Fire Saban!

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I am going on the defense for some people and players who I should not have to defend. Yet many fans should not attack these people or players either.

Rick Spielman. I have heard so often "he sucks" yet there is no proof he has made a single bad move. Do you all believe AJ sucks so bad, Carrey will never play in the NFL, Will Poole was a bad draft pick in the fourth round, Gordon wasnt worth a 3rd, and we got robbed in the Ogun trade?

I got news for you all if you believe that. Our new god Saban has done many similar things. What has Saban done?

He brought in Gus Frerotte a has been or never was, He brought in a never was for the Oline, He picked Crowder in the third round that had first round talent ( why didnt we wait till the fourth like we did with Will Poole ), He drafted a running back yet our team was bloated with talent at RB plus Ricky is returning, and Saban got robbed in the Surtain Trade!


Now I know why RICKY stopped smoking weed....you must have found his supplier and bought up all the product! you trippin' man!!! :shakeno: :yell: :shakeno:

 

[Noodle Arm]

Oh come on guys....stop bashing and be nice! This message board is a way for Dolfans to express their opinions, no matter how outrageous.











Chub's opinion just happens to be completely wrong. :D

 

[fishfan34]

Ya know, you can go back and forth on alot of the trades, the good, the bad, who will do what or show what and when.. but as far as the Surtain trade, that my friend, was a NO BRAINER!!!!! Is Surtain a top 5 CB, sure he is, but, SO WHAT!?!? what good does it do to have him on the team for one more year and then watch him walk out the door next year for absolutely NO COMPENSATION!!! We had to get something for him, and we got a 2nd round pick.. pretty damn good in my opinion!!! Rick did some good things and some bad things, and like i've said before, his good moves were never as good, as his bad moves were BAD!!!!!... A 2nd rounder for Feeley topping it off..

 

[pigskinguy]

I am going on the defense for some people and players who I should not have to defend. Yet many fans should not attack these people or players either.

Rick Spielman. I have heard so often "he sucks" yet there is no proof he has made a single bad move. Do you all believe AJ sucks so bad, Carrey will never play in the NFL, Will Poole was a bad draft pick in the fourth round, Gordon wasnt worth a 3rd, and we got robbed in the Ogun trade?

I got news for you all if you believe that. Our new god Saban has done many similar things. What has Saban done?

He brought in Gus Frerotte a has been or never was, He brought in a never was for the Oline, He picked Crowder in the third round that had first round talent ( why didnt we wait till the fourth like we did with Will Poole ), He drafted a running back yet our team was bloated with talent at RB plus Ricky is returning, and Saban got robbed in the Surtain Trade!

OK firing Saban was just a joke but if the dolphins flop this year how bad was RS really? What happens if Feeley performs quite well? What happens if Gordon becomes a premier back or even a decent back. What happens if Will Poole anchors our CB spot as a top corner for the next 5 years. What happens if Carrey turns out to be a great Olineman.

Yes I know there are alot of what ifs but Saban has nothing to show for himself either. Saban is the perfect example of what if right now! All of Sabans moves are what ifs right now! What if Brown gets hurt in preseason and sits out the year, what if bringing back Ricky destroys the teams morale, What if all of our FA signings get hurt or just plain dont perform well! Will we see fire Saban threads next year?

I know many people hated Wanny. I think that the fact Speilman was around Wanny is enough for most fans to want him gone. Personally I will wait a few years before calling the guy an idiot or moron. I will wait a few years before I praise Saban too!

As for the pickups Spielman made I will give them 2 to 3 years to prove themselves. Same goes for Sabans draft and FA pickups and trades!

P.S. I heard a person say trading Ogun for a third and Booker was a reason RS should be fired! Totally moronic. We got less, a lot less for Surtain.

Good luck in the future Mr. Spielman.

 

[MikeO]

We didn't exactly have all the leverae in the world with Ogun either. You say we either had to take the 2nd rounder for Surtain or get nothing, well it was the same situation with Ogun, he was holding out, and wasn't going to play unless we payed him top money, so we bassically either took that trade or got nothing for him as well, and a Pro Bowl WR, and a 3rd isn't bad for a guy that really only had one good season and who many felt that his numbers were inflatedbecause of playing on the other side of Jason Taylor

we turned down better trade offers in April. That is what you are ignoring.

 

[BIGRED11]

are you rick spielman???

I am going on the defense for some people and players who I should not have to defend. Yet many fans should not attack these people or players either.

Rick Spielman. I have heard so often "he sucks" yet there is no proof he has made a single bad move. Do you all believe AJ sucks so bad, Carrey will never play in the NFL, Will Poole was a bad draft pick in the fourth round, Gordon wasnt worth a 3rd, and we got robbed in the Ogun trade?

I got news for you all if you believe that. Our new god Saban has done many similar things. What has Saban done?

He brought in Gus Frerotte a has been or never was, He brought in a never was for the Oline, He picked Crowder in the third round that had first round talent ( why didnt we wait till the fourth like we did with Will Poole ), He drafted a running back yet our team was bloated with talent at RB plus Ricky is returning, and Saban got robbed in the Surtain Trade!

OK firing Saban was just a joke but if the dolphins flop this year how bad was RS really? What happens if Feeley performs quite well? What happens if Gordon becomes a premier back or even a decent back. What happens if Will Poole anchors our CB spot as a top corner for the next 5 years. What happens if Carrey turns out to be a great Olineman.

Yes I know there are alot of what ifs but Saban has nothing to show for himself either. Saban is the perfect example of what if right now! All of Sabans moves are what ifs right now! What if Brown gets hurt in preseason and sits out the year, what if bringing back Ricky destroys the teams morale, What if all of our FA signings get hurt or just plain dont perform well! Will we see fire Saban threads next year?

I know many people hated Wanny. I think that the fact Speilman was around Wanny is enough for most fans to want him gone. Personally I will wait a few years before calling the guy an idiot or moron. I will wait a few years before I praise Saban too!

As for the pickups Spielman made I will give them 2 to 3 years to prove themselves. Same goes for Sabans draft and FA pickups and trades!

P.S. I heard a person say trading Ogun for a third and Booker was a reason RS should be fired! Totally moronic. We got less, a lot less for Surtain.

 

[burton87]

Jesus F'n Christ people, stop using idiotic reasoning to bash him.

Fact is, Spielman was underrated. He had two good drafts, and most of his trades can't be called terrible till we see what happens in years to come.

If Feeley turns out to be a bust, then by all means bash the hell out of him, But until then, Feeley is on our team and you guys should be supporting him, not bashing what we gave up for him.

Feeley will surprise.

Chubs is right, so lay off guys...

 

[MikeO]

Jesus F'n Christ people, stop using idiotic reasoning to bash him.

Fact is, Spielman was underrated. He had two good drafts, and most of his trades can't be called terrible till we see what happens in years to come.

If Feeley turns out to be a bust, then by all means bash the hell out of him, But until then, Feeley is on our team and you guys should be supporting him, not bashing what we gave up for him.

Feeley will surprise.

Chubs is right, so lay off guys...

Who bashed Feeley? People are just bashing the trade. Not the player!

 

[Agua]

we turned down better trade offers in April. That is what you are ignoring.

Really? What were they? Don't recall any published trade offers prior to the draft, myself.

 

[MikeO]

Really? What were they? Don't recall any published trade offers prior to the draft, myself.

Washington offered us a few, we turned each one down. Minnesota also. Details were never released, but the phone was ringing draft weekend.

Spielman didn't value draft picks.

 

[Agua]

Washington offered us a few, we turned each one down. Minnesota also. Details were never released, but the phone was ringing draft weekend.

Spielman didn't value draft picks.

Then you don't know if they were better trade offers, or not, do you?

On your last point, it woulld appear when he had been given a win now mandate from Wayne, no, he didn't value draft picks.

 

[GCS VP]

If RW decides not to come back and play for peanuts.....

And Ronnie Brown gets banged up in camp.........

(The hypotheticals above are completely reasonable)

In that situation how dumb is the Gordon trade?

I keep hearing everyone post about these GREAT DEALS for O-Gun that RS passed on during the draft.

What deal?

For who?

Where?

Ive read some speculation in some long ago "PFT" article (garbage) but does anyone else have a specific link, about specific players, from a reputable source ?

NO!!!

 

[grendel]

It's nice to know that Chub ("AKA Spielman") wanted state his case on Phinsheaven! Let us know when Wanny gives you a call, I' m sure Pitt will allow you to recruit AJ. LOL!

 

[Gofish1331]

Difference is Nick didn't give up any draft picks for Gus!!! :shakeno: :shakeno:

And who knew Ricky would return, and who is to say he will. History shows Ricky changes his mind every 5 minutes.

And who's to say Crowder would have been there in the 4th?

And how did we get robbed in the Surtain trade? Only 1 team offered us a trade for Surtain!! It was either lose Surtain and get nothing. Or get a 2nd round pick (same round pick that went for Terrell Owens, Corey Dillion...etc that caliber of player)!

Nobody should be banned from this message board for an opinion, no matter how stupid. Yet you are testing this theory!

I agree, give your head a Very hard shake!

 

[Gofish1331]

Jesus F'n Christ people, stop using idiotic reasoning to bash him.

Fact is, Spielman was underrated. He had two good drafts, and most of his trades can't be called terrible till we see what happens in years to come.

If Feeley turns out to be a bust, then by all means bash the hell out of him, But until then, Feeley is on our team and you guys should be supporting him, not bashing what we gave up for him.

Feeley will surprise.

Chubs is right, so lay off guys...

Is he right about having a bunch of good running backs? If we don,t take Brown in round 1 Saban would have been linched not fired!