Feeley should start...

[WitheringPlant]

Why is it that people think AJ is good? What has he ever done to make himself look like a future starter. Hel, what has he ever done to make himself look better then Sage.

 

[4evaFinz]

Why is it that people think AJ is good? What has he ever done to make himself look like a future starter. Hel, what has he ever done to make himself look better then Sage.

He started in Miami for a year. Also when he was in Philly he stepped up for an injured McNabb, and played well. I think that qualifies as better than the second worst team in the NFL's 3rd string QB.

 

[arsenal]

If QB's had to "flat out win the job" then a lot of young QB"s with talent would never get on the field. There are times where coaches have to play the younger guy with potential instead of a veteran who make look more comfortable, but has been in the league long enough to show that he is only mediocre. Frerotte in some ways was comparable to Kelly Holcombe in Cleveland a few years ago, who won the QB battle with Tim Couch and yet only aspired to play mediocre ball. That's probably a horrible example cause Tim Couch sucked, but you have to go with young guys with potential unless the veteran is incredible. Another example would be in SD, where Flutie was obviously the more crafty and comfortable QB, yet when he was given a chance to start played like........Doug Flutie. It took a while for Brees, but the young guy had to get a chance to develop.

he wins... you guys are too stuck on may the best one in TC wins... this is not a one year solution, if feeley pulls a brees it could be a longterm solution... and besides if frerotte is ahead by a tiny *** bit and they basically played the same all through training camp how could you NOT want feeley in there to see what hes got, just cause he lost by a hair in the competition? the best thing for this organization LONG TERM is to find out if feeleys got it or not...

 

[4evaFinz]

he wins... you guys are too stuck on may the best one in TC wins... this is not a one year solution, if feeley pulls a brees it could be a longterm solution... and besides if frerotte is ahead by a tiny *** bit and they basically played the same all through training camp how could you NOT want feeley in there to see what hes got, just cause he lost by a hair in the competition? the best thing for this organization LONG TERM is to find out if feeleys got it or not...

Right now I do not the think anyone on the Miami Dolphins staff looks at Feeley or Gus as the long-term solution. They are both just here until we draft some young blood. Gus is here to play for a bit until we draft. Then he retires or is gone. Then Feeley is the stable backup for the young draftee.

 

[Dolphins84]

he wins... you guys are too stuck on may the best one in TC wins... this is not a one year solution, if feeley pulls a brees it could be a longterm solution... and besides if frerotte is ahead by a tiny *** bit and they basically played the same all through training camp how could you NOT want feeley in there to see what hes got, just cause he lost by a hair in the competition? the best thing for this organization LONG TERM is to find out if feeleys got it or not...

Well you must not have watched any of the games last year to see if Feeley has it or not because he proved to us that he didnt. he locks onto a reciever and will only throw it to that person. You people are saying he is tough but i disagree completely because he is scared in the pocket and he just throws the ball up for grabs and it gets intercepted (which he lost 2 games for us last year by throwing interceptions returned for touchdowns in the Bengals and Seahawks games). he has a decent arm but not as good as all you feeley fans says he has. he doesnt take control of the game because he is to inconsistent. we never move the ball when he is in there. that is why we had the worst offense in the league last year because we couldnt get anywhere and got 3 and outs all the time. He didnt even move the ball in the first preseason game. Did he manage to help us get 1 or 2 first downs in the first quarter (which either one of those is terrible). he has problems that you cant teach. you cant help someone from being scared or not looking at the whole field. And say that he does eventually get out of these bad habits, he is already 28 (He should be in his prime at this age, he shouldnt still be learning how to play the quarterback position) by the time he gets the stuff he will be 31 or 32 years old. i dont want a starting quarterback that is just coming around at that age. Frerrotte is more experience, knows the offense better, is more aware on the field. The smart thing would be to let frerrotte play this year and even next year and work on getting a young quarterback to work on for the future in the next offseason. Feeley has no chance of being the future for this team and i dont even want him is the backup. he makes me sick watching him play. just cut him and get him off the team and out off this organization.

 

[NYinBostonFin]

These threads have to stop. I feel like I went to sleep and woke up 2 months ago.

How many times can we all argue about feeley? Yes, I know, I don't have to write about it or look at the thread, but give me a f***ing break. We all know where we stand let's see what happens after preseason.

 

[arsenal]

Well you must not have watched any of the games last year to see if Feeley has it or not because he proved to us that he didnt. he locks onto a reciever and will only throw it to that person. You people are saying he is tough but i disagree completely because he is scared in the pocket and he just throws the ball up for grabs and it gets intercepted (which he lost 2 games for us last year by throwing interceptions returned for touchdowns in the Bengals and Seahawks games). he has a decent arm but not as good as all you feeley fans says he has. he doesnt take control of the game because he is to inconsistent. we never move the ball when he is in there. that is why we had the worst offense in the league last year because we couldnt get anywhere and got 3 and outs all the time. He didnt even move the ball in the first preseason game. Did he manage to help us get 1 or 2 first downs in the first quarter (which either one of those is terrible). he has problems that you cant teach. you cant help someone from being scared or not looking at the whole field. And say that he does eventually get out of these bad habits, he is already 28 (He should be in his prime at this age, he shouldnt still be learning how to play the quarterback position) by the time he gets the stuff he will be 31 or 32 years old. i dont want a starting quarterback that is just coming around at that age. Frerrotte is more experience, knows the offense better, is more aware on the field. The smart thing would be to let frerrotte play this year and even next year and work on getting a young quarterback to work on for the future in the next offseason. Feeley has no chance of being the future for this team and i dont even want him is the backup. he makes me sick watching him play. just cut him and get him off the team and out off this organization.

judging anyone on last year is dumb...

is chris chambers a waste because he cant put up 1000 yards?

let me guess your gonna say, well he hasn't had a QB to put up those numbers... which means in football the success of a player often depends on the elements around them no?

just like a WR needs the QB, the QB needs the Oline, the running game and the offensive scheme... 3 things most important to a QBs success and we had none... and your gonna judge his performance based on that year?

i feel bad if we bring in another inexperienced guy like a rookie or somthing, you guys expect a pro bowl QB before the guy has even played a full seasons worth of football... insane...

 

[Dolphins84]

judging anyone on last year is dumb...

is chris chambers a waste because he cant put up 1000 yards?

let me guess your gonna say, well he hasn't had a QB to put up those numbers... which means in football the success of a player often depends on the elements around them no?

just like a WR needs the QB, the QB needs the Oline, the running game and the offensive scheme... 3 things most important to a QBs success and we had none... and your gonna judge his performance based on that year?

i feel bad if we bring in another inexperienced guy like a rookie or somthing, you guys expect a pro bowl QB before the guy has even played a full seasons worth of football... insane...

I dont consider chambers a waste. i saw him make plays. Feeley never makes plays and when he does have a good play every so ofter he throws an interception. Feeley looks scared when he drops back to throw. you cant teach someone not to be afraid. Did you see in the first preseason game when frerotte got the blitzer off of him in the endzone and completed the deep pass to chambers. well feeley would have got scared and took the safety or just threw it into the backs of our offensive lineman. but frerrotte stayed composed and gave the playmaking chambers the chance to make a play. that is the difference there frerotte is more aware and gives are recievers a chance to make plays when feeley is scared and panics to much. Feeley cant be the leader of the team and make plays consistently. we dont gain any yards when he is in there. How do you explain that? He is 28 years old which should be the prime of his career but we are still teaching him how to play the quarterback position. I see something wrong with that. Put frerrotte in there and get a QB next offseason and we will help a 23 year old quarterback develop instead of trying to make a 28 year old develop. At age 28 you should develop into a good quarterback already if you want to start in this league.

 

[cchambers84td]

Gus should be the starter until we draft a Qb to take over in next years draft. He is very under rated and has the tools and experience to be successful in this offense. End of story!!!

 

[adamprez2003]

Frerotte was horrible aginst the first string defense. Its only when the second string came in that he looked good. Feeley looked much better against the first string

 

[arsenal]

I dont consider chambers a waste. i saw him make plays. Feeley never makes plays and when he does have a good play every so ofter he throws an interception. Feeley looks scared when he drops back to throw. you cant teach someone not to be afraid. Did you see in the first preseason game when frerotte got the blitzer off of him in the endzone and completed the deep pass to chambers. well feeley would have got scared and took the safety or just threw it into the backs of our offensive lineman. but frerrotte stayed composed and gave the playmaking chambers the chance to make a play. that is the difference there frerotte is more aware and gives are recievers a chance to make plays when feeley is scared and panics to much. Feeley cant be the leader of the team and make plays consistently. we dont gain any yards when he is in there. How do you explain that? He is 28 years old which should be the prime of his career but we are still teaching him how to play the quarterback position. I see something wrong with that. Put frerrotte in there and get a QB next offseason and we will help a 23 year old quarterback develop instead of trying to make a 28 year old develop. At age 28 you should develop into a good quarterback already if you want to start in this league.

lol@frerotte got the blitzer off... more like frerotte was so locked onto chambers he didn't even see the guy and luckily the guy missed him... and why do i care about one play were the pass wasn't even good and probably shouldn't have been thrown to the triple teamed chambers? what does one play have to do with anything?

and who cares that feeleys 28, hes still inexperienced, you need playing time to be successful, if a QB was 66 years old but never got time on an NFL playing field hed still need to be developed, development and experience in the NFL has nothing to do with age...

but id still play that inexperienced 28 year old since i know he has the arm and ability and just needs the time to learn over the 35 year old frerotte who has zero accuracy on his passes and has hit his ceiling years ago in his career...

but thats me... im done with this thread and arguement, ive done it too many times...

 

[Justasportsfan]

From a rival fans perspective, I'd rather Feeley starts.

 

[Alxphins]

Feeley has definitely shown flashes of brilliance last year.

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Statements like this make no sense to me. Brilliance to me is pro bowl level play at the QB position. Feeley has never done that period. He had made some great individual plays but I cannot recall where he played an entire game at anything other than an avergae or above average level. His carreer stats "Including Philadelphia" -


Games Com Att Pct Yds Avg per com TD Int Scs Rating
18 287 524 54.8 3047 5.8 19 21 30 67.4

Now I am not saying he can't turn into something solid I just get tired of hearing that was great in Philly etc etc. In Philly he went 5-1 because of their defense period. He, to date, has not show anything that demonstrates that he is a quality NFL starter much less brilliant. He may yet do that but if he cannot beat out Gus Ferrotte he does not deserve to start period. Enough with the excuses for him like he does not know the offense, he does not have experience he needs a chance. He needs to out perform Gus in practice to create his own chance and he needs to work extra hard to learn the offense. Also the fact that "he can make all the trows and has a strong arm" is totally irrelevant. For example, very few QB's had an arm, if any, to rival Jeff George's arm, but we all know his story. Bottom line is that he needs to perform by making good decisions and NOT TURNINING THE BALL OVER!!!!!! If he does that he will be fine, if not he should be on the bench.

 

[Dolphins84]

lol@frerotte got the blitzer off... more like frerotte was so locked onto chambers he didn't even see the guy and luckily the guy missed him... and why do i care about one play were the pass wasn't even good and probably shouldn't have been thrown to the triple teamed chambers? what does one play have to do with anything?

and who cares that feeleys 28, hes still inexperienced, you need playing time to be successful, if a QB was 66 years old but never got time on an NFL playing field hed still need to be developed, development and experience in the NFL has nothing to do with age...

but id still play that inexperienced 28 year old since i know he has the arm and ability and just needs the time to learn over the 35 year old frerotte who has zero accuracy on his passes and has hit his ceiling years ago in his career...


Well Frerrotte made alot better play then feeley could have made. Frerrote gave chambers a chance to make a play when feeley would have got sacked and gave the bears 2 points and the ball. So you can take your pick there. Feeley is a better quarterback right now and neither feeley or frerrotte is the answer in the future. if you want a 66 year old quarterback for the future go ahead. by the time feeley gets developed he is going to be to old. we want a younger quarterback for the future. Frerrote gives us the best chance to win now and then we get a young quarterback in next years offseason. And as for the accuracy factor of frerrote i think he was 11 for 17 which i will take for the one quarter he played. i think that is a pretty good completion percentage. and the more important thing is we moved the ball when he was in well i remember only getting 2 first downs in a quarter when feeley was in there. So take your pick FEELEY= A UNAWARE SCARED QB THAT MAKES TO MANY MISTAKES AND CANT MOVE THE BALL OR FRERROTTE= A VETEREN QB WHO KNOWS THE SYSTEM AND IS MORE AWARE AND MAKES BETTER DECISIONS AND GIVES US THE BEST CHANCE TO WIN NOW. feeley and frerrotte are both not going to be the future but frerrotte gives us the best chance to WIN this year.

 

[nick1]

Fuerotte is better then Feeley end of disscusion