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Frerotte play by play

Dudeman said:
I just think its funny that 2 Feeley huggers had to post play by plays for both QBs, as to give their opinion on why they think AJ is great credibility

Well I actually liked the first one. This one was advertised as a "play by play" but is so biased it burns your eyes.
 
Are you sure you know what you're talking about Ferotte did good. Frerotte side stepped a lot of pass rush, and he knew where a weak spot was going to be, I remember on play he saw a blitz coming, and he threw a nice quick pass to a receiver, I think Gilmore in stride. He did that alot, the pass to Chambers was not as bad as you say, there wasn't much other way that the ball was going to get to chambers, because he was double teamed, he had one or two throws that were off, but damn, you want the guy to play perfect, of course we would all want that but he played well, and made nice throws for the most part, and good pocket presence, unlike Feeley, he didn't lock down his receivers, that's what Feeley did, he checked the whole field and then threw the ball to the open, so what he threw a one yard pass he had pressure coming, he didn't try forcing anything, which was smart, Feeley threw the ball at his linemans back when pressure was coming at him, that easily could've been an interception, if the linebackers were aware. I think you need to watch that tape again or learn how to evaluate better, you seem very pessimistic. I see the good and bad, The blocking on the o-line was bad, the secondary, well Howard, and Tillman weren't playing to well, Madison has to learn how to tackle. I think Schulters and Dainels in will help the secondary out, plus some pressure actually coming from the D-line might alos help the qb had like 20 seconds to throw the ball.
 
After all the Feeley bashing I decided to take a second look to make sure i didnt see a different game than all the Gusateers. Gus had a good game feeley had a good game. They both had one outstanding pass (Feeley's incomplete to Thompson and Frerotte's incomplete to Diamond). Feeley looked downfield when he was on the field, Frerotte tended to look short though he went for it a couple of times. Although the pass was a little weak, Frerotte's first pass the sideline bomb to CC showed good recovery and presence. There was one major difference between the two. Starting with Frerotte's second series the chicago pass rush virtually disappeared coincidently once the 2nd stringers came in.
 
cltchperf said:
Are you sure you know what you're talking about Ferotte did good. Frerotte side stepped a lot of pass rush, and he knew where a weak spot was going to be, I remember on play he saw a blitz coming, and he threw a nice quick pass to a receiver, I think Gilmore in stride. He did that alot, the pass to Chambers was not as bad as you say, there wasn't much other way that the ball was going to get to chambers, because he was double teamed, he had one or two throws that were off, but damn, you want the guy to play perfect, of course we would all want that but he played well, and made nice throws for the most part, and good pocket presence, unlike Feeley, he didn't lock down his receivers, that's what Feeley did, he checked the whole field and then threw the ball to the open, so what he threw a one yard pass he had pressure coming, he didn't try forcing anything, which was smart, Feeley threw the ball at his linemans back when pressure was coming at him, that easily could've been an interception, if the linebackers were aware. I think you need to watch that tape again or learn how to evaluate better, you seem very pessimistic. I see the good and bad, The blocking on the o-line was bad, the secondary, well Howard, and Tillman weren't playing to well, Madison has to learn how to tackle. I think Schulters and Dainels in will help the secondary out, plus some pressure actually coming from the D-line might alos help the qb had like 20 seconds to throw the ball.

The gilmore slant was nice no doubt. He wasnt sidestepping that much, watch the tape again, the pass rush disappears after the first series. Look, Frerotte had alot of short passes. He missed for the most part when he went deep. Not necessarily his fault cause the receivers tended to be covered and he was probably throwing it away. The gilmore slant and the Boston come back and the icomplete pass to diamond were his highlight plays ( along with the underthrown cc catch) I am not ripping his play but watch the tape again. If you disagree with a particular description of a particul;ar play spell it out like Touborg did.
 
adamprez2003 said:
The gilmore slant was nice no doubt. He wasnt sidestepping that much, watch the tape again, the pass rush disappears after the first series. Look, Frerotte had alot of short passes. He missed for the most part when he went deep. Not necessarily his fault cause the receivers tended to be covered and he was probably throwing it away. The gilmore slant and the Boston come back and the icomplete pass to diamond were his highlight plays ( along with the underthrown cc catch) I am not ripping his play but watch the tape again. If you disagree with a particular description of a particul;ar play spell it out like Touborg did.

Christ, why can't you just give Gus props without injecting some kind of trivial nitpicking into every post you make?
 
lol

Notice how some of the Frerotte supporters are now starting to cry when hearing a play by play

LOL

Frerotte had a solid game. He showed better pocket awareness.

The only thing missing from this play by play was his great pocket awareness IMO. Not being sarcastic.

Other then that it was right on.

Honestly dude, if you seriously couldn't tell he was being sarcastic and venomous to Donald "The Glue" Lee. Then you seriously need to no be reading this stuff since your comprehension is lacking.

The whole play by play he is dissing and mocking Donald Lee, but all of a sudden on that one play he decides to not be venomous towards Lee but instead turn his wrath to Gus? Come on dude.
 
I noticed on the play Feeley got taken out on (the Sack by ML Brian Url.) the tight end or running back ran to the left of Feeley but Feeley faked his hand off to the right. That seems kind of stupid to me, certainly not a great play fake.

What's with that?
 
If you disagree with a particular play description point it out and describe it in better detail. If you think I'm missing something concerning Frerotte point out what he did on what particular play that was impressive to you that i missed. Ill take a look at the tape and if youre right i'll agree
 
Dudeman said:
Christ, why can't you just give Gus props without injecting some kind of trivial nitpicking into every post you make?

I agree. I wish the same would go for the ones bashing Feeley who IMO was more impressive throwing the ball then Gus.

Gus has better pocket presense
Feeley has the better arm and accuracy.


\It's neck and neck right now, niether jumped out ahead of the other yet.
 
adamprez2003 said:
The gilmore slant was nice no doubt. He wasnt sidestepping that much, watch the tape again, the pass rush disappears after the first series. Look, Frerotte had alot of short passes. He missed for the most part when he went deep. Not necessarily his fault cause the receivers tended to be covered and he was probably throwing it away. The gilmore slant and the Boston come back and the icomplete pass to diamond were his highlight plays ( along with the underthrown cc catch) I am not ripping his play but watch the tape again. If you disagree with a particular description of a particul;ar play spell it out like Touborg did.

I just feel that you are nit picking like some people do that always see the glass half empty. I know he over threw Boston, but he moved the ball pretty good, I mean from the 2 yard line all the way to a shor kick by Mare on the first series he would have had 2 TDs but no.40 stumbled just before he got the ball. I'm happy with how Frerotte drove the team down that fields,and he had composure to him, that he knew where he was going to do with the ball even when a blitze was coming, side step and then deliver. Feeley sits there like a sitting duck or throws the ball at his linemans back like I've already said. It was good performance overall. He had a good passe rating, it seems like you are looking for him to be perfect, Frerotte did good, it's only the first preseason game too. You can spot out bad throws from Brett Favre or any qb if that's you're attention, most of the qbs that play well have a lot of nice throws and , some that are a little off, but it happens. He had more nice throws than you're saying though he had more than one nice quick, sharp throw on quick slant to his reciever when they blitzed.
 
GRYPHONK said:
I agree. I wish the same would go for the ones bashing Feeley who IMO was more impressive throwing the ball then Gus.

Gus has better pocket presense
Feeley has the better arm and accuracy.


\It's neck and neck right now, niether jumped out ahead of the other yet.

I think Feeley threw the ball well as far as accuracy, but Frerotte did good too, I don't really see the either guy throwing the ball much better than the other.
 
GRYPHONK said:
lol

Notice how some of the Frerotte supporters are now starting to cry when hearing a play by play

LOL

Frerotte had a solid game. He showed better pocket awareness.

The only thing missing from this play by play was his great pocket awareness IMO. Not being sarcastic.

Other then that it was right on.

Honestly dude, if you seriously couldn't tell he was being sarcastic and venomous to Donald "The Glue" Lee. Then you seriously need to no be reading this stuff since your comprehension is lacking.

The whole play by play he is dissing and mocking Donald Lee, but all of a sudden on that one play he decides to not be venomous towards Lee but instead turn his wrath to Gus? Come on dude.

Thanks for pointing out something specific that I didnt point out. Frerotte had good pocket awareness overall. I agree.
 
cltchperf said:
I just feel that you are nit picking like some people do that always see the glass half empty. I know he over threw Boston, but he moved the ball pretty good, I mean from the 2 yard line all the way to a shor kick by Mare on the first series he would have had 2 TDs but no.40 stumbled just before he got the ball. I'm happy with how Frerotte drove the team down that fields,and he had composure to him, that he knew where he was going to do with the ball even when a blitze was coming, side step and then deliver. Feeley sits there like a sitting duck or throws the ball at his linemans back like I've already said. It was good performance overall. He had a good passe rating, it seems like you are looking for him to be perfect, Frerotte did good, it's only the first preseason game too. You can spot out bad throws from Brett Favre or any qb if that's you're attention, most of the qbs that play well have a lot of nice throws and , some that are a little off, but it happens. He had more nice throws than you're saying though he had more than one nice quick, sharp throw on quick slant to his reciever when they blitzed.

Look at my all my posts today and you will see that I agree that he had a good day. I did the play by play to show what types of passes he was completing. The play by play does point out his flaws but i tried to point out his good plays like the pass to #40 (who is lorenzo diamond) I said that was his best throw of the game and a great throw however you look at it. The point of this post is both QBS pklayed well (in fact all 4). None were perfect
 
cltchperf said:
I just feel that you are nit picking like some people do that always see the glass half empty. I know he over threw Boston, but he moved the ball pretty good, I mean from the 2 yard line all the way to a shor kick by Mare on the first series he would have had 2 TDs but no.40 stumbled just before he got the ball. I'm happy with how Frerotte drove the team down that fields,and he had composure to him, that he knew where he was going to do with the ball even when a blitze was coming, side step and then deliver. Feeley sits there like a sitting duck or throws the ball at his linemans back like I've already said. It was good performance overall. He had a good passe rating, it seems like you are looking for him to be perfect, Frerotte did good, it's only the first preseason game too. You can spot out bad throws from Brett Favre or any qb if that's you're attention, most of the qbs that play well have a lot of nice throws and , some that are a little off, but it happens. He had more nice throws than you're saying though he had more than one nice quick, sharp throw on quick slant to his reciever when they blitzed.

In terms of nitpicking you saying Feeley throws the ball at lineman's backs is somehow glass half full right? I guess that throw to DT was just a mirrage
 
adamprez2003 said:
In terms of nitpicking you saying Feeley throws the ball at lineman's backs is somehow glass half full right? I guess that throw to DT was just a mirrage

That was a good throw to DT, I'm not the guy that has been saying Feeley sucks, unlike some people on this forum, I think he did ok, but I think Frerotte did better.
 
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