Breaking News: Mike Pouncey not likely to be punished by the NFL

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Its also important to note that Maurkice just landed a 5 year, $44 million extension(no guaranteed money, shrewd on their part). Even if he didnt think he was the better center(which he does) and more durable(that i could give him), he will want a bigger contract for dick measuring reasons alone. When we picked up Pouncey's 5th year option it came with a $7.4 million salary. Pouncey has since spoken out and said he feels hes outplayed that. Is it really so unthinkable that he asks for $2 million and change more?

Ive been getting a kick out of those have been defending Pouncey's honor tooth and nail but also have stated they support getting rid of him next offseason. What in the hell is the difference? Pouncey is going to miss at the very least 5 games this year(im not going to be surprised if that number "shockingly" increases). He will miss the full training camp regimen while rehabbing his injury(if he isnt drunk), he wont have any first hand experience with our new offense, he wont have any first hand experience with our new blocking schemes, he wont have any first hand experience with our entirely new line, and he knows he will be rewarded with cash if he drags his feet during his recovery while the line struggles.
Meanwhile, if we get rid of him we stand to gain both tangible(draft picks, cap room) and intangible(kicking a corrosive element out of the locker room, message sent to the players the bull**** isnt tolerated) benefits.

Are those 10 or 11 games really worth it? For all the boasting about his All Pro(!!!!!) talent, our line is going to suck anyways. We are potentially starting 2 rookies, a second year player who hasnt shown much, and a veteran who rarely plays all 16 games. Tannehill is getting hit all season long. As we've seen in years past and as its been pointed out repeatedly: Pouncey isnt going to be providing all that many solutions. But he is going to be "providing" problems.

And people are vehemently fighting for this headcase interior lineman. This forum never ceases to amaze.

If Garner plays center like he did last year, Pouncey may not have any leverage

 

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Before April 25th, 2013, Dan Carpenter was considered a great kicker on this forum. Oh sure, he had a bad year and hes a bit overpaid, but hes fine. Hes come through for us so much. And...etc, etc, etc. Others(myself included) pointed out he had problems for years. Vehement outrage would greet us. Of course, the minute we drafted Celeb Sturgis..."lolololol Carpenter sucks lololol".

And there were those on this forum who felt the scumbags who helped Sandusky commit his crimes should not only remain free but keep their jobs.

Seeing people defend a great player after he ****ed a teenager would hardly be surprising. I can already see the posts: "Shes making a money grab", "she shouldnt have been at the club", "her generation has lost its way".

Dan carpenter has nothing to do with my comment
I never saw anything about people helping Sandusky commit his crimes.
Nobody here supports statutory rape. Sorry your wrong.

 

[Spesh]

Dan carpenter has nothing to do with my comment
I never saw anything about people helping Sandusky commit his crimes.
Nobody here supports statutory rape. Sorry your wrong.

If you know someone is raping people and you withhold evidence from the authorities because "coach talked you into handling this in a 'humane' way" then you are helping the criminal rape people. Period. End of story.

And your right, you never mentioned Dan Carpenter. I did and you copy and pasted what i wrote and asked what i meant. So, you know, i took that as you asking what i meant by Dan Carpenter.
I was asking you to extrapolate. If people are willing to vehemently defend someone who is bad at their job, what do you think the likely response will be when it comes to someone who is great at their job?

 

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If Garner plays center like he did last year, Pouncey may not have any leverage

Garner sucks. He is not a viable long term replacement at center.

 

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Garner sucks. He is not a viable long term replacement at center.

I understand, my point is that if the team can get adequate play from someone else, he loses leverage and they will see they don't need to pay $10 million a year for Pouncey. I was responding to Spesh's idea that Pouncey will try to use the line's struggles to get his big payday.

 

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If you know someone is raping people and you withhold evidence from the authorities because "coach talked you into handling this in a 'humane' way" then you are helping the criminal rape people. Period. End of story.

And your right, you never mentioned Dan Carpenter. I did and you copy and pasted what i wrote and asked what i meant. So, you know, i took that as you asking what i meant by Dan Carpenter.
I was asking you to extrapolate. If people are willing to vehemently defend someone who is bad at their job, what do you think the likely response will be when it comes to someone who is great at their job?

You made it sound like someone physically helping Sandusky commit his crimes, and I understand the cover up aspect of the crime.
But still nobody here supports statutory rape.

You responded to my reply to walrus about people on this site supporting rape, and you brought up Dan Carpenter. You put Sandusky and Carpenter in as your reference to statutory rape. That's why I was asking about Dan.

 

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speaking of money grabs when's the jon martin one coming??? i bet if he fails in san fran and is out of the league soon it will be imminent

 

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I understand, my point is that if the team can get adequate play from someone else, he loses leverage and they will see they don't need to pay $10 million a year for Pouncey. I was responding to Spesh's idea that Pouncey will try to use the line's struggles to get his big payday.

We wont be getting adequate play from Nate Garner for an entire season. I bet we could squeeze a few decent games out of him, but teams are gong to abuse him and you will eventually wish you had a thug like Pouncey in there.

 

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We wont be getting adequate play from Nate Garner for an entire season. I bet we could squeeze a few decent games out of him, but teams are gong to abuse him and you will eventually wish you had a thug like Pouncey in there.

It may not even be Garner, Smith took reps at center throughout the OTA's. Even so, whoever starts the season at center will probably only be needed for 4-5 games and my guess is that Pouncey will hurry back because they will be ok without him.

 

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As well he shouldn't be punished for it. But that doesn't mean we should resign him. I don't see a trade market for him since he's in the last year of his deal and he's going to want a big raise that, quite frankly since he's an interior offensive linemen that has trouble follow him around, he's not worth. Let him come back from the injury, play out this season and then let him walk.

This isn't some super talented diva wide receiver that we just have to "grin and bear it" with his off the field life style that begs trouble because his talent can't be replaced. This is a damn center people. We can find another one pretty easily and one that actually wants to be professional. We don't need to make the same mistake that the Steelers did with his brother and give him a big pay day.

But I guess I'm being negative just because I don't want ANOTHER embarassment for this franchise when his lifestyle catches up to him and to us.

Thanks for the great post.
Everyone is homering up on this worthless thug acting like he is a game changer!! He is a pretty good center that is too damn stupid to stay away from trouble.
Everyone knows Pouncey's house is a damn drug emporium, he is good friends with a serial killer (and still supports him). Pouncey always hung with Hernandez in college at the same club some football players shot aks into the air (Urban made it go away). The loser can't go a night without walking his sloppy shirtless bitch tits around a strip club or club. This guy has no aspirations of being the best he can be, he wants a paycheck and a party.
I know this is not uncommon in the NFL, there are a lot of thugs. But, if I am going to have a total dumb ass thug that I have to deal with give me Josh Gordon orAldon Smith, not an above average interior lineman

 

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It may not even be Garner, Smith took reps at center throughout the OTA's. Even so, whoever starts the season at center will probably only be needed for 4-5 games and my guess is that Pouncey will hurry back because they will be ok without him.

I'm just going to have to disagree there. After 4-5 games, all you people calling for the team to cut Pouncey will be begging for him to come back. In just the first few weeks, our backup center will be facing Vince Wilfork, Marcell Darius, and Dontari Poe.

 

[slk018]

I don't think you can put the overall ranking of the oline on one player. Even the center position.

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Lol, why do some dolphins fans like mediocre so much?

True,
Do you realize what positions have more value than others??
Average centers are fine, a great qb/ supporting cast on the line makes them great look at Jeff Saturday.
In case you are stuck in the dark ages here are the most important positions
QB, Pass rusher, CB, LT,
I would argue that Center is one of the least important positions on the field..

You don't need a great O line to win!
You think Denver, Seattle, New England etc have great O lines?

 

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heh, the oline is the most important part of an offense. that has been the case since the sport began, it will always be that way. unless they take them away and play flag football, and can't go after the qb after 3 Mississippi. I don't care how talented your skill positions are, without a competent oline, you got nothing.

The quarterback is the most important part of an offense, not the Oline

 

[slk018]

I'm glad the Dolphins don't have the panic button that you all are pushing.

They very well should! Do you remember winning a playoff game recently? hell how about making the playoffs? How about having a winning record!

 

[truedolfan57]

True,
Do you realize what positions have more value than others??
Average centers are fine, a great qb/ supporting cast on the line makes them great look at Jeff Saturday.
In case you are stuck in the dark ages here are the most important positions
QB, Pass rusher, CB, LT,
I would argue that Center is one of the least important positions on the field..

You don't need a great O line to win!
You think Denver, Seattle, New England etc have great O lines?

I think Denver and NE have very solid olines. seattle, I think a lot of their issue was the QB, who liked to scramble a lot.

The quarterback is the most important part of an offense, not the Oline

Depends on the schemes and system. There have been teams that have won playoff games and SB's with an average QB. You ask any QB in all levels of the sport, and they will tell you Oline is the most important part of the offense. sure, maybe one position on the oline isn't the most important single player on the offense, but if you start to have a bunch of average lineman on your team, your oline will not be very good. Pouncey and Albert are the only proven good/great players on the oline. get rid of pouncey, and you only have a Albert.