How many here still want to say Richie is the victim

[roy_miami]

My point is that everyone has been bullied. Some of his statements that he has made tend to make him seem come off as a bully as well. If you've been bullied, you should know how it feels, which makes the act of bullying another person even more ignorant. Understand, Roy?

That is true, 99% of people have either been bullied or have been bullies and most people have been both. In fact, most have been both simultaneously and not only does being the victim not make you less likely to be a bully, it actually makes it more likely.

 

[Scrap]

But does it make it right?

 

[Vaark]

So how many members do you reckon this site has that do not pay to be in the VIP? Of course (according to your mindset) you are more important than all of them to this website. Does this site have any advertisements on it? Would you advertise on a site nobody goes to? Oh, and for the record, I gave money before Andrew ever sold it, but I never once believed I deserved a cookie for it.

I guess you also equate being a man to a dollar figure. Is that correct? Wow, you can't refute my good points so you grasp at straws for anything... ANYTHING... to take away from your failed theories of what it takes to be a man. Put down the fork and enjoy your life. I'll let it go. I wouldn't want to continue making good points for fear that some internet genius named Roy might confuse it for bullying you.

LMAO@"good points" You're more fun than a barrel of monkeys :up: But at least you're consistent in missing the nuances, as unsubtle as they are. I was just noting the irony that my appreciation for the site $upports$ your opportunities to demean my opinions and spout your judgmental BS

 

[roy_miami]

I would also add that being bullied is an understandable but irrational feeling for most adolescents which should go away as you become an adult. Martin definitely felt harassed/bullied but were those feelings rational?

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But does it make it right?

It's just human nature.

 

[ED AminJoeGreen]

That's a load of crap. Turner may have done some idiotic things but now you're being ridiculous. The fine is meant to make players accountable and not "blame the other guy."

Check out page 41 & 42 of the report or search for "Judas" and see the information on being fined by teammates for pointing out during film study that the coach was in error on assessing who missed a block. Page 42 speaks on whether Turner instituted this or implicitly advocated this. I read as the opposite of what you are saying it appears that the OLine setup a system so they actually would not be accountable. Am I completely misreading the report?

 

[Scrap]

LMAO@"good points" You're more fun than a barrel of monkeys :up: But at least you're consistent in missing the nuances, as unsubtle as they are. I was just noting the irony that my appreciation for the site $upports$ your opportunities to demean my opinions and spout your judgmental BS

Translation: Scrap, you are right. I have no response. Now let me go make another juvenile picture in an attempt to put you down. Hopefully my picture editing skills will impress someone.

You know, like nunchuck skills, bowhunting skills, computer hacking skills... Girls only want boyfriends who have great skills.--Napoleon Dynamite

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I would also add that being bullied is an understandable but irrational feeling for most adolescents which should go away as you become an adult. Martin definitely felt harassed/bullied but were those feelings rational?

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It's just human nature.

Based on the report? Maybe not.

 

[Vaark]

Translation: Scrap, you are right. I have no response. Now let me go make another juvenile picture in an attempt to put you down. Hopefully my picture editing skills will impress someone.

You know, like nunchuck skills, bowhunting skills, computer hacking skills... Girls only want boyfriends who have great skills.--Napoleon Dynamite

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Based on the report? Maybe not.

I guess beauty is in the eye of the beholder, especially when you're looking through a funhouse mirror (probably emphasizes your "good points" too)

FWIW, I was chuckling when doing one of those graphics so my long time GF came over to check it out and read everything in context. From a woman's perspective who's known me for years, her comment was "looks like he was more likely to be a petticoat wearer than you ever being a bully." :up:

I seem to now remember you, aren't you the critic from Podunk VA who used to rail about how we in SoFL don't deserve the Fins, yet admitted that you never go to games, pay parking, concessions, buy licensed jerseys etc, essentially do nothing financial to support the team other than pissing and moaning about those who do? Well at least when in comes to staying in character, you're consistent. :up: Would you like me to buy you a month of Supporter status to start you off? If it feels right supporting an ever-cash strapped site you probably never have in over 13 years, maybe family will help you out. )

 

[spiketex]

If you fellas think this is bad you would never make it in the military now and definitely not 10 years ago. Hell I hear more than what was said in my office and I'm not even in maintenance or a cop. Martin is a BIG *****. So as others have said, the continuance of the pusification of America. Keep giving up you rights and bitching about dumb **** folks, worry about that color you don't like and want taken out of school or removing god from the dollar bill......We'll be taken over by China in 10 years cause no one wants their feeling hurt....

I know that I would never have made it in the military but there is still no place for the abuse that J-Mart, player A and the Asian assistant trainer received. You talk about the pussificiation of America but I would argue that the all players signed off on behavior standards. Please read the full report and I welcome your feedback if you still believe that Incognito, Jerry and Pouncey did nothing wrong. Their actions have brought disgrace to our team. The world has moved on and it is not appropriate to treat people in this way. I welcome your feedback after you read the 144 pages in the report.

 

[Scrap]

I guess beauty is in the eye of the beholder, especially when you're looking through a funhouse mirror (probably emphasizes your "good points" too)

FWIW, I was chuckling when doing one of those graphics so my long time GF came over to check it out and read everything in context. From a woman's perspective who's known me for years, her comment was "looks like he was more likely to be a petticoat wearer than you ever being a bully." :up:

I seem to now remember you, aren't you the critic from Podunk VA who used to rail about how we in SoFL don't deserve the Fins, yet admitted that you never go to games, pay parking, concessions, buy licensed jerseys etc, essentially do nothing financial to support the team other than pissing and moaning about those who do? Well at least when in comes to staying in character, you're consistent. :up: Would you like me to buy you a month of Supporter status to start you off? If it feels right supporting an ever-cash strapped site you probably never have in over 13 years, maybe family will help you out. )

I really have no value for your girlfriend's opinion, or yours for that matter. At least you, your plumber, the cable guy, the local trash collector, and your pets respect what she has to say. Your all probably getting the same thing out of her. I guess she had to say something. You had a fork in your hand. How's your medicine taste?

 

[Finland]

This the truth.

What happened to Parcell's and Sparano's philosophy of drafting tough smart players?

I didn't have it in for Ireland like most of the posters around here when he was our GM, but IMHO this is by far the worst thing he did when he was working here

What happened to getting "good character" guys as well. Seems we like to let those guys go actually.

 

[PrOpAiN]

I can't wait to hear the next witty comeback, and then the subsequent comeback to the comeback of the response to the original post. The suspense is killing me... I keep refreshing waiting... Waiting...

 

[Vaark]

I really have no value for your girlfriend's opinion, or yours for that matter. At least you, your plumber, the cable guy, the local trash collector, and your pets respect what she has to say. Your all probably getting the same thing out of her. I guess she had to say something. You had a fork in your hand. How's your medicine taste?

Well haven't we become the petulant little princess?

While having done the cyber-equivalent of depositing you on the Holland Tunnel commuter tranny stroll in knee-high vinyl boots and Fredericks of Hollywood "couture" there's really not much more fun to have. So wading back into this morass of deconstruction, perhaps we can salvage the observation that those who identifiy personally with so-called "victims" that go through life expecting others to build their backbones by osmosis, when challenged, devolve into vacuum-visioned stereotyping and the ratcheting up of rancorous insults in a direct correlation to home-hitting nerves struck. So there's that.

 

[JTC111]

You must be a chick. This is Alpha male stuff that you women will never understand.

Groping a woman with a golf club is alpha male stuff?
Making racist and insulting remarks to an assistant trainer is alpha male stuff?
That isn't alpha male stuff; that's douche-bag stuff.
And sitting at home trying to assert your manhood via keyboard isn't alpha male stuff either.

 

[NY8123]

The whole line is a bunch of ****tards. Martin, Incognito, Pouncey, Jerry......**** can them all. Bunch of morons all of them.

 

[dolphindan1970]

If you fellas think this is bad you would never make it in the military now and definitely not 10 years ago. Hell I hear more than what was said in my office and I'm not even in maintenance or a cop. Martin is a BIG *****. So as others have said, the continuance of the pusification of America. Keep giving up you rights and bitching about dumb **** folks, worry about that color you don't like and want taken out of school or removing god from the dollar bill......We'll be taken over by China in 10 years cause no one wants their feeling hurt....

First of all,I am an ex cop,a former Deputy Sheriff for that matter,and I have seen it all,and then some. And for what it's worth,comments like yours are about as idiotic as it gets !

Its about ALL INCOGNITO has done in his career,it's called a "pattern" ! lol Its called being a bully,punk ass bitch ! That thinks because he's got a few muscles,and a LOUD ass mouth and alot of money that he can run over people,like the girlo maybe he was suppose to have sexually harrassed,but to my understanding basically was paid off or something to let it drop,or how[ever she went away. Bullies think most people will say nothing,that there to afraid,that they will cower,and that they will get away with anything !

Nobody believes in God more than me,went to church for years,and maybe not where I should be right now,but love God and how anyone can sith there and say what you do is stupid to me ! I dont believe in taking God out of schools,or off the dolar bill,or taking the 10 commandments out of schol either for that matter ! And I most certainly dont believe its right to let some big loud mouth,muscle bound punk run his mouth and bully people around,and sexually assault,or harass (alledgedly for reasons we all know why you need to say that), a woman !


Martin had a right to do what he did. Had it been me,I would have busted him over the dam head with a 2 by 4 or worse (and thats not the internet talking). All the stuff Incognito said about his mom and sister even crossed a line ! Some people are cival,or try to be ! Like I said,Incognito is a punk and bully,I personally hbope's he never makes another dime in the NFL,he's been exposed for what he is,what I cant believe is how some people still even back him ?!!!