Do The Fins Really Have The Most Boring Qb In The Nfl????

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  1. NYC#1finsfan

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    As one caller into ESPN Radio suggested last night? I was driving home and he questioned what the heck the Dolphins were doing? He claimed not to be Dolphins fan and went on to say that Tannehill is the most non-clutch, most injury prone QB in the NFL (say what?). I was screaming at the radio. He claimed that by not moving up to grab a QB in the draft that the Dolphins have no clue as to what they are doing. The radio host agreed with him stating that he thought that the AFC East would be 3 rookies at QB and the GOAT. He did mention that RT is only 29 and that coach Gase believes in him but that didn't stop him from re-iterating his stance that he was sure that the Dolphins should have moved up and drafted a QB.
    I don't know what to say other than RT has had really one injury that morphed itself into a second season when he didn't elect to have the surgery. Also he's pretty darn exciting as a Dolphins' fan to watch, at least to me anyway. What do you want the re-incarnation of #13??? So NY Radio does have some interest in the Fins, though misguided it might be I say bring on the season already and let's show them some surprisingly exciting football (Fingers crossed)..............
     
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    or what have you ever done league.
     
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    Oh, good. Another non-specific ingredient to add to the Haterade.

    The dude high-dives off fishing boats while recovering from ACL surgery, and his wife leaves assault rifles in rental cars. I somehow doubt his life is all that boring. Private, maybe.
     
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    I don’t get why there is a conversation here about Ryan’s injury only being 1 knee injury and not 2. Who cares? If it’s 6 injuries it doesn’t change the story that he missed the last 20 games. I also don’t understand why so many give him a free pass for completely mismanaging his tear in his ACL? Instead of having the surgery he went to Europe to have expeiramental treatment that failed utterly. Ryan crushed our 2017 season single handedly by not having ACL surgery. I don’t get why he gets a pass for this. Did Wentz risk the Eagles future when he tore an ACL in Dec? No he manned up, and went under the knife.
     
  6. FinfanInBuffalo

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    Not always. Case in point - Andrew Luck. Same situation as Tannehill, maybe worse. I didn't read any suggestions that they should draft a QB.
     
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    Why would blaming him for making the decision to delay the surgery change someone's opinion of his ability to play QB? Why would any team dump a quality QB because the treatment plan failed? Out of spite? Makes no sense.

    So you're saying that Tannehill is single handedly responsible for Miami getting a better draft pick and getting Minkah Fitzpatrick. Nice.
     
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    Ryan is given a free pass because Dr James Andrews, (his surgeon who is considered the top orthopedic surgeon in the nation) and the Miami Dolphins doctors, considered it a strain/slight tear and recommended to him to rehab a year ago rather than have the full ACL surgery (the MCL would heal itself with nature). As it turns out, they made the wrong call re the ACL when he aggravated it at training. However, when you have the very best orthopedic surgeon and a team of other doctors making a recommendation and you follow their advice, I don't think you are being fair to blame the player.
    BTW - the European treatment was just to accelerate the recovery with stem cells - it was not the problem.
     
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    Stop it with logic and common sense....much better to say he did not man up and have surgery. Honestly, the things some come up with to bash is priceless...and incredibly embarrasing
     
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    Ryan throwing darts to Dola, Wilson, DP, and our new toy at TE will be very exciting this year!
     
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    Yes we should have packaged a bunch of picks this year and probably next to move up, since that’s what it would have taken. It doesn’t matter if we were sold on one just draft ‘’someone ’ so people can stop mentioning it.

    We also could have traded down supposedly as Mr Ross wanted, or we could have stayed and done what we wanted for those top picks like what happened.

    If Ryan has a bad year or is injured we all know whats coming in the next draft- they choose to roll with Ryan and try to improve the roster around him for this year.
     
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    Can't wait to see Minkah picking off Allen and Darnold
     
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    kingfin23 This is the Year

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    Tannehill is far from injury prone. He took a cheap shot to the knee and made a mistake not getting the surgery the 1st time. Tannehill is tough as balls. F ESPN dummy's
     
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    Don't forget Kenny Stills, Jakeem and Drake as well. Coach Gase has lots of weapons to play with.
     
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    Again, why does anyone pays attention to anything espn has to say? espn sucks!!
     
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    Dude may never throw a football effectively again and yet he's still crowned King Jesus QB by some.
     
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    Right on.
     
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    Lol seriously. We're making threads about the opinion of a sports radio caller
     
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    True, but it is an opinion held by many, including the goofball with the bouffant on that very network
     
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    To question Tannehill's toughness is bull crap. The kid took so many sacks it was crazy and all he did was keep getting up. He has courage and immense toughness. Question pocket presence or maybe you don't love his deep ball but nobody can say that RT isn't tough as nails and then some.
     
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    He is pretty boring.
     
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    He gets a free pass because he was following top doctor's advice, as spiketek says. But i agree 20 games is 20 games, regardless of whether its the same injury or not, team is left in same situation. Still , if it was 4 different injuries id be more worried going into this season.
     
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    The bar is set pretty high in Dolphinland. QBs will always be compared to Marino and coaches will always be chasing Shula's records. Until they prove otherwise, Gase and Tannehill will just be also rans and, dink and dunk football IS boring, safe but boring compared to what we used to see.
     
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    Sometimes the doctors and specialist are wrong. Weren't they wrong about Drew Brees when they, the Fins medical staff, told Saban to pass on him? It's not the players fault.
     
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    Tannehill has a huge chance to rewrite the narrative this season. He has every opportunity in the world. He has a line, he has RBs and he has plenty of speedy receivers and this system is perfect for him. He'll either do it or he won't. I don't see any way we come out of this season still wondering if RT is our QB? He's either going to Rock and Roll or it will be an epic fail. I've already stated that I expect him to be the same guy from 2016 that went out on a hot streak.
     
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    And Luck missed 16 games and has barely thrown a football in a year. Brady missed 15 games when he injured his knee. EVERY player that gets injured early in the year misses a significant number of games.
     
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    Tannehill injury prone? What a joke. That guy was obliterated his first 4 or 5 years and never missed more than a snap here or there. I almost think he needed this time off to freshen up for the next 10 years now that he has competent people running the organization (sort of)
     
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    Outside of the Dolphin fanbase nobody cares about Tannehill. Certainly there isn't a single fan of another team wishing they had him, except maybe as a backup.
     
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    This is a sad statement if true!!!!
     
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    What does that have to do with Tannehill being exciting on the field?
     
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    Of course this is true. Roy has his finger on the pulse of every Gm and scout in the league and what they think of our QB! Now he knows what every other teams fans are thinking! You know...because Roy says so.
     
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    If the media, opposing players and coaches, and non dolphins fans don’t think much of Tannehill...and there’s still debate amongst dolphins fans about him then well you can infer the rest.
     
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    We know it’s true when Dalton was voted in the pro bowl as an alternative over Tannehill’s 27 and 12 season. What coaches are staying up all night game planning for tannehill? Any players voting for Tannehill to be in the top 100 best players? Media isn’t saying Miami is in good shape with Tannehill coming back. Opposing fans pencil Miami as a win because Tannehill is a “scrub”. The consensus across the league and NFL media is Tannehill is just another guy.
     
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    I live in az and there are plenty of fans who thought the Cards should trade for Tannehill especially when we were rumored to trade up for Baker and they were out of reach of the top 4 rookies. There were even rumors that the Broncos were interested in a trade. So Nobody cares???
     
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    Go re-read LiphinPhan’s post. It definitely applies to you!
     
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    Cool
     
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    I expect Tannehill to have his best year. Miami finally has what should amount to an above average offense.

    Improved offensive line, what should be a better running game with Drake and Gore, decent wide receivers and perhaps a stud tight end in Gesicki.

    Matt Ryan took off as Atlanta put pieces together around him. I expect the same with Tannehill.
     
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    You have no idea what Dr James Andrews recommended, nor can you pretend to. I have never heard of skill player with a grade 2 sprain, partial tear, of his ACL not get surgery. ACLs do not heal, so with out surgery the injury could never return to 100%. I also remember when Gase had his end of the year press conference he said “Ryan choose not to have surgery.” No dr can force a surgery, as the player hasfinal say. Ryan decided to gamble on a partially torn ACL, and that is on him. The result was rather than Ryan missing the first 4-6 weeks, as Wentz will probably have to do, he missed 16 more games.

    Again we can spin this any way we want, but the fact remains Ryan missed the past 20 games. When he takes a snap in September it will be his first in 1 year and 9 months. Pair that with career losing record, and average life time stats, and you will find the answer to why ALL of the national media doesn’t expect Miami to have a super bowl run, or have an inspiring QB room. I’m sorry but the is much more evedince on thier side of this arguement.
     

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