I don’t think it’s talked about a lot but I don’t find Tua to be a particularly smart dude. He actually comes off like a big dummy. I think that’s a factor in.. well, everything.
Dolphins have 'expectation of mastery' for quarterback Tua Tagovailoa
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I think Tua is smart in terms of the playbook and reading defenses. I think his instincts sometimes fail him into thinking he can take hits when he runs more than the average QB. Sadly that doesn’t seem to be true. It’s not a matter of intelligence, rather it’s his instincts and desire to win sometimes overrule logic/discapline (which would allow for more wins).
We all want our QB to play hero-ball but sometimes, it’s not a good thing.
Well, he certainly has some elite processing time and other attributes… but like actual general intelligence, like when he speaks… he seems dumb. I’m not sure how much that effects him as a QB but I do imagine it does come into play as a leader.
Joe Dolfan
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Do they expect it because of the contract or because he's shown enough to actually expect it? Has he ever even shown enough to make one think he can call an audible?
If Tuas speech makes you think he’s dumb, then, using that premise, 95% of the NFL must be utter morons.
. Give me an example of his speech which shows this. Not starting an argument, but I’ve never thought of Tua as dumb, intellectually.
fin007
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Most times your comments are intelligent. This time. Not so much.
JamesWsenior
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Joe. I could call an audible FFS. I imagine 90 percent of this board could. Simms...well the jury is still out on him
That’s because we waste timeouts in a ton of them, not to mention how many times do we see them snap it with a few seconds remaining. Even if it doesn’t result in a penalty breaking the huddle with 8 seconds left completely limits what a qb can do at the line from reading coverage to changing plays and conducting motion. It’s a problem and not a made up narrative.
Someone’s general intelligence is not determined by how they speak. That’s an extremely ignorant and inaccurate statement to make.
Well, I believe he called an audible a few times in 2023 when he actually had time at the LOS.
His favorite was that quick slant he did with Parker, only whoever it was in 2023. Typically Waddle I think. Also that play where he would drop back 3-5 steps looking left the whole time only to immediately throw deep to the right side line to Hill.
He has changed the play at the LOS previously with success. However, who knows how it would be if he had the ability to on a normal basis. We haven't seen him have the time in a McDaniels offense nor a coach in Flores who trusted or allowed him to call any play deeper then 5 yards until they were trailing in the 4th.
So we don't have much to go on, to your point. But the small sample size appears to be encouraging
If one were to meet Tua at a family picnic, he would not have to speak into his "media filter" and then maybe one could accurately estimate his intellect, or at least his ability to speak. Everything we fans get to hear is carefully scripted. The HC is just now learning how to filter his interviews, so he stammers while he thinks through what he should say. Smoothly delivering "coachspeak and playerspeak" is a skill in itself but it should not be a measurement of intelligence. More likely it indicates a player is trying to be honest and forthcoming but he knows that he should not, so he is trying to think about what he should say. Again, a separate skill.
See, these are the sort of insights and contributions that make me think, “Wow, maybe there really was something to the whole, ‘people going against positive narratives have a lot to offer’ line of thinking.”
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It also speaks to the flow in the offensive game ... it adds confusion ... sucks away confidence ... affects attitude ...
It really sucks and whether or not there is a stat supporting the opposite, a person can see it happening during the game.
Over the span of a game, having to constantly rush the play at the LOS or in the huddle will have a negative outcome for your team most of the time.
(In my opinion)
Ray R
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The Socratic method does seem to bother some folks around here.
Hey, that other guy started it. - LOL