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Dolphins coaching staff not on hand at Senior Bowl

We had our coaches coaching down there the year Jimmy Graham was there and they missed the boat on him. Scouts are enough down there. If the advanced scouts are doing their job they should already know who they like and who they don't. I've always been one for looking at tape and drafting 'football players' which is why I think the combine, except for the interview process, is largely over rated.
 
HoneyB said:
The only thing I can conclude from this is that Philbin does not feel a need to be there, and film is enough.
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A statement was already released by Miami saying Philbin is working with newly hired OC Lazor, and that is the reason he did not attend.
 
Is every coach at the Senior Bowl? No. Is every GM? No. Miami has representatives there and that will have to do. Yeah, I'd like coaching staff there to see how players follow instruction, how coachable, talk with guys a bit, but they must have a different plan in place.
 
How anyone can read this and not freak is beyond me. Guys, we're NOT covered. If Bill Belichick feels the need to be there, just days after a loss in the Conf Championships, our coaches should be there. That Philbin, Lazor, Coyle aren't there is a disgrace. That we don't yet have a GM is a disgrace. Stop sugarcoating this cluster**** of a situation.
 
HoneyB said:
http://miamiherald.typepad.com/dolp...es-home-while-rest-of-afc-east-in-mobile.html
Take from it what you will, but all of the AFC East is in Mobile, in terms of coaches. We only have Brian Gaines down there, along with Ireland's scouts.

The only thing I can conclude from this is that Philbin does not feel a need to be there, and film is enough. Personally, I don't see why you can't do both. If Belichick feels there's some advantage, who am I to say there's not one.
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It was reported yesterday that Mike Tomlin was there and he talked to Joey Porter for about an hour while not paying attention to the practice.
 
Daytona Fin said:
It was reported yesterday that Mike Tomlin was there and he talked to Joey Porter for about an hour while not paying attention to the practice.
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It was also reported that Cleveland execs went to the Senior Bowl to interview Mike Pettine (DC for Buffalo) for a HC job. The whole Senior Bowl thing seems like an NFL business trade show for schmoozing, rather than some grand event for scouting a goldmine of players.
 
Am I the only one who sees this report about Philbin not being there and thinks it's a calculated move to try to get the point across that Joe doesn't want to interfere in personnel and scouting decisions?
 
Another reporter looking for something to report. If Joe had of been there he would have wrot a story about Joe out at the Sr. Bowl looking at talent to make back door dea;s with Dawn and how to back stab the new incoming GM. Same S*^t new day. There are so many teams that send either scout or coaches or both. A story would be story would be that noone was present. That would be a story.

MOVE ON NOTHING TO SEE HERE!!!!!
 
By the way, the reason Philbin and Lazor need to catch up so much? I got a bad feeling Lazor is going to run the Mike Sherman offense.

I don't have a problem with that if they are bringing over concepts and terminology. I have a problem with that if we're bringing over the things that killed that offense, such as over-reliance on the comeback, lack of crossing routes, awful 3rd and short playcalling, and a refusal to move or motion receivers.
 
J. David Wannyheimer said:
Am I the only one who sees this report about Philbin not being there and thinks it's a calculated move to try to get the point across that Joe doesn't want to interfere in personnel and scouting decisions?
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He attended the last one, and I'm sure he won't make that mistake again. As the year progressed and we continued to struggle as a team, Joe kept throwing out remarks to reporters that personnel is not his business, only coaching is. He wants that red line, so that if the team doesn't perform, he can always blame it on the lack of talent.

This is what happens when you have an organization where everyone's more worried about cya instead of winning.

It's incredulous to me that posters are coming to the conclusion that there's absolutely no benefit to being in Mobile for any coach on any team. If that was the case, then the coaches of every other team in our division would be at home.
 
Zounds said:
That sounds like something Armando would say...I doubt he runs Sherms offense.
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Lazor has been a flexible guy. At every stop, he's basically adapted to someone else's vision. So I think that he is either going to try to build on the Sherman offense, or he took this job because he has his own vision for offensive football and is finally going to have a chance to run it.

We'll see what happens. I'm skeptical about Lazor because of his limited body of work, but there are reasons to think he could turn out to be a good hire. He's been around Dan Reeves, Joe Gibbs, and Chip Kelly. Unless he's a colossal dullard, he has to have some ideas on how to run an offense rattling around in his noggin.
 
Milk Man said:
Sporano, Ireland and Parcells went there - and fell in love with Pat White!
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Yeah and our guys fell in love with Dallas Thomas last year and he got hurt at that very event.

I'd like to see some evidence that the coach being there helps in any way because I can show evidence that it actually hurts us, just look at some of the bums we've drafted after scouting them at the senior bowl. If I'm making decisions on personnel I want to study the player on film or in real games first, then look at measurables and only then meet them in person. To meet the players first is doing it backwards in my opinion and you're in danger of falling in love with a personality over talent.
 
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