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Dudeman said:
it also wasn't Gus fault that McMike and booker dropped like 5 passes between them....
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Yes it was. They were poorly thrown passes for the most part. That pass to Booker he barely got his fingertips on. One or two may have been catchable, but the rest were off target.
 
Did not see the game, but a lot of you are saying AJ's passes were short dumps. Isn't that the type of offense he played in Philly, maybe he just feels more comfortable in that type of system than in Linehan's. If that is the case maybe they called plays to take advantage of AJ's comfort level to boost his confidence. I am trying to say that good coaches put their players' in position to be successful, and maybe that is what Saban is doing...Belive me, I am neither for AJ nor Gus, I am a Dolphins fan and we can put Bugs Bunny at Qb if that will make us successful..
 
Oregonfinfan said:
I must say for someone who doesn't "SIDE" with either qb you sure ride gus's jock regulalrly!
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I must say, being from Oregon certainly clouds your judgement, just a bit, dont you think?
 
For those of us that didn't get to watch the game, I am curious as to why Brock didnot get to play and Sage I guess only played sparingly. If any qbs deserved more time to play it would have been those two.
 
Dudeman said:
it also wasn't Gus fault that McMike and booker dropped like 5 passes between them....
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When it's thrown horribly it is.
 
I didnt see the game either but some who did said AJ showed better accuracy and better zip on his passes when given time by the oline. Plus if Saban is talking AJ up in his postgame conference I would say that AJ just won (or didnt lose) the starting job
 
sports24/7 said:
Yes it was. They were poorly thrown passes for the most part. That pass to Booker he barely got his fingertips on. One or two may have been catchable, but the rest were off target.
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Did you watch the game? Some of those drops were right between the numbers.
 
'Feeley moved the ball' . Against who? Did he even pass for more than 100 yards against scrubs? Feeley is at best an immobile easy target who locks onto a receiver and will eventually get all the receivers hurt. He was a third string qb for a reason just ask the philly coach. He'll give you ten reasons.
 
sports24/7 said:
The fact still remains Feeley moved the ball and Frerotte didn't. I don't care if he is throwing 4 yard passes, if he throws three of them in a row that is a first down. If anything this is a positive. If you know football you would know that those little dump offs are not the primary reciever, they are check downs. Instead of trying to force the ball downfield like he did in the past, he is showing poise checking down and hitting the open reciever for positive yards. Throwing the ball downfield does not provide an opportunity for success if you aren't even coming close to completing your passes. The answer to the original question is yes Feeley did improve on his pocket presence. He was going against backups though so we don't know if that was the reason why.
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You should care if he throws 4 yard passes. That is Feeley's MO and it is absolutely suicidal in the NFL. I've posted dozens of times regarding the necessity of yards per attempt. Feeley defaults underneath regardless of the primary receiver or the coverage. I saw that in person in the Tennessee opener last year and it has only gotten worse, if anything.

I know football well enough that Nevada sportsbooks pay me to chart and analyze stats for them. Likewise a couple of bigtime bettors. It's primarily basic stuff in the NFL: run the ball often, pass the ball well.

Yards per attempt is ignorantly ignored by the mainstream media including ESPN. Whenever I see the overall QB rating published or mentioned they might as well be playing the Monty Python theme song in the background. The overall QB rating is the chic stat right now but it's useless. The sportsbooks don't care about it. I've never heard a single major Las Vegas handicapper who utilizes it.
 
Nublar7 said:
Did you watch the game? Some of those drops were right between the numbers.
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Yes, McMike dropped a couple of easy ones, but they were like 3 yard passes and for the most part Gus was very off the mark.
 
Here's the deal. Remember that NE won its first championship by throwing loads of short passes, in fact Brady had similar numbers to AJ tonight. I am not saying we are going to win like NE, I am saying that yards per attempt doesn't get you to the superbowl. The key is keep the chains moving, keep the defense off the field, and don't make mistakes. We can win low scoring games. I still don't think we will be very good this year, or that AJ is the answer, what I am saying is that AJ did better than Gus tonight and that you can win with short passes, period. Gus had his chances; regardless of the drops he fumbled twice! I am sure we will use both QB's throughout the season, I am going to go back to drinking now.
 
Awsi Dooger said:
You should care if he throws 4 yard passes. That is Feeley's MO and it is absolutely suicidal in the NFL. I've posted dozens of times regarding the necessity of yards per attempt. Feeley defaults underneath regardless of the primary receiver or the coverage. I saw that in person in the Tennessee opener last year and it has only gotten worse, if anything.

I know football well enough that Nevada sportsbooks pay me to chart and analyze stats for them. Likewise a couple of bigtime bettors. It's primarily basic stuff in the NFL: run the ball often, pass the ball well.

Yards per attempt is ignorantly ignored by the mainstream media including ESPN. Whenever I see the overall QB rating published or mentioned they might as well be playing the Monty Python theme song in the background. The overall QB rating is the chic stat right now but it's useless. The sportsbooks don't care about it. I've never heard a single major Las Vegas handicapper who utilizes it.
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Of course I would like to see him throw the ball downfield more, but if it isn't there he shouldn't throw it. A 5 yard gain is better than an incompletion. Feeley's constant 5 yard gains moved the ball much better than Frerotte's constant incompletions. With more time Feeley will probably have more attempts downfield. He didn't have Chambers at his exposure tonight like Frerotte did. And last year he didn't exactly get much time to throw the deep ball. I am not here to make excuses for Feeley, he hasn't been impressive yet. But IMO he has looked better than Frerotte who has constantly been inacurate and his lone TD came on a pass that slipped out of his hand that could have just as easily been an INT. I would have been in Gus's corner if he had a good game tonight but he didn't and we still are without a good QB.
 
downfield said:
Here's the deal. Remember that NE won its first championship by throwing loads of short passes, in fact Brady had similar numbers to AJ tonight. The key is keep the chains moving, keep the defense off the field, and don't make mistakes.
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thats the thing dude...our offense can't sustain 10-12-15 play drives without screwing it up. that's way too many plays for us.
 
Feeley was playing with the 2nd string o-line, yes?

Our first can't even block right yet.

Plus, Gus didn't have a better average per pass either.
 
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