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There is no other potential offset for personnel deficiencies when it comes to the oline other than outright personnel changes more valuable than tempo

some examples...today seattle is dead in the water on o vs that carolina d til they go to the no huddle fast tempo on offense...its 31 to 0 they lost their left tackle the oline is getting wrecked bevell goes to the tempo offense and the game flips pretty much...carolina after playing with tempo in the first half no doubt in an effort to limit seattles defense which is as legit as they come plays with tempo and gets up big...2nd half mike shula huddles up entire rest of game is trying to milk the clock and playing not to lose and they almost ended up losing because of it...bevell on the other hand down big plays to win...one played to win the others nuts shriveled up

last week green bay at washington missing their starting left tackle is dead in the water til mike mccarty calls for tempo game flips...this week green bay gets its left tackle back rodgers has time pack stays in game entire way

Personnel deficiencies on offense particularly when it comes to the oline are overcome by tempo as much as they are scheme and qb movement/usage/pocket presence

That doesnt mean we have to go no huddle every snap but it does mean unless the balls incomplete or out of bounds you play with urgency...i have seen teams get murdered up front for halves shift to a fast no huddle tempo gas the opposition to the point where later in the game even you can shift back to huddling up and keep the qb clean cause the defense has nothing left in the tank...you have to adjust to the flow of the game

miami plays a murderers row of defensive fronts in the afc east...its likely we will be undermanned on the oline vs these teams next year if not the entire year adam gase is considered a qb guru and offensive innovator he has an entire offseason to install his offensive concepts there is absolutely zero reason next season should we find ourselves outgunned up front in a game due to personnel attrition or just the flow of the game even adam gase should not counter with tempo

we damn well better see it
 
You aren't throwing enough credit to the QB in these situations . . . both of these guys are head and shoulders above ours in regards to pocket awareness and playing in those type of situations. Their experience aided them just as much as the switch to no tempo.

I agree, the switch definitely was a key factor in both comebacks, and our guy has shown that he has some comfort when we pick up the pace in "no huddle" situations . . . hopefully Gase doesn't nuter him like Lazor did.
 
If Gase is smart, which everyone says he is, then he will see that tannehill plays SOOO much better in an uptempo offense. I for the life of me couldn't figure out why he hasn't been used almost exclusively in uptwmpo and rollouts. He excels at both. I suppose its trying to make him more complete?
 
Kdawg954 said:
You aren't throwing enough credit to the QB in these situations . . . both of these guys are head and shoulders above ours in regards to pocket awareness and playing in those type of situations. Their experience aided them just as much as the switch to no tempo.

I agree, the switch definitely was a key factor in both comebacks, and our guy has shown that he has some comfort when we pick up the pace in "no huddle" situations . . . hopefully Gase doesn't nuter him like Lazor did.
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The QB may be better but Ryan can benefit from tempo.

We just saw that in the last game of the year against NE correct?
 
Albert Romano said:
The QB may be better but Ryan can benefit from tempo.

We just saw that in the last game of the year against NE correct?
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I dont mean 3 plays and then you get away from it...i mean a commitment and where it is a easy transition for the offense

It should be a given frankly im not trying to reinvent the wheel here but as lazor showed nothing is a given...if gase is all hes cracked up to be he will have offsets for personnel deficiencies...when it comes to oline however short of personnel changes tempo is the only bullet in the chamber...we better fire it
 
hooshoops said:
I dont mean 3 plays and then you get away from it...i mean a commitment and where it is a easy transition for the offense

It should be a given frankly im not trying to reinvent the wheel here but as lazor showed nothing is a given...if gase is all hes cracked up to be he will have offsets for personnel deficiencies...when it comes to oline however short of personnel changes tempo is the only bullet in the chamber...we better fire it
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I only see two downsides with it if you run it alot.

False start penalties, have to be discipliied look at how many penalties the Eagels had running tempo flipside is teams like NE do it well.

The other issue is if you dont convert first downs your throwing the defense right back out there.
 
Albert Romano said:
I only see two downsides with it if you run it alot.

False start penalties, have to be discipliied look at how many penalties the Eagels had running tempo flipside is teams like NE do it well.

The other issue is if you dont convert first downs your throwing the defense right back out there.
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I don't buy this argument about penalties. Our OL was a trainwreck of penalties and we set one hell of a sluggish pace.
 
Tempo sounds great, until it doesn't work and you just end up putting your defense right back on the field.

Philly found that out the hard way this season.
 
J. David Wannyheimer said:
I don't buy this argument about penalties. Our OL was a trainwreck of penalties and we set one hell of a sluggish pace.
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No doubt they had tons of penalties but could you imagine if went up tempo all the time? Think there would be even more - we dont come accross as the most disciplined team, will need to fix that if were going to run tempo often. I do hope we do some of it though like we were led to believe we would see under Lazor.
 
xXwarXx said:
Tempo sounds great, until it doesn't work and you just end up putting your defense right back on the field.

Philly found that out the hard way this season.
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Well it helps to have a carolina or seattle level d which miami doesnt and wont have in 2016...but that said using philly as an example is rediculous

Using any o that neuters the qb as an example is
 
Well we know for a fact that Gase is committed to working on what Tannehill does best. Gase has been around Manning as has Christensen. Someone made a great point in another thread that Gase isn't just hiring cronies. There is a commonality but they come from different places. Gase got himself an esteemed guy in Christensen.

We know Gase is studying every nook and cranny of Tannehill's game to get what works best and what doesn't. Tempo is a great point and something Tannehill can do. Another point is that Tannehill is a stud on the move. We need to see more of that. Commit to a running game - good grief. I think you will see that as both Gase and Christensen have understood that in their respective past experiences. Tannehill can throw downfield. I don't think you will see the absurd overweighting of Landry. You also won't see the low percentage fade in the red zone when there are so many higher percentage options.

We also know that Christensen studies defensive coordinator tendencies to extreme levels. That may seem obvious except what really matters is adjusting to what you see both in game plan and in pre snap reads without neutering your quarterback. We know Gase and Christensen love pre-snap adjustments based on their defensive coordinator study and want the qb able to adjust on the fly. Tannehill proved adept at that once given the opportunity. Tannehill is a worker. He's going to get in there with Christensen and Gase.

If Rex and Bowles want to blitz, you make them pay, you don't cower. the whole approach can be different.

There is tremendous opportunity to improve the PPG.
 
Albert Romano said:
No doubt they had tons of penalties but could you imagine if went up tempo all the time? Think there would be even more - we dont come accross as the most disciplined team, will need to fix that if were going to run tempo often. I do hope we do some of it though like we were led to believe we would see under Lazor.
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Again im not saying full no huddle im saying when you are missing personnel due to attrition or getting your ass kicked in game up front light bulb should go off that you need to change up how you will go about things the rest of that game at least...you adjust to the opposition going forward and in game also

If gase is legit he will not only from scheme but tempo as well

The penalties thing is more about preparation and individual brain farts than anything else...i assume gase if as advertised eliminates that...he already got rid of half the problem
 
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