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Chilling Article from Salguero about the Incognito Golf Incident

Sorry I'm not willing to over look the fact she took money to keep quiet. That speaks volumes to me.

People acting like a pig while drunk is no excuse for cogs behavior, however it does explain it to me.
 
JDAM ! Being a leader inherently means you have to hurt people's feelings. Asking everyone's opinion and then building a consensus is the antithisis of leadership. Leadrership is being a bully. YEAH I SAID IT !!!
Everything comes with an organizational norm. Everything comes with context.

As of 11/5 I no longer work for the prison I used to work for. I still belong to the
state of Texas, but, I'm now employed in a prison that only goes up to G4..(Medium Custody)
I don't talk to crooks, nor guards the way I used to. It's civilized here. That's
context. That's an organizational norm. I see them being careful around me, because
they don't know me. They test me every day...Both guards and crooks. They want to
know if I'm going to tell it, or not tell it. They want to know how I am.

I'm just saying that peoples feelings will get hurt. It's just how you deal with it.

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Sorry I'm not willing to over look the fact she took money to keep quiet. That speaks volumes to me.

People acting like a pig while drunk is no excuse for cogs behavior, however it does explain it to me.

Context.
 
This is not in dispute. This happened. I have spoken to people who attended and the incident was the talk of the day.

Read more here: http://miamiherald.typepad.com/dolp...y-before-with-no-sanctions.html#storylink=cpy

You have spoken to people who actually witnessed the incident, or people who attended and heard talk about it? Big difference. According to the police report, it is the women who claims other people witnessed what happened. There are no reports from actual witnesses. I don't doubt an incident occurred, but it is possible that it didn't go down exactly as she says it did.

Philbin took action and I'm sure knows the details of what actually happened. I don't see him as the type of coach who would allow team members to vote Incognito as a leader a year later if her claims were 100% accurate.
 
the dolphins took a gamble when they signed incognito in 2010. he had a horrible history. but prior to these events it appeared that he had become a real success story. turned his life around. model teammate. shared in the good citizen award. made the pro bowl. when the players voted him team leader for this season, nobody questioned it, because he was one of the leaders and most well liked players on the team.

the incidents of the past, dirty play, stupid 15 yard penalties, temper, hot headedness, on field scuffles, no longer happened.

i have no idea what happened when he goosed this girl with his golf club while he had been drinking. i've done plenty of stupid things myself. i don't think all the good he did for three years here went out the window because of that incident. all the good will he had built up. i am glad the team stood up for him and did not cut him. this martin incident pisses me off to no end because it is dragging the team through the mud, and richie's manner of expressing himself to martin (and probably his other teammates) leaves a lot to be desired. but now it appears that other players spoke to martin (and probably other teammates) in such vulgar terms (as per the unnamed teammate talking about martin's sister). "i'm going to your mother this." "i'm going to your sister that." "i'm going to blank in your mouth." "you half n-word."

i have hung out in crowds of guys that routinely talk like this to one another (and worse). and now it isn't just incognito. it is another "unnamed player." if talking to each other like this is par for the course among the team, richie needs to apologize to jon martin and needs to be reinstated to the team. at no time do i feel anyone intended to harm martin's mother, kill martin, or gang rape martin's sister, etc. all just stupid mindless chatter.

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http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/parcells-incognito-model-citizen-article-1.1510449
 
we had a nice discussion about leadership in the lounge, I'd suggest visting it to get a good idea where many of us stand as far as leadership goes.
 
What is wrong with incognito? Honestly this guy sounds like he has mental problems. I just want he and martin far away from this franchise.
 
What is wrong with incognito? Honestly this guy sounds like he has mental problems. I just want he and martin far away from this franchise.

He either has mental problems or serious drinking problems, IMO. And yeah, I won't be sorry to see the both of these guys off the roster.

Goon, you're right that most players have to be a bit out of the ordinary upstairs to be able to play at that level, but I think even you would agree that Richie's got some issues that go beyond NFL normal.
 
Most dudes that play have mental issues, concussion syndrome, etc.

It's interest wrong to me that he wasn't suspended or cut. I thought philbin didn't stand for that kind of stuff. I just wish incog was gone. Pay martin off and let's play football.
 
It's interest wrong to me that he wasn't suspended or cut. I thought philbin didn't stand for that kind of stuff. I just wish incog was gone. Pay martin off and let's play football.

it's only interesting if A.) philbin knew about it, and B.) had an active part in the decision to cover it up and C.) had an active part in keeping Richie around. if those things are true then philbins integrity is **** after all this is done.
 
It's interest wrong to me that he wasn't suspended or cut. I thought philbin didn't stand for that kind of stuff. I just wish incog was gone. Pay martin off and let's play football.

RI serves a vital point of the team. Every single team in the
NFL has a guy like him. RI will get another shot before Martin
will. You know why? RI is "Down"
 
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