BillsFanInPeace
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Not by as much as people make it out to be.
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Not by as much as people make it out to be.
BillsFanInPeace
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Also you have to factor in the teams Dareus plays as opposed to what Suh did. I would argue facing Brady twist a year and his can look at him status without getting flagged hurts stats
on flip side seeing Cutler and that sieve line helps inflate
Actually, last year he was. Not that you need help here.
That said, Dareus is not that much better than Suh at run stopping. So it's a toss up. They're both monsters, one just isn't as fit so...
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Oh yeah, like Suh didn't have rodgers to deal with and Dareus didn't have whoever the Jets decided to play (and we won't even mention Miami's line issues).
matt11390
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because there's jills fans in this thread lol
baalworship
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I don't think any Bills fan would think it crazy that Dolphin fans would prefer Suh. You just gave the guy 114 million dollars. Bills fans can make an argument easily for Dareus as a guy that just hit his prime, is bigger and stronger, more versatile and outpaced Suh last year in sacks and is better against the run.
Dareus was drafted 3rd and Suh 2nd overall, though Suh had more hype. Suh was better out of the box as well, Dareus just started to dominate the last 2 years.
Dareus was drafted 3rd and Suh 2nd overall, though Suh had more hype. Suh was better out of the box as well, Dareus just started to dominate the last 2 years.
BillsFanInPeace
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No I get that and I never said Dareus was better I said they are on same level.
Then get the Suh is Elite Dareus is good
So I decided to defend my thinking
They Both are ELITE DTS
Both very close in terms of production and impact
I never once said Suh was not Elite was just pointing out these two players are Elite and the same stuff yoi heard from National media of impact UFA since White you would hear the same from them if (hoping it never happens) Dareus hit the market
Then used stats and comparison to back that up just to show I am not grandstanding for my player. They are the two top DTS in the game. Very similar and slight differences between them.
You will say Suh is 1 and Dareus is 2
I will say Dareus is 1 and Suh is 2
You call Dareus conditioning into a factor
I call Suh dirty play and a microscope he is under into a factor
But what I do know is the leagues top 2 DTs are in the AFCE
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O now guess what Pegula made that in 19 minutes on a well
We might both have a point. Though, I would say mine matters a bit more. While Dareus tends to disappear late in the season (at least in terms of pass rushing production), Suh seems to get better. If a team wanted someone to perform late in the season and into the playoffs I doubt there would be much choice--it's Suh all day.
This isn't baseball.
baalworship
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Where is this conditioning concern coming from? You're making it out like the guy disappears at the end of games and at the end of the year. Didn't see that.
BillsFanInPeace
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Again and for the final time Clays contract doesn't stop one thing from what they Bills want to do this year or next
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Because of 1 season he came overweight to camp. And he only plays around 60 percent of snaps.
Dont fool yourself.
There's other examples, but consider this simple one: Dareus had his 10th sack week 10 (during a 3 sack performance--which was an anomaly). From then on he did not record a sack. There looks to be a similar trend with tackles. Seems he wasn't around the ball as often as the season went on. Of course, this is a very simple analysis. Just sayin'.
baalworship
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Yeah, came into camp overweight and had his best year. The snap counts have to do with D coordinator rotating everyone in all the time. The Bills have a lot of nice depth players like Wynn, Charles, and Lawson that can make an impact while keeping the starters fresh. It's a philosophy that worked fine.
They must have done more rotation later in the year when his snap count dwindled as well...