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Gus never given a fair shake to start since Washington?.. WRONG

SkapePhin said:
He didnt get injured.. His shoe came off, and his time was alreayd up so Saban called it a day.
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"After replacing an injured AJ Feeley, Gus Frerotte found Bryan Gilmore (pictured) for Miami's first score. "

He bruised his butt.
 
The Franchise said:
No, it means, Feeley got injured and the team rallied, it just so happens Frerotte came in and did what Feeley couldn't, move them down the field with the same players.




THey were playing with scrubs too.

We'll know as of game 2, if Frerotte can lead them down the field against Jacksonville, as a starter, then you'll have to admit Feeley isn't as good in this offense as Frerotte. If Frerotte does nothing and Feeley drives Miami's second team down, then they're even.
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Your lack of logic is astounding to me..

"They were playing with scrubs too."

A brilliant deduction Sherlock!
Now, follow this line of logic will you? They were playing with scrubs against scrubs.. Meaning, they have the skill set at the moment of a scrub. So, you take that scrub who played moderately well against other scrubs, and place them against studs, what occurs? Does the scrub become a stud? It occurs occasionally, Brady for instance made the conversion from Scrub to Stud.. but it wasnt overnight.. One cannot properly gauge a scrub's performance against other scrubs when applied to the theory they will perform the same way with the studs..

You entire statement is a non sequitur! It makes no sense!
 
The Franchise said:
"After replacing an injured AJ Feeley, Gus Frerotte found Bryan Gilmore (pictured) for Miami's first score. "

He bruised his butt.
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Thats not why he was out.. Saban and Feeley both stated this.. A Bruise isnt an injury.. The media played it that way, but it wasnt.. If AJ were the starter in a real game, he would have sat out a snap while he got his shoe on and walked back out there..
 
The Franchise said:
Feeley had either better talent or the same talent and played against either the same talent as Frerotte, Frerotte drove Miami down the field.



Feeley could have 20-21 150 yards, with his dink and dunks, no TD's and 0 INT's, Frerotte could have 5-8, 62 yards and 1 TD, Frerotte would have outplayed Feeley, it's not hard. Scoring points matters, neither had a running game, Feeley left the game, Miami was losing. Frerotte came in, Miami was winning.
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As I recall, at least 3 0r 4 of AJ's passes went about 15-20 yards in the air, including the rope to Thompson that went right through his hands.
 
Feeley has been a career long scrub. He couldn't even supplant Detmer in Philly. Miami giving up a second for him was a mistake made in a last ditch effort to save a job or two. You apparently think Feeley is the second coming of Marino and he's not, he's not even the second coming of Fiedler.
 
The Franchise said:
Feeley has been a career long scrub. He couldn't even supplant Detmer in Philly. Miami giving up a second for him was a mistake made in a last ditch effort to save a job.
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hahah.. And, as noted by my original post, as is Frerotte.. We got two scrubs! But one scrub who could POTENTIALLY become a non-scrub! And he did supplant Detmer as backup.. Reid even said so, AFTER the trade.
 
Sirspud said:
As I recall, at least 3 0r 4 of AJ's passes went about 15-20 yards in the air, including the rope to Thompson that went right through his hands.
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He had 35 yards passing and was 4-7. There is no way that many passes went 15-20 yards because he only had 35 yards and he completed 4 passes. It's illogical.

SkapePhin said:
hahah.. And, as noted by my original post, as is Frerotte.. We got two scrubs! But one scrub who could POTENTIALLY become a non-scrub! And he did supplant Detmer as backup.. Reid even said so, AFTER the trade.
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He's 28 years old! Reid is going to say that because they suckered us for a 2nd rounder, Reid even admitted that too!
 
The Franchise said:
He had 35 yards passing and was 4-7. There is no way that many passes went 15-20 yards because he only had 35 yards and he completed 4 passes. It's illogical.
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You never truly responded to my post about Frerotte's "slip to TD"... That made his stats.. and it was a MISTAKE.
 
SkapePhin said:
You never truly responded to my post about Frerotte's "slip to TD"... That made his stats.. and it was a MISTAKE.
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The immaculate reception was a mistake too, I don't see anyone saying that they sucked for it. Miami scored last night, that's all that matters to me. It was a mistake, but it turned out for the better. It could have gotten picked off and been a bad play, but Frerotte's performance would still be better than Feeley's.
 
The Franchise said:
The immaculate reception was a mistake too, I don't see anyone saying that they sucked for it. Miami scored last night, that's all that matters to me. It was a mistake, but it turned out for the better. It could have gotten picked off and been a bad play, but Frerotte's performance would still be better than Feeley's.
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Ok.. What would you say if that went for a TD the other way instead? It easily could have.. What then.. It doesnt matter?

Seriously.. Some serious logic deficiency going on here..

BTW, the immaculate reception was ILLEGAL at the time... The biggest hosejob in NFL history other than "the tuck rule" game.
 
Skapephin said:
Ok.. What would you say if that went for a TD the other way instead? It easily could have.. What then.. It doesnt matter?
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I've already answered the question: "It could have gotten picked off and been a bad play, but Frerotte's performance would still be better than Feeley's."

Skapephin said:
The biggest hosejob in NFL history other than "the tuck rule" game.
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The Steelers got what was coming to them. New England actually went on and won in another shame where they mugged the Rams, like they mugged the Colts a few years later.
 
:eat:

Some interesting drama playing out today. ;) Now get back at each others' throats! :whip2: :evil:
 
The Franchise said:
I've already answered the question: "It could have gotten picked off and been a bad play, but Frerotte's performance would still be better than Feeley's."



The Steelers got what was coming to them. New England actually went on and won in another shame where they mugged the Rams, like they mugged the Colts a few years later.
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:eek:

So if that went for an INT the other way his stats are still better than Feeley's last night?

Wow.. I dont know what to say.. but the stats clearly dispute such a possible outcome.
 
Neither guy would have drove the team down the field for a touchdown, in that scenario. As I said, we'll know more as of Saturday when Frerotte is with the 1st team and Feeley with the 2nd.
 
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