Dimitri Patterson injured reserve

[Kdawg954]

Anybody willing to cut Patterson are clowns. This guy played just as good if not BETTER than Brent Grimes when he was healthy. Injuries are fluky things, and they could happen to anybody in this sport. I don't really buy the injury prone theory in football. EVERYONE will get injured playing this game. Some people are lucky some not so much. I'm all for the accumulation of talent. Yes Carroll is playing well, but he's not better than a healthy Patterson. Now Imagine a secondary with Grimes a healthy Patterson and Carroll playing the slot. With the rookies coming in in dime situations and if someone goes down. Look at the seahawks secondary.. seems like they ALL can play. No weak links. That's how you build champions. I wish we would have done this with Reggie Bush, our backfield would look a whole lot better right now. KEEP PROVEN PLAYMAKERS.

Carroll in the slot is a recipe for disaster. He has NEVER looked good there. He's better on the boundary where he can man up and go down the field with a guy. Jimmy Wilson has been superb as the nickel/slot guy . . . keep him there.

I think everybody would like to keep Patterson around, but we have a salary cap to deal with and both Grimes and Carroll are Free Agents after the season. If cutting the unreliable Patterson and his 5.5 million next season can help in getting the reliable Grimes and Carroll resigned . . . then that is the move you have to make.

I've said it before and I'll say it again. We have given this guy almost 10 million dollars in the past 2 years and I don't even know if he's played a combined 10 quarters for us in that time. Sign your reliable guys, develop your rookies. We aren't keeping all 3 guys (Grimes, Patterson and Carroll).

 

[gafin]

Reshad Jones injury just a tweaked leg muscle.

Armando Salguero ‏@ArmandoSalguero 1m
Source tells me Reshad Jones injury only a "tweaked" leg muscle and nothing of concern. Expects to play on Sunday.

 

[flynryan15]

Not surprised I saw Jones break his ankles several times Sunday!

 

[Regulus]

Not surprised I saw Jones break his ankles several times Sunday!

Haha. It's unfortunate but Jones has been awful this year. I hope the front office can look past the premature contract we gave him and upgrade the position if a good option is available.

 

[Awsi Dooger]

Anybody willing to cut Patterson are clowns. This guy played just as good if not BETTER than Brent Grimes when he was healthy. Injuries are fluky things, and they could happen to anybody in this sport. I don't really buy the injury prone theory in football. EVERYONE will get injured playing this game. Some people are lucky some not so much. I'm all for the accumulation of talent. Yes Carroll is playing well, but he's not better than a healthy Patterson. Now Imagine a secondary with Grimes a healthy Patterson and Carroll playing the slot. With the rookies coming in in dime situations and if someone goes down. Look at the seahawks secondary.. seems like they ALL can play. No weak links. That's how you build champions. I wish we would have done this with Reggie Bush, our backfield would look a whole lot better right now. KEEP PROVEN PLAYMAKERS.

Much appreciated. You know what you are talking about.

There's far too much praise toward Carroll and Wilson lately, particularly Carroll. Who cares that he's made a few plays? It's not how good are you playing, it's how good are you? Keep that in mind and you'll seldom go wrong in the long term. We've already seen Carroll's caliber for many years. It hasn't magically improved. The posters who are overboard on him are the same type who expected Reshad Jones to somehow bloom into a superstar, instead of the logical regression that many of us predicted. If we pay Carroll too much based on a handful of games we'll regret it, and be stuck with a mediocrity who knows the system and repeatedly gets burned within it.

I realize people don't like it when I reference Las Vegas so frequently, but it's the type of thinking that ruined so many friends and acquaintances. They get so carried away with recent results than they lose sight of the big picture, and are burned. And then somehow instead of learning the lesson they allow it to repeat.

Patterson's level was fantastic when he was on the field this season, IMO.

 

[FearTheBeard]

Anybody willing to cut Patterson are clowns. This guy played just as good if not BETTER than Brent Grimes when he was healthy. Injuries are fluky things, and they could happen to anybody in this sport. I don't really buy the injury prone theory in football. EVERYONE will get injured playing this game. Some people are lucky some not so much. I'm all for the accumulation of talent. Yes Carroll is playing well, but he's not better than a healthy Patterson. Now Imagine a secondary with Grimes a healthy Patterson and Carroll playing the slot. With the rookies coming in in dime situations and if someone goes down. Look at the seahawks secondary.. seems like they ALL can play. No weak links. That's how you build champions. I wish we would have done this with Reggie Bush, our backfield would look a whole lot better right now. KEEP PROVEN PLAYMAKERS.

I disagree. While he's been great when he's on the field, you can't draw up a different conclusion than he's injury prone based on the fact he's finished 1 full season in 7 years. He's not all of a sudden as he ages become a healthier guy, odds are the opposite will happen. His present cap hit is definitely too high unless he put a full season together. And as another poster mentioned, not just anybody can cover the slot, and Carroll is pretty awful doing it. Gotta disagree on Reggie too, I'd love to keep everyone bit in a salary cap era gotta use your money smart. Investing in injury prone players, especially at running back isn't the recipe for success.

 

[Kdawg954]

Much appreciated. You know what you are talking about.

There's far too much praise toward Carroll and Wilson lately, particularly Carroll. Who cares that he's made a few plays? It's not how good are you playing, it's how good are you? Keep that in mind and you'll seldom go wrong in the long term. We've already seen Carroll's caliber for many years. It hasn't magically improved. The posters who are overboard on him are the same type who expected Reshad Jones to somehow bloom into a superstar, instead of the logical regression that many of us predicted. If we pay Carroll too much based on a handful of games we'll regret it, and be stuck with a mediocrity who knows the system and repeatedly gets burned within it.

I realize people don't like it when I reference Las Vegas so frequently, but it's the type of thinking that ruined so many friends and acquaintances. They get so carried away with recent results than they lose sight of the big picture, and are burned. And then somehow instead of learning the lesson they allow it to repeat.

Patterson's level was fantastic when he was on the field this season, IMO.

I don't think anybody denies that . . . but this has become a chronic thing with him over the last 3 years and change.

Truth is, Jimmy has impressed all season in the nickel, its just the truth and stats and video back that up. He's found a role and he has excelled in it. Nickel is certainly not a position that any CB can fill, but Jimmy fills that role well. I don't care for him much outside of the nickel role, but that is his niche and I am good with that. As far as Carroll, the guy has taken a beaten for the longest time on this board and many times it has come unwarranted. Because he isn't playing like Grimes or even Patterson did this season he needs to be cut and moved on when actually Carroll suits the role as a backup boundary CB quite well and a guy who you can have a little confidence to fill in if need be, which he has more than done this season.

You have to remember, we just drafted 2 CBs in the 2nd and 3rd rounds this season . . . if you plan on resigning Grimes and Carroll, and have Wilson under contract, an injury prone guy like Patterson can become expendable and part of his salary could be used to resign these 2 guys with the hope that one of the youngsters can eventually give us some of what Patterson gave us at a lower price . . . or Carroll continuing the upward curve on his play. It beats paying a guy all that money and he can't see the field.

Ideally, I would love to keep them all, but I just don't think that is realistic. Maybe I'm wrong tho.

 

[Kdawg954]

Not surprised I saw Jones break his ankles several times Sunday!

 

[AL R]

I think you have it correct Kdawg they won't keep them all especially with the 2 young corners and if Ireland is still here. If they can't hold on to Grimes than they keep Patterson I would say for sure. Wilson has played better, who would have thought-and obviously so has Carroll. Patterson is a play-maker though and can create turnovers more than any other corner on the roster except maybe Grimes. This will be some tough choices especially if Grimes really wants to stay and agrees to a 2-3 yr contract without the tag.

 

[dnespins]

Anybody willing to cut Patterson are clowns...Injuries are fluky things, and they could happen to anybody in this sport. I don't really buy the injury prone theory in football. EVERYONE will get injured playing this game.

patterson has appeared in 10+ games 4 times in 10 nfl seasons, but injuries are fluky and no one is really injury prone? and you're the one calling people clowns?

 

[hoops]

carrolls played damn well for a #2 cb...i'm not saying he's an all pro in the making but he's made big strides in his awareness and his locating of the football and he's got high end physical tools...i would take that guy as my #2 cb and feel pretty good about it off what i have seen this year...finally hitting his stride

yes you got to worry somewhat about a contract with him but he's not gonna break the bank anyways...and the rookie dbs we picked either can't see the field or shouldn't see it...they haven't proven anything...carrolls tough and he suits up every week...

 

[DuderinoN703]

Miami needs to see what Jamar Taylor and Will Davis can do. It's almost too late for them to contribute and since they keep signing guys off the street even in Week 15, it isn't looking good for them to play this year. Does Miami feel they can start or at least be a part of the defensive scheme in 2014?

Patterson is good but never healthy. I'd get him to restructure a deal next year to remain on the team but at a low price until he can prove he can stay healthy.

 

[Sirspud]

It's funny that people outside a sport can understand that it makes much more sense to let a guy stay inactive until a muscle injury fully heals than to try and rush him back too soon week after week and have him never heal. But professional sports teams are so afraid of being without a guy an extra week or two that time and time again they simply bring back players before they are fully healed. It's stupid.

I'm dealing with a torn shoulder right now and the really aggravating thing about a muscle injury, at least one in this area of the body, is that you don't have that instant feedback like you do with a break or sprain. It's possible to feel 80-90 percent, your body will let you do a lot of things, and you don't feel that residual soreness and stiffness like you do with other injuries. You feel like you can get going until you do, and only then do you realize how wrong you are when you suddenly pull on it the wrong way. It may not even bother you until you do. Suddenly, you've given yourself a setback, and you didn't even feel like you would before you started.

Professional training and coaching staffs should realize these things, but a professional trainer has to have some cohones or real conviction to hold a guy out who doesn't have clear evidence of why he should be.

 

[twohype]

Crap :-(

 

[finfan54]

I agree use his money for grimes and Carroll. Let him walk. Let him get picked up for low money. Bring him back real cheap if no takers. Its always possible.

The only caveat he will have IMHO is that Philbin believes in keeping guys who know the system and play well so he could end up staying but only for cheap. The market may have to determine that.