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Chris Perkins: Dolphins headed for mediocrity in 2025 before 2026 rebuild

danmarino7051 said:
How can a new HC win a playoff game in 3 years? You realize that the HC’s that have accomplished this are in the minority, right? And a lot that lasted more than 3 years tend to be great. Look up the history of some of you r favorite HC’s.
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Look at Demeco Ryans in Houston & Nick Siriani in Philadelphia just in the past 5 years. Sad thing is many were laughing at the Texans when Grier supposedly swindled them with the Tunsil trade, yet now they have surpased the Dolphins when it comes to being a serious playoff team.

The main problem for McDaniel is he has Chris Grier as his GM and Grier has had 9 years to build a serious playoff contender yet he's failed to do so. Going into year 7 of Grier's rebuild and the Dolphins don't look any closer to competing for a Super Bowl than they did in 2020. How many more years do you want to give Grier to try to get it right.

Sorry but if Grier goes then McDaniel & Tua will have to go as well. Ross has to stop with the half-measures. Forcing a head coach and QB on a new GM usually does not work out well.
 
jg772006 said:
He actually does deserve some blame for his "pre-GM years". I worked as a scout for 2 years & worked in a personnel department for another year (at a college, not pro), before I moved on to sports videography. I know how it goes. During Grier's "pre-GM years" from 2001-2015 ... what "great" talent did he recommend that we bring in?

The only fair thing to say about Grier during those years, is that yes, the final decisions to choose (or not choose said players) wasn't up to him ... it was to whatever GM he was working under. But based on the history of the Dolphins over the last 25 years, and especially now looking at his 9 FAILED GM years currently, do I or any Dolphins fan have any reason to believe that he was doing a good job back during those years ... years where maybe, he was doing such an awful job judging talents, that maybe, JUST MAYBE, he had a hand in getting Spielman, Hickey, Ireland, & TanneBUM all fired before he took over?

Think about it. Think LONG and HARD about it. He ****ing SUCKS at his job ... and Im counting ALL his years ... and I guarantee, when he is fired from Miami finally, and hes looking for another front office job, teams wont be looking at "just his GM years". They will be looking at ALL HIS YEARS in Miami ... as they should.
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When clueless Ross finally gets rid of Grier I can bet he wont even get a job at ESPN.
 
jg772006 said:
Dude, its not a coincidence that Chris Grier has been here THE ENTIRE TIME we havent won a playoff game. He is the only person currently in the front office that has been with the Phins here, LITERALLY, for a QUARTER OF A CENTURY. Hes been here longer, than Stephen Ross has been owner.

Yes, weve had bad GMs during that time, mainly Spielman, Ireland, and TanneBUM ... but Grier has been with ALL OF THEM. Even more insulting, is that his "GM tenure" ALONE has lasted longer than any of theirs, and he hasnt accomplished ANYTHING! Grier absolutely deserves a good brunt of the blame because he's been here the ENTIRE TIME ... hes THE ONLY ONE who has been here the entire time we havent won a playoff game, and while everyone has come and gone, HE HAS STAYED! Its not hard to understand.
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It's really hard to argue against this unless you are willfully blind and think that our guy "is at least an average GM". He's not.
Grier is a bad GM who consistently missed opps to make this team an AFC contender.
I don't love the owner but he gave Grier all the financial support to make this a good team and the GM blew it:

The 2020 and 21 drafts. Did he even get one blue chip player out of the multiple first and second round picks he had in back to back drafts? No. He took the bounty from the Tunsil trade and turned it into a pile of OK starters and some busts. The Minkah Fitzpatrick trade also didn't net enough of a return. AJ will not become a perennial all-Pro as Minkah has.

This past draft where he turned 10 picks into an underwhelming 8 picks assortment of nose tackles and players who either had down final seasons or little production their entire college careers.

The ridiculous extensions and draft capital given up in trades
Eichenberg
The refusal to fix the O-line
Letting AVG, Wilkins, Hunt walk.
The Mc D hiring along with every other clown coach Grier hired
 
joenhre said:
Look at Demeco Ryans in Houston & Nick Siriani in Philadelphia just in the past 5 years. Sad thing is many were laughing at the Texans when Grier supposedly swindled them with the Tunsil trade, yet now they have surpased the Dolphins when it comes to being a serious playoff team.

The main problem for McDaniel is he has Chris Grier as his GM and Grier has had 9 years to build a serious playoff contender yet he's failed to do so. Going into year 7 of Grier's rebuild and the Dolphins don't look any closer to competing for a Super Bowl than they did in 2020. How many more years do you want to give Grier to try to get it right.

Sorry but if Grier goes then McDaniel & Tua will have to go as well. Ross has to stop with the half-measures. Forcing a head coach and QB on a new GM usually does not work out well.
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The "re-build" began when we traded Tunsil to Houston.
Since then Houston got rid of Deshaun Watson, circled the drain, won their division twice, and two playoff games.
 
danmarino7051 said:
How can a new HC win a playoff game in 3 years? You realize that the HC’s that have accomplished this are in the minority, right? And a lot that lasted more than 3 years tend to be great. Look up the history of some of you r favorite HC’s.
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This is patently false
Look up every team that has won the super bowl since the NFL started free agency
Look up who their head coach was at the time and whether they won a playoff game within their first three years as a HC, in fact a lot of them won the super bowl within their first 3 years as HC.
There's only one HC they didn't win a playoff game in their first three years as HC with the team, that's Tom Coughlin with the Giants.
This idea that it takes more than 3 years to build a playoff winning team in the NFL is not based in reality.
 
Rick Cartman said:
The "re-build" began when we traded Tunsil to Houston.
Since then Houston got rid of Deshaun Watson, circled the drain, won their division twice, and two playoff games.
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And let's not overlook how the Watson trade restocked the Texans larder which had been depleted from the Tunsil trade. If only the Dolphins could have unloaded a disgruntled and checkered star to the Browns...

Anyway on paper I do not think the Texans are better than the Fins right now. At some positions yes but not overall, and they have Stroud's second contract looming after this season.
 
Rick Cartman said:
This is patently false
Look up every team that has won the super bowl since the NFL started free agency
Look up who their head coach was at the time and whether they won a playoff game within their first three years as a HC, in fact a lot of them won the super bowl within their first 3 years as HC.
There's only one HC they didn't win a playoff game in their first three years as HC with the team, that's Tom Coughlin with the Giants.
This idea that it takes more than 3 years to build a playoff winning team in the NFL is not based in reality.
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What?

Let’s see… since 1993 when FA started and for HC’s that got at least 3 years.

Bills: McDermott didn’t win a playoff game his first 3 season. Neither did Philips, Jauron, Williams, and Gailey.

Jets: Saleh and Bowles didn’t.

Pats: Parcells didn’t

Ravens: Marchibroda didn’t

Cinci: Shula, Coslet, Lebeau, and Lewis didn’t.

Browns: Davis, Crennel, Jackson didn’t

Texans: Capers and Kubiak didn’t.

Jags: Del rio and Bradley didn’t.

Titans: Fisher and Munchak didn’t

KC: Edwards and Haley didn’t

Chargers: Riley, Schottenheimer, Staley didn’t.

Denver: Fangio didn’t.

Raiders: Cable, Allen, Del Rio, Jon Gruden (2nd stent) didn’t.

I mean, this is only the AFC teams… lmfao… should I go on? And you claimed only one coach since 1993… hahahahahahah
 
joenhre said:
Look at Demeco Ryans in Houston & Nick Siriani in Philadelphia just in the past 5 years. Sad thing is many were laughing at the Texans when Grier supposedly swindled them with the Tunsil trade, yet now they have surpased the Dolphins when it comes to being a serious playoff team.

The main problem for McDaniel is he has Chris Grier as his GM and Grier has had 9 years to build a serious playoff contender yet he's failed to do so. Going into year 7 of Grier's rebuild and the Dolphins don't look any closer to competing for a Super Bowl than they did in 2020. How many more years do you want to give Grier to try to get it right.

Sorry but if Grier goes then McDaniel & Tua will have to go as well. Ross has to stop with the half-measures. Forcing a head coach and QB on a new GM usually does not work out well.
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Ryan’s isn’t someone one to brag about. He’s playing in a division where the Dolphins would be favored to win if they traded places. Ryan has won 10 games each season which was good enough for first place. They’ve won two home playoff games, which is something, but as soon as they go on the road they lose.
 
danmarino7051 said:
What?

Let’s see… since 1993 when FA started and for HC’s that got at least 3 years.

Bills: McDermott didn’t win a playoff game his first 3 season. Neither did Philips, Jauron, Williams, and Gailey.

Jets: Saleh and Bowles didn’t.

Pats: Parcells didn’t

Ravens: Marchibroda didn’t

Cinci: Shula, Coslet, Lebeau, and Lewis didn’t.

Browns: Davis, Crennel, Jackson didn’t

Texans: Capers and Kubiak didn’t.

Jags: Del rio and Bradley didn’t.

Titans: Fisher and Munchak didn’t

KC: Edwards and Haley didn’t

Chargers: Riley, Schottenheimer, Staley didn’t.

Denver: Fangio didn’t.

Raiders: Cable, Allen, Del Rio, Jon Gruden (2nd stent) didn’t.

I mean, this is only the AFC teams… lmfao… should I go on? And you claimed only one coach since 1993… hahahahahahah
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Re-read what i stated and look at the information you presented
If you still don't get it then god bless I guess
 
DANTODUPER said:
When clueless Ross finally gets rid of Grier I can bet he wont even get a job at ESPN.
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He won't have to being he has a vault full of Ross money in the bank for accomplishing the same records a vagrant could have off the streets for a case of beer a week.
 
Mello Yello said:
Good point....Miami's record in the McDaniel-era would've ended in finishes of 1st, 1st, and 2nd in that division over the last 3 years.

And 1st place finishes do get you home Playoff games...sometimes against the Browns!
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Could host a home playoff game if you're better than Buffalo

NY and NE certainly are not the deterrent
 
danmarino7051 said:
Ryan’s isn’t someone one to brag about. He’s playing in a division where the Dolphins would be favored to win if they traded places. Ryan has won 10 games each season which was good enough for first place. They’ve won two home playoff games, which is something, but as soon as they go on the road they lose.
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True the Texans play in a weak division which of course helped when they got to play both the playoff games they won at home. I disagree that the Dolphins would be favored to win that division though as IMO at this time the Texans are the better team. As proven just last season when Ryans' defense fairly easily shut down the Dolphins offense when Tua was starting. I do give the Dolphins defense credit in that game as they did a solid job keeping Stroud & the Texans offense in check for most of the game. Tua & the Dolphins offense turned the ball over too often & could not get much done. Still you can't take away those playoff wins from Ryans & his team.
 
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