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Can't wait for Spielman to get fired already..........

Dbergan said:
Yeah, I read that as well. Of particular interest was Sabans comment that his "scouts" under Rick hit the nail on the head w/ regard to the LSU players that were under Saban. I think this alone has made Saban a believer that Ricks staff and system is a winner.
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You guys should've been listening to Goldie on WQAM tonight @ 9:20........He said Rick was sitting next to Saban at practice for the Senior Bowl, and he was ripping big time on Spielman......."Nick, listen to nothing this guy says!" You should've heard it.....Absolutely hilarious!
 
FINSTER said:
You guys should've been listening to Goldie on WQAM tonight @ 9:20........He said Rick was sitting next to Saban at practice for the Senior Bowl, and he was ripping big time on Spielman......."Nick, listen to nothing this guy says!" You should've heard it.....Absolutely hilarious!
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You mean Saban was ripping on Speilman? I didnt understand who was ripping on who?!?!
 
Dbergan said:
You mean Saban was ripping on Speilman? I didnt understand who was ripping on who?!?!
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Im pretty sure he meant the radio host was ripping Rick, not Saban.
 
Golberg is a fat unhappy man. Pay no attention to the sack of lard behind the curtain! :D
 
Again........I'm hoping you guys are right and I'm wrong.........but I'm sticking to my guns that he's around only becuase he's better than nothing. At this time, 3 months before the draft ..........there is just no one else available. But he won't be here next year............unless we have an amazing draft which of course is what I hope and pray is the case. So I'm pulling for all of you to be right and myself wrong............but I just don't have any confidence left in anybody that had a hand in any of the descisions of the last 4 yrs. Its just been such a frustrating few years. I refuse to get my hopes up becuase as soon as I do thats when this team likes to cut my legs off from out under me. Lets hope we hit Rock bottom and are in a upswing. I don't think many teams can match the success that the Pats have had........but I'd settle for just a chunk of it. 1 Title. 1 Superbowl in over 30 yrs...............is that too much to ask for!!?
 
This is a long thread for people to be picking back and forth at each other about Rick Spielman. To me Rick Spielman is a non-factor, if Saban keeps him then its because he sees some value in him, if he dumps him then he is just another member of the Wannstedt era swept out the door. IMHO Nick Saban will do the right thing either way and whatever he does will be for the betterment of the Miami Dolphins, in this decision I will trust Nick Saban to do the right and the smart thing for the Miami Dolphins.
 
St. Nick said:
Again........I'm hoping you guys are right and I'm wrong.........but I'm sticking to my guns that he's around only becuase he's better than nothing. At this time, 3 months before the draft ..........there is just no one else available. But he won't be here next year............unless we have an amazing draft which of course is what I hope and pray is the case. So I'm pulling for all of you to be right and myself wrong............but I just don't have any confidence left in anybody that had a hand in any of the descisions of the last 4 yrs. Its just been such a frustrating few years. I refuse to get my hopes up becuase as soon as I do thats when this team likes to cut my legs off from out under me. Lets hope we hit Rock bottom and are in a upswing. I don't think many teams can match the success that the Pats have had........but I'd settle for just a chunk of it. 1 Title. 1 Superbowl in over 30 yrs...............is that too much to ask for!!?
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If Saban thought of Spielman as simply "better than nothing", why on earth would he go out of his way to mention that he was very happy with the personnel department?
 
OneHondo said:
This is a long thread for people to be picking back and forth at each other about Rick Spielman. To me Rick Spielman is a non-factor, if Saban keeps him then its because he sees some value in him, if he dumps him then he is just another member of the Wannstedt era swept out the door. IMHO Nick Saban will do the right thing either way and whatever he does will be for the betterment of the Miami Dolphins, in this decision I will trust Nick Saban to do the right and the smart thing for the Miami Dolphins.
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Perhaps I dragged this out past it's optimal shelf life, but it irks me when someone is so intent on making Spielman a scapegoat of the Wanny error that he would put together some stats and say that Spielman had a 40% success rate with the draft. Only to find out that it is in actuallity above 50% and 92% of the players who didn't stick (read all but 1) were drafted in the 5th, 6th, and 7th round. And that doesn't even take into account the fact that Spielman did NOT have final say.

This quote from Saban only confirms my belief (however relevent they may be now that Saban has GM powers) that he is happy with Spielman. Why would Saban go out of his way to praise Spielman while thinking that he was "better than nothing"? Saban has shown nothing but honesty while he's been here. He has pointed out areas that need upgrading (as opposed to Wanny's I think <insert horrible player here> played well). Heck, he called out his QBs at LSU right out in the public for everyone to hear.

I also understand that being right or wrong about Spielman at this point is irrelevant. Either way we go regarding his staying or leaving, Nick Saban is running the show. That's what counts.

I'm arguing purely on principal.

That, and I'm enjoying this debate immensely. :D
 
phinphanphrommi said:
That, and I'm enjoying this debate immensely. :D
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Hey.......we Dolphin Fans deserve some enjoyment for a change right!!? :D

No seriously.......some excellent points were made here, But I still have a bad taste in my mouth from anything held over from the Wanny era...........


Let me ask you all this..........Wasn't it the team of Speilman and Wannastedt that Picked Rick Mirer as the QB for Chigago and burned that house down to the ground as well!? Are you saying that was all Wannastedts fault as well and Rick Speilman still choose to work again with Dave here?

Either Rick needs to accept some of the blame..........or he needs to make better decisions reguarding employers.
 
St. Nick said:
Hey.......we Dolphin Fans deserve some enjoyment for a change right!!? :D

No seriously.......some excellent points were made here, But I still have a bad taste in my mouth from anything held over from the Wanny era...........


Let me ask you all this..........Wasn't it the team of Speilman and Wannastedt that Picked Rick Mirer as the QB for Chigago and burned that house down to the ground as well!? Are you saying that was all Wannastedts fault as well and Rick Speilman still choose to work again with Dave here?

Either Rick needs to accept some of the blame..........or he needs to make better decisions reguarding employers.
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For someone who is advocating Rick's departure your credibility is not standing on a solid foundation of knowledge. Rick Mirer played 3 games for Chicago in 1997 after playing 4 years in Seattle. After his 3 game season in Chicago he went to the NY Jets.

Just remember Rick wanted Hasselbeck and Brees. Both times shotdown by none other than Dave Wannstedt.

And yes, I believe Rick being tied to Wanny has tarnished his image (for those looking for an excuse). But for those that can see between the lines, his image is fine. The guy does his homework extensively as proven in last years draft. Just give the guy a break and let's see what happens.
 
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