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How are we gonna rush the passer?

Well, I know its not Robinsons fault and unfair to him.

However, if our pass protection struggles to start the season, that pick will be be highly critiscized if he's not productive.

He doesn't need that pressure.

Robinson can make posters like myself forget about Morgan/ Barton with a very disruptive game against Buffalo week 2 leading to a win
 
Carne Asada said:
On week 1 w Shaq Barrett, Chop, Kamara and a UDFA or two as our pass rushers?

I think we might not even try.

I think we're gonna go man on all 5 their skills and we're gonna put 3 men deep on top.

I think we're just gonna rush 3 all game.
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You can't be that one dimensional for an entire game. If Weaver doesn't adjust and/or call plays situationally, we have hired the wrong guy.......again.

That philosophy also is diametrically opposed to what we have been told so far.
 
I’m expecting a big drop off in sacks until Phillips and Chubb are 100% healthy.

Barrett isn’t close to the player he was a few years ago. So I’m not expecting much from him in regards to sacks.

Robinson wasn’t a big sack producer in college. So I really don’t see why anyone would expect him to come in as a rookie and get many sacks. Whether he will even be able to go against NFL tackles and provide pressure still needs to be proven.

I think Kamara would be a player that would normally be a bottom of the roster or a PS player if Phillips and Chubb were healthy. He will get the opportunity to show if he is an NFL caliber player because they aren’t healthy at this time but I don’t see Kamara putting on a lot of pressure at this stage of his career.

The loss of Wilkins is also going to seriously hamper the pass rush up the middle. Other than Sieler, I don’t see a defensive lineman who is going to be able to provide pressure up the middle on a consistent basis.

I don’t know if Weaver is going to use his inside LB’s or secondary players to blitz much but unfortunately using the blitz to pressure the QB might end up being the only way they will create pressure without Phillips and Chubb in the lineup.
 
1972forever said:
I’m expecting a big drop off in sacks until Phillips and Chubb are 100% healthy.

Barrett isn’t close to the player he was a few years ago. So I’m not expecting much from him in regards to sacks.

Robinson wasn’t a big sack producer in college. So I really don’t see why anyone would expect him to come in as a rookie and get many sacks. Whether he will even be able to go against NFL tackles and provide pressure still needs to be proven.

I think Kamara would be a player that would normally be a bottom of the roster or a PS player if Phillips and Chubb were healthy. He will get the opportunity to show if he is an NFL caliber player because they aren’t healthy at this time but I don’t see Kamara putting on a lot of pressure at this stage of his career.

The loss of Wilkins is also going to seriously hamper the pass rush up the middle. Other than Sieler, I don’t see a defensive lineman who is going to be able to provide pressure up the middle on a consistent basis.

I don’t know if Weaver is going to use his inside LB’s or secondary players to blitz much but unfortunately using the blitz to pressure the QB might end up being the only way they will create pressure without Phillips and Chubb in the lineup.
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Bingo! Agree!!
 
Avigatorx said:
There will be some growing pains for sure. Hopefully we will se them start to click by week 5.

Before then I think it will all come down to whether they can create turnovers or not. No Turnovers and it will be ugly. Get our offense more possessions and we can keep score with anyone.
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Agree. Early season, the offense will have to do most of the heavy lifting. Most likely.
 
Carne Asada said:
On week 1 w Shaq Barrett, Chop, Kamara and a UDFA or two as our pass rushers?

I think we might not even try.

I think we're gonna go man on all 5 their skills and we're gonna put 3 men deep on top.

I think we're just gonna rush 3 all game.
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Plan 1. An individual steps up and surprises.
Plan 2. The DC schemes for the talent he has.
 
gregorygrant83 said:
I think Phillips will be back for the beginning of the season. Chubb might wait until after the bye week. Overall I think Miami is in a better position to pressure the qb than they were in 2023 and they were toward the league leaders in sacks and prssures.
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i've been saying this since march since I saw some stuff, I've followed his progress and updates that have been available, videoe etc, I do not believe he will be ready.
 
Anyone thinking both Phillips and Chubb were going to be completely healthy and ready for week one, are fools. It would take a miracle. The question is, Can Robinson, Kamara and any other rookie or young vet step up. That's a big ask.
 
1972forever said:
I’m expecting a big drop off in sacks until Phillips and Chubb are 100% healthy.

Barrett isn’t close to the player he was a few years ago. So I’m not expecting much from him in regards to sacks.

Robinson wasn’t a big sack producer in college. So I really don’t see why anyone would expect him to come in as a rookie and get many sacks. Whether he will even be able to go against NFL tackles and provide pressure still needs to be proven.

I think Kamara would be a player that would normally be a bottom of the roster or a PS player if Phillips and Chubb were healthy. He will get the opportunity to show if he is an NFL caliber player because they aren’t healthy at this time but I don’t see Kamara putting on a lot of pressure at this stage of his career.

The loss of Wilkins is also going to seriously hamper the pass rush up the middle. Other than Sieler, I don’t see a defensive lineman who is going to be able to provide pressure up the middle on a consistent basis.

I don’t know if Weaver is going to use his inside LB’s or secondary players to blitz much but unfortunately using the blitz to pressure the QB might end up being the only way they will create pressure without Phillips and Chubb in the lineup.
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Robinson will be a monster in the NFL. The issue with college is you have certain standout players so teams can scheme for certain players. You can’t do that to the same extent int he nfl because just about every starter is that one player that college teams were scheming against.

If you watch robinson’s tape he was still creating havoc but it was clear qb’s where told to get the ball out quickly and almost always he had double teams.

With that said if weaver’s scheme is similar to the ravens they didn’t just rely on edge rushers. They often blitzed their middle linebackers/ safeties and corners to create pressure.
 
Mach2 said:
You can't be that one dimensional for an entire game. If Weaver doesn't adjust and/or call plays situationally, we have hired the wrong guy.......again.

That philosophy also is diametrically opposed to what we have been told so far.
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This team will get more "schemed" pressures and sacks than Fangio's defense. I expect to see more stunts and twists up front and more blitzing from the linebackers and secondary. I'm fairly confident that Weaver will find a way to apply pressure. Fangio played a more straight up defense without many wrinkles. I really wasn't a big fan.
 
MARINO1384 said:
Robinson will be a monster in the NFL. The issue with college is you have certain standout players so teams can scheme for certain players. You can’t do that to the same extent int he nfl because just about every starter is that one player that college teams were scheming against.

If you watch robinson’s tape he was still creating havoc but it was clear qb’s where told to get the ball out quickly and almost always he had double teams.

With that said if weaver’s scheme is similar to the ravens they didn’t just rely on edge rushers. They often blitzed their middle linebackers/ safeties and corners to create pressure.
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He will also be going up against NFL players instead of the patchwork array of talent he faced in college.

If he had more production against college players Id share your faith, but as it stands, im not expecting much.
 
Chop Robinson
Shaq Barrett
Kamara
D. Hand
G. Murphy
J. Harris.

4 speed rushers, 2 5-tech power ends for run defense and versatility to kick inside
 
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