Forget Ronnie Brown!!

[PHAZINPHINZPHAN]

easy for any of us to say for him to leave a few million on the table just so he doesn't miss a couple days of camp!!

everyone is making a mountain out of a mole hill here. go ask a Charger fan if how long they stayed mad at LaDanian for holding out most of training camp.....most likely until he carried the ball for the first time....then all was forgotten.

just relax, the business comes first here, and it would be horrible business for him to leave that money on the table.

Well put the rest of the money in incentives is this that hard to comprehend

 

[wyatt erp]

what this fan base needs is to see the dolphins kick some jets butt and watch ronnie and ricky get after it.


oh yea and most important is my fellow dolphin fans need to find a woman or two and grab a keg of beer.

 

[PHINZONER]

Not bashing him. Just want to win at the #s' game. The more they save on him the more they have to spend later. I want him in camp, just that I believe that he will sign for less. What did the last rb taken 2nd overall get for bonus. Take that times the inflation every year and that is what he deserves. A rb does not command as much $ as a stud lineman or cb or a QB for that matter. I still feel that Braylon Edwards was a better all around player than Brown and so would all of you if they picked him. Since more teams would take Edwards over Brown he should have asked for a $23 mill bonus right!! Regardless I feel he should be in camp and doing his job. He said signing would not be an issue, and here it is, week 1 of pre-season and there is no Ronnie.

If you go by the previous year's slot that is similar to Ronnie's then why did they need to wait for Smith to sign? Is Ronnie resting an injury? Is he nervous? Is he afraid of the big boys? Is he avoiding the hazing? What is he doing? W

Waiting for more money!!!!! Can't say I really fault him for that. Get ehat you can, you MAY get hurt, and why not? I can not sit here and honestly say that I would just take 5 mill less just to play. I want to set up my family for life if I can.

Well, show the team how confident you are in yourself and do an incentive based contract for the $3-5 mill difference that you are apart on. Have an insurance policy on yourself that the team will pay for or fit it in the contract in case of injury. Just get it done. Miami could play real hardball and it would cost him far far more than 3 million. I will go on a limb and say he would not be taken in the top 5 next year. That would mean 2-8 million in bonus and a lot less in yearly salary.

Ronnie get er' done!!!!!!!

See him in camp next week!

 

[THE FAT FIN]

Im gonna get bashed for this. But listen, my personal opinion is that NOBODY deserves to make millions playing football for 5-6 months. But thats just me, so we drafted a runningback at #2. Look what happened with Phillip Rivers, he is being paid all this money and isnt even playing!! Why on Earth should we pay 23 million dollars to some runningback who hasnt even SHOWED he can play well in the NFL yet, especially when we have Ricky Williams who is looking real good, Lamar Gordon, Sammy Morris, Heath Evans, Travis Minor. If Ronnie Brown wants to be ****y over 3 million dollars, then i say show him the door and save that 23 million dollars for someone else we may need.....like a deal to get a CB, C, QB. Right now runningback is not a need, we have 4 decent runners. Like i said, if Ronnie Brown wants to hold out cuz he thinks he deserves 23 million even tho he hasnt PLAYED yet, then show him the door! Yes i think Ronnie is good, but no rookie 24 year old who hasnt played yet, deserves soooooo much money. Im sick of these players holding out cuz they think they deserve so much, DOCTORS dont even make that much. If i was Miami, i would not go any farther than what they are offering...who cares if Ronnie Brown holds out...let him go to Tampa Bay and play with Cadillac again, or someone who is dumb enough to pay him so much. Anybody agree with me??? (or am i gonna be bashed:confused: )

:sleep:

 

[ItalianDolFan]

24 year old graduates college and gets drafted into 1st year of football and earns $23 million for 6 months of football. A "Straight A" Advanced Placement student graduates high school, enters Ivy League School to become a doctor...15 years of hard work it takes him to earn $500,000 A YEAR. Doesnt that sound a BIT messed up to you?? I guess it dont matter anyway, Congress doesnt seem to listen to a damn thing we citizens say anyway. :yell:

 

[TARHEEL38]

24 year old graduates college and gets drafted into 1st year of football and earns $23 million for 6 months of football. A "Straight A" Advanced Placement student graduates high school, enters Ivy League School to become a doctor...15 years of hard work it takes him to earn $500,000 A YEAR. Doesnt that sound a BIT messed up to you?? I guess it dont matter anyway, Congress doesnt seem to listen to a damn thing we citizens say anyway. :yell:

UHH......HUH??? What are you talking about?? Heck no it doesn't sound messed up!!!! It is called CAPITALISM!!!!!!! We don't live in a socialist or communist society. Why on earth would we won't the government to get involved in any more of our lives?? We live in a free market economy, the "congress" needs to stay out of it and it will be just fine. If you feel doctors don't make enough money then go out and pay double every time you go to one, or start a charity in one of their names, if you think players make too much then don't buy or financially support the NFL. It isn't brain surgery, this is hard to figure out. :shakeno: :shakeno:

 

[TARHEEL38]

Any time some one owns a company they will usually make much more money than the people they employ. If You owned a football team and paid your best players more money than you made you would lose money and be bankrupt. The owner assumes all risks and and is the only one that possibly can take a loss. I as a fan have one big problem with the NFL and owners, they are one of the few businesses( all team sports but esp NFL) that has public money subsidize thier business so that they can make millions and spend money on other millionaires. If the NFL has so much money then they should build thier own stadiums instead of sticking it to the taxpayers.

Also if you wanna compare Athletes to Hollywood stars its all about what money the product makes. Lets not forget we pay well over 50 dollars a ticket so that athletes can make this money plus fund the stadiums, complexes and such. I think we pay about 8 to 10 dollars for a movie, about 20 dollars for a dvd. I think we pay too much for movie tickets but comparing that to what NFLtickets cost it almost seems reasonable.

Yes I agree, I am not saying owners make too much, I am saying players should not be blamed for asking for what they think they can get. We would probably do the same, or at least I would. I agree owner take all the risk and SHOULD get paid more, but with the kind of money out there, the players are not being unreasonable.
As for the owners getting subsidze, I couldn't agree more. I live just outside of Charlotte and Jerry Richardson was one of the first to start with the whole PSL deal. He got most of the stadium paid for by the fans and then turned around and still ask for money from the city, which he then got. Now he has the staduim bought and paid for, in his name, with no quarterly payment, like most teams have to make. Although I must admit if I was him, it would be an awesome deal and I to would try to get it, it doesn't seem right that the city helped him build it and then charged it to the citizens.
As for paying too much for movie tickets, I agree here also. However in the economic system in which we live there are correct ways to handle such things. I haven't been to see but about 2 movies in the last year. I don't financally support them any longer. One person will not make a difference, nor should it, however if enough people agree and do the same then prices WILL go down or the movie bus. will go under.

 

[rainmaker1313]

I say Trade Ronnie for a nice iced cold lemonade!! HAHAHA

 

[Minnphin]

Im gonna get bashed for this. But listen, my personal opinion is that NOBODY deserves to make millions playing football for 5-6 months. But thats just me, so we drafted a runningback at #2. Look what happened with Phillip Rivers, he is being paid all this money and isnt even playing!! Why on Earth should we pay 23 million dollars to some runningback who hasnt even SHOWED he can play well in the NFL yet, especially when we have Ricky Williams who is looking real good, Lamar Gordon, Sammy Morris, Heath Evans, Travis Minor. If Ronnie Brown wants to be ****y over 3 million dollars, then i say show him the door and save that 23 million dollars for someone else we may need.....like a deal to get a CB, C, QB. Right now runningback is not a need, we have 4 decent runners. Like i said, if Ronnie Brown wants to hold out cuz he thinks he deserves 23 million even tho he hasnt PLAYED yet, then show him the door! Yes i think Ronnie is good, but no rookie 24 year old who hasnt played yet, deserves soooooo much money. Im sick of these players holding out cuz they think they deserve so much, DOCTORS dont even make that much. If i was Miami, i would not go any farther than what they are offering...who cares if Ronnie Brown has out...let him go to Tampa Bay and play with Cadillac again, or someone who is dumb enough to pay him so much. Anybody agree with me??? (or am i gonna be bashed:confused: )

Forget Ronnie? No...Forget you...and I'm talking about the tbs sensor version that ends up as forget you...I already got my ronnie jersey, and I'm not hanging it up for my old pothead jersey...i say forget ricky and trade him to some team that likes quitters. Don't ship off a 22 year old who has all the tools but only wants a comparable salary to what everybody else is getting. How quickly some fans forget that Ricky quit for drugs...and he'll do it again.

 

[yankeehillbilly]

Yea, and lose 5mil in cap room for the next 4 years. That's FREAKIN' GENIUS!

Doesnt work quite that way. Because of the Rookie pool limitations we would probably have to sign Ronnie to some sort of a 2 tiered deal similar to what Rivers got last year, which would complicate the cap implications greatly. However, it would probably result in a cap hit of a couple million in the year he was cut and the remaining uncharged portion of his bonuses in the following year. That would make cutting Brown virtually impossible since no team can afford to take a 15-20 million dollar cap hit in a single year.