I'm a fan. But, I see this team investing heavily in draft picks and filling out the OL through the draft.

The Patriot system is ingeniously constructed to obtain a good OL.

First, they target guys with a low ceiling and high floor, that way they know exactly what they're getting, but if the player is good, he'll never have those top-shelf tools to command a crazy number in free agency, so they keep their OL for a decade rather than only 5 years.

Second they churn through OL like nobody's business. They get a quick look at as many guys as they can, hunting for those overlooked gems, so they see more OL, cut more OL, and acquire more OL than most teams. They'll give any formerly highly rated OL a look, and they'll look at cuts constantly, regardless of need.

Third, they draft them in all rounds, but they put a large amount in the mid to lower rounds by trading back to acquire more of those picks. It facilitates the churn process kinda like buying more scratcher tickets … because they're not drafting the elite prospects in the PowerBall, they're looking for a few good scratchers.

Fourth, they prioritize the best OL coaching they can get and then draft guys who follow directions well and can be consistently precise carrying out their assignment. Sure, there will be times when they're physically overmatched, but this system is about never being mentally overmatched.

Fifth, they bring in guys who are good technicians, knee benders, hand placement, etc., rather than guys with awe-inspiring athletics like foot quickness and length.

Sixth, they look for more jack-of-all-trades types rather than specialists most of the time. They want guys who can run block, as this offense's bread and butter is running against defenses stacked against the pass. It forces defenses to play more base and opens up the passing game. The run numbers tend to be inflated, but without OL who can blow open holes against those skinny-fast pass defenders, it doesn't work. If defenses insist on stopping the pass, these more physical OL will wear down that defense and dominate the 4th quarter, so we look for guys who can do a bit of both, not just dominate in pass protection.

Seventh, they look for guys who are durable, so when they do find a good player he's not wasting salary cap on the training table. They want low-ceiling guys to keep the price of the OL down and the chemistry high, but they want them healthy.​

All in all, it's ingenious, because they're getting a solid OL that facilitates the offense with reliability and consistency across games and years. It's kinda the polar opposite of the Dolphins approach of taking a flier on every high-potential but lazy or raw player they can find.
Well said. I agree, the Patriots way has found its way to Miami. I know how they like to look for mid round OLinemen and teach them their ways. It's a great concept. They continue to be a top pass protection Offensive Line and run on you when a defense gears for the pass. Everything you've mentioned is now in Miami. I just hope Dieter and Calhoun make huge strides moving forward to solidify the line.
 
Well said. I agree, the Patriots way has found its way to Miami. I know how they like to look for mid round OLinemen and teach them their ways. It's a great concept. They continue to be a top pass protection Offensive Line and run on you when a defense gears for the pass. Everything you've mentioned is now in Miami. I just hope Dieter and Calhoun make huge strides moving forward to solidify the line.
I have a lot of hope for Deiter. He holds the ironman record at Wisconsin (O-Line U) and was one of the Big 10's best for a few years now. He is good at everything, doesn't get injured, doesn't draw many flags … but he doesn't have such extreme measuables as to be hard to re-sign like Pouncey or James.

Shaq is kinda the opposite. He's a guy who came in as a poor run defender but an exceptional pass protector. Now that he's facing pros, his pass protection flaws have really been exposed, but I have faith he'll learn to become a solid pass protector in time. The problem is that he's simply not a good run defender, so for me, Shaq Calhoun is a guy who is destined to be a backup, despite getting lots of snaps in our 2019 rebuilding year.
 
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