Ho Ho Ho!!! Phins Pass Blocking Not As Bad As Many Think

[Spiff]

I'm saying that the o-line is a ****ing disaster.

And you're right about that.

 

[So Be]

I'm saying that the o-line is a ****ing disaster.

Can you be any more vague? LOL

Have a MERRY!

 

[So Be]

Yes, but not in a vacuum. % of drops backs resulting in hurries by itself is meaningless if you do not understand the context. It makes no sense to compare the % of hurries against a QB who gets rid of the ball in 2.5 seconds on average with one that holds it for 3.5 seconds on average. The key point is THE STAT THAT YOU ARE USING DOES NOT DIFFERENTIATE. You have to look at the stats in conjunction with other data. It has already been pointed out in this thread that the QBs who are ranked near Tannehill in quickness are pressured much less than Tannehill. Now why would that be?



IMO, none have been very good but the play of the tackles has overshadowed everything else. Against the Bills, the interior of the line got abused. I have seen far too many collapsed pockets this season. I can't count how many times I saw 3 or 4 DL meet at the QB with all of our OL STANDING AND WATCHING!



IMO, both tackles and both guards will be replaced next season.

I give up. Why don't you explain how the OL SHOULD be rated and grated? PFF watched all 626 pass plays but, you know better in sorting out how the OL has played this year. Enlighten us all as to how?

 

[FinfanInBuffalo]

I give up. Why don't you explain how the OL SHOULD be rated and grated? PFF watched all 626 pass plays but, you know better in sorting out how the OL has played this year. Enlighten us all as to how?

I wish....

Why are you so desperate for a number? I'm fairly certain that the team will make their feelings known in the offseason when changes are made. I don't need a ranking to tell me that the line sucks this year.

Let me ask you something. If you saw the game on Sunday, did you need to read the box score to tell you that the line played poorly?

 

[NY8123]

Ho ho holy **** I'm drunk!!!

 

[DZimmer000]

This chart is WAY off..... We've allowed 58 sacks

 

[roy_miami]

Maybe Tannehill should call Ho - Ho Ho and trick the Defense

Would be so awesome. Then Philbin stand up at the presser and say "there, we changed it, you happy?"

 

[rent this space]

Imagine how bad these numbers would be if he didn't get the ball out so fast

 

[J. David Wannyheimer]

Southbeach, I'm not sure what the point of this thread is. Is it really to say that our OL isn't that bad?

I disagree, and in my previous posts, I listed some of the reasons why I disagree.

For the record, I think Tannehill's 'pocket management' is merely average -- I don't think he's particularly great at it. But right now, it is stunning to me that anyone can argue that our pass protection isn't terrible. And that's not just the OL -- Daniel Thomas and Lamar Miller have both been terrible as pass blockers. See this past Sunday when Thomas actually wound up being the guy who sacked Tannehill.

 

[enigmatics]

Always cracks me up when this conversation deviates to arguments over FRACTIONS of a second.

 

[Despacio]

These numbers are all dismissed the second you put the tape of that Bills game on. Horrendous.


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[Strangeworld]

Tanny has poor pocket presence/awareness.

He lacks innate feel for pressure...

I don't need stats telling me that which is patently obvious to anyone not watching through Homer glasses.

 

[LDaniel7]

Anyone who can watch an OL get thoroughly dominated and epically owned for an entire game -- to the level that the Phins OL did on Sunday -- and the next week post a thread about how the OL isn't that bad... well, um... uh. WOW.

You have to watch games for a decade to see an OL completely whipped like Miami's was on Sunday. THIS IS THE NFL in an age of parity. OLs don't get utterly used that way.

Except for Miami's. Last Sunday. And... Miami's OL gets massively exposed against top-ten D lines. No other way around it.

LD

 

[Shouright]

The correlation between PFF's pass blocking efficiency statistic and the percentage of passing plays in which the QB is pressured is an unbelievable -1.0. A perfect correlation. The more a QB is pressured, the worse PFF's pass blocking efficiency statistic.

The correlation between the time the ball is thrown in (as measured by PFF) and PFF's pass blocking efficiency statistic is -0.06. In other words, there is no relationship at all between how long after the snap the ball is thrown and PFF's assessment of pass blocking efficiency.

According to PFF, 5 of the Dolphins' 58 sacks this season have occurred in 2.5 seconds or fewer after the snap.

According to PFF, Ryan Tannehill has been sacked on average 3.8 seconds after the snap, which is 0.195 seconds faster than the average QB and isn't significantly different statistically from the league norm.

 

[ProStyle]

But right now, it is stunning to me that anyone can argue that our pass protection isn't terrible. l.

This piece of evidence goes to show that it is average and not terrible, and certainly not the worst in the NFL or the worst in the history as some believe.