GM Candidates Still Confused About Power Structure

[phinfan40353]

Ross needs to make it clear publicly and structurally that dawn Aponte is not running the team and she reports to the GM. She should report to Philbin as well.

If it were so, it would be obvious.

Confusion exists because complexity is present. It seems to me that Aponte's presence and our convoluted structure is not quite attracting individuals. Coupled with the fact we keep interviewing while others are hiring tells me we have a situation no one wants.

The board would be better off coming to grips with the fact Dawn HAS more power than anyone wants to admit. And her presence is quickly becoming a stench rivaling "The Ireland".

Ross has given so much special treatment to Dawn in order to find favor among the NFL brass it is hurting this team. We have a HC. We have an owner. In a normal situation a GM slides in between them and the problem is solved.

But instead, we have Dawn. Excusing her presence and role in all of this is ignoring the elephant in the room. Walking around scratching our heads wondering why we can't figure it out, yet there's our special circumstance right in front of our eyes.

She will continue to create a problem until she finally gets elevated to the NFL offices and she becomes someone else's problem. Then we can watch "The First Lady of Football" on ESPN's 30 for 30 in a few years and see how she struggled to carve out a spot for herself in a man's world.

I have no issue with her pursuing her career. But frankly, if she was a man, this confusion wouldn't exist and the "he" in her shoes wouldn't have this much impact or power.

Understand, this is about a problem. A problem preventing our favorite team from acquiring the people it needs to succeed. Ireland was a problem. He was shown the door. We have another problem.

Fix the problem and go about hiring a GM the right way.

 

[dlockz]

He already released a statement claiming what you are asking for.

He also said he was only giving Harbaugh career advice and not looking to hire him when he went out to hire him lol

 

[HoneyB]

He already released a statement claiming what you are asking for.

The only thing Ross has said is that the GM will report to him. It doesn't shed any light on the power structure. What happens when the GM goes to Ross and Ross is unavailable, does he then go to Aponte? Or, if Ross doesn't have an answer to a particular problem, does he refer the GM to Aponte? What happens when the new GM is talking to someone about the team and Aponte walks in the room, does he suddenly clam up because he doesn't know if she's going to go back to Ross and repeat what he said verbatim, like she did with Ireland? What about the alliance of Aponte and Philbin? And this is just the stuff on the surface. I'm sure there's more complications than this, if the candidates are expressing concern.

Basically Ross knew nothing about running a team, he's not Robert Kraft. He place all the managing in Ireland's hands. Ireland proved incapable, so Ross feels like he has to step in now, and not give complete power and trust to another GM again, like he did with Ireland. That's what created room for executives like Aponte. He needed other people to rely on.

 

[ac_lanham]

Biggest problem is the possibility of Philbin and Aponte taking sides and possibly overruling the GM since they all will have even power. Having an absentee owner doesn't help either. Easiest way to alleviate this in my opinion would be to hire a czar, that is based in Miami, that all three report to in the event of a dispute. Czar would then report to Ross.

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[Zounds]

The only thing Ross has said is that the GM will report to him.

Which means the GM is not reporting to Aponte. I dont even need to read past your first sentence....

 

[ONole1]

Aponte doesn't decide who we give contracts to. She just writes the contract.

Sooooo, if her or Philbin don't really want that player what is to stop her from not negotiating a contract the player will accept? She has control on this roster if she does not report to the GM.

 

[ONole1]

He already released a statement claiming what you are asking for.

His statement did not say Aponte would be reporting to him. Aponte controls this team and people that refuse to believe it are just looking through aqua colored glasses.

 

[Zounds]

Sooooo, if her or Philbin don't really want that player what is to stop her from not negotiating a contract the player will accept?

Because its her job? What do you think would happen to Philbin if he just decided not to coach on gameday. You dont do your job, you get fired.

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His statement did not say Aponte would be reporting to him. Aponte controls this team and people that refuse to believe it are just looking through aqua colored glasses.

:yap:

"Aponte controls the team blah blah blah"... I cant even take you seriously if you honestly believe that.

 

[ac_lanham]

Because its her job? What do you think would happen to Philbin if he just decided not to coach on gameday. You dont do your job, you get fired.

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:yap:

"Aponte controls the team blah blah blah"... I cant even take you seriously if you honestly believe that.

I see his point. Not attempting to sign a player to a contract in good faith is a lot easier to cover up than not coaching on game day. All it COULD take is the coach to say "I really don't like this player for whatever reason". The negotiator can simply say the player didn't like the contract and walk away. I hope Aponte and Philbin wouldn't operate that way, but nothing with this team would shock me

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[ohall]

Pats are actually more media friendly than the Dolphins. Everyone knows Belichick and Brady from their angry, one-liner, sulking post-game pressers. During the week it's a whole different story. Belichick stands up and answers every question, and he often goes into depth if he's not going to give anything away about his team. For instance, before the Patriots played the Dolphins in one of their meetings this season, Belichick was asked about the Miami defense and went into a fairly detailed response about how Miami likes to use A-Gap pressure and what that involves.

Joe Philbin stands up and says absolutely nothing. A reporter asks him a question and Joe says something like "Well, the coaching staff will make a determination this week when we do our evaluations." And he'll answer maybe five questions like that, say "Thanks, that's it," and walk out after three minutes. End of season press conference? Under ten minutes. Now I understand where he's coming from, because nobody should have to stand up there and listen to Adam "Lurch" Beasley tell them that they aren't doing their job right by refusing to comment on Mike Pouncey's pending grand jury testimony, but let's get real here, the Dolphins don't just have contempt for the press. They've got contempt for the fans with this kind of nonsense.

More or less is opinion. I don't view the Pats as a media friendly franchise. I don't think anyone is going to suggest that the Pats are friendly to the media.

 

[ONole1]

Because its her job? What do you think would happen to Philbin if he just decided not to coach on gameday. You dont do your job, you get fired.

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:yap:

"Aponte controls the team blah blah blah"... I cant even take you seriously if you honestly believe that.

OK MR Pushups...keep those blinders on...

 

[Canadianfishfan]

This reminds me of a chick I dated in my 20's. If I didn't call her back she would flip out and imagine I was off ****ing some other chick.

Oh she had all these theories as to why couldn't immediately return her calls on demand.

You see, this is what happens when people are left in the dark. They make **** up. They still believe the **** even when you tell them the truth.

 

[Zounds]

All it COULD take is the coach to say "I really don't like this player for whatever reason".

If the coach doesn't want a player, all he needs to do is say "I don't want this player on my team", and that player will not be on his team.

The whole undermining the GM by by not negotiating contracts in good faith in order to gain personnel leverage over a GM is just another conspiracy theory with so many holes in it, and its not even worth writing about.

 

[ONole1]

If the coach doesn't want a player, all he needs to do is say "I don't want this player on my team", and that player will not be on his team.

The whole undermining the GM by by not negotiating contracts in good faith in order to gain personnel leverage over a GM is just another conspiracy theory with so many holes in it, and its not even worth writing about.

Kinda like the capologist running to the coach about the GM complaining about the coaching huh? Crazy, could never happen...

 

[Zounds]

Kinda like the capologist running to the coach about the GM complaining about the coaching huh? Crazy, could never happen...

So you think Dawn Aponte is running the team because she buddied up with Philbn? What exactly are you trying to say here?