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For those who classify Tua as Injury Prone: Good listen

It seems like the NFL trend is moving towards guards being as or more important as tackles now and moving forwards. I expect our veteran talent at guard will play dividends in 2020 while we wait for our Tackle talent to catch up. We have young guys from 2019 that may very well take a leap forward, including Davenport, who has all the physical metrics to be successful. Davis might be 'good enough' to hold the line and skew towards 'average' if the guards are doing their job.
If we can run the ball much better and stay out of constant, crappy down&distance situations, as well as create an interior pocket that our QB can step forward into, than we'll be way ahead of where we've been for Years and 2021 will get better from there.
Good guard play will be a huge step up from where we've been.
We had Tunsil for 2 years where we still couldnt run the ball worth expletive. Im excited for better guard play. I think the diff will be noticeable and having veteran talent at RB will also pay huge dividends.
 
rent this space said:
Aren’t #4 and #5 during the same the surgery?
even so, you are now counting plastic surgery as evidence of “injury-prone”
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OMG you made a comment about another poster of being wrong and in fact you were wrong. Move on.
I hope you know a hip surgeon doesn’t repair noses. So that’s 2 surgeons for 2 different surgeries. That makes 5
FYI a broken nose is an injury.
 
lurking said:
OMG you made a comment about another poster of being wrong and in fact you were wrong. Move on.
I hope you know a hip surgeon doesn’t repair noses. So that’s 2 surgeons for 2 different surgeries. That makes 5
FYI a broken nose is an injury.
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Two specialists in the same room with a patient under anesthesia one time is not two surgeries.
So it isn’t 5 surgeries, sorry.
 
1972forever said:
How many times have you been tackled by NFL defensive players trying to bury you on every offensive play since your surgery? No one ever stated that he wouldn’t be able to live a normal life after his hip surgery. But no one ever said that playing in the NFL and subjecting you’re body to violet hits week after week is normal either.
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Fair enough but the same can be said of any fracture. My point is if the hip healed right then it's no more concern than Rodgers' collar bone or DVP breaking his foot in college.

Your argument implies they shouldn't have picked Tua at all because his hip couldn't a college hit anyway.
 
lurking said:
OMG you’re just embarrassing yourself now.
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You can OMG! all you want
The 2 ankles and finger kept him out a couple weeks each. The nose had nothing to do with football and was done with the hip.
He had one injury that mattered. He's healed and no more likely to be injured than anyone else. Please, let's move on.
 
rent this space said:
You can OMG! all you want
The 2 ankles and finger kept him out a couple weeks each. The nose had nothing to do with football and was done with the hip.
He had one injury that mattered. He's healed and no more likely to be injured than anyone else. Please, let's move on.
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No problem
 
Alright guys. Lets try to end the bickering back and forth over if it was 4 or 4.5 or 5 surgeries...


my quick take: If you do a nose surgery at the same time as the hip surgery, those are 2 different procedures - thus 2 different surgeries.
 
If it was just ankle problems...tua probably would of went number1 in draft.
 
rent this space said:
This isn't even close to accurate. How can we respect your take if you get the simple stuff wrong?
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Here's a Miami Herald article referencing some of them.

https://www.miamiherald.com/sports/spt-columns-blogs/armando-salguero/article241873141.html

It lists the 5 "confirmed" ones and then puts out the info of the two wrist injuries. That's 7 total listed in this Miami Herald article alone. So the total would be:

Forbes:
1. Broken left index finger (March 2018; no games missed)
2. Sprained right knee (October 2018; no games missed)
3. Left high ankle sprain (December 2018; surgery; no games missed)
4. Right high ankle sprain (October 2019; surgery; 1 game missed)
5. Dislocated right hip with posterior acetabular wall fracture (November 2019; surgery; missed final 3.5 games)

Michael Lombardi:
6. Broken wrist on 1st day of spring ball (no date listed)
7. Broke wrist again after he "came back" (no date listed)

There's a source for ya that we all know, Armando Salguero of the Miami Herald. The only ones not widely accepted would be the two claimed by Michael Lombardi--the two wrist breaks. So the injury count looks like two ankles, two wrists, a knee, a hip, and fingers. Other sources have claimed 5 surgeries, including a second knee issue not listed here, but I'm too tired to track that down now. Not all were surgeries, but I've done enough research to prove what I'm saying for one night, I'm going to bed.

Look, not everyone is worried about a history of injuries ... I am. Everyone can have their own viewpoint, but until he plays a couple consecutive seasons without injury, I'm going to be worried. I've seen prospects not pan out because of injuries, and our recent history of bad OL's isn't very comforting. Drafting road grader blockers doesn't soothe my concerns. Your mileage may vary ... but I'm not going to gloss over it because of the glitz of his Alabama career. I wanted Drew Brees at the time, and regretted our bad decision by Saban then. I'm surely hoping Tua is our delayed satisfaction with a Brees-esque career in Miami ... but these injuries worry me.
 
EJay said:
Clearly you’re refusing to acknowledge the debate going on in this very thread, even though you’ve clearly read through it. C’mon Birdmond, you’re wiser than that.
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Correct. There is no debate to acknowledge.
 
Birdmond said:
Correct. There is no debate to acknowledge.
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Well, I suppose you‘re entitled to denial too.

However anybody with two eyes that can also read is able see the truth. Unfortunately not everybody does.

No worries.
 
lurking said:
If they withhold Tua it’s not gonna be because of the oline issues, it’s either he hasn’t recovered from injury or he couldn’t beat out Fitzpatrick. They’re going play the player that gives them the best chance to win period.
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I just don’t see the need to rush Tua. Fitzpatrick has several years of experience in the Gailey offense and if the coaching staff isn’t concerned about Tua playing behind a young and inexperienced OL, that would just be foolish.
He had major surgery and giving him a full year to recover makes sense to me. The Dolphins are not a playoff team at this stage of the rebuild and they can afford to let Tua sit and learn while he continues to recover and the OL develops cohesion. I will be happy if Tua gets a few starts late in the season.
I don’t see them winning more than 6 games this coming season no matter who the starter is and since I don’t see them making the playoffs, I would rather see them build a solid OL for the future than force Tua to play immediately.
 
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