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How many sacks will taylor get

nyjunc said:
Kevin Carter's better days were a LONG time ago, he hasn't seen 10 sacks since '02 and in his last 4 years he has 23.5 sacks and has played every game of every season. That's less than 6 sacks a season.


He's had more to worry about than just pressuring the QB from the DT position. while, i agree he's probably not going to blow up on the field this year as a passrusher, you can't discredit him without acknowledging that he hasn't played a passrushing DE in quite a while. Nice try.
 
ch19079 said:
DE JT: 11.5 maybe 12
DE Holliday: 2 (Backup)
DE Bowens: 5
DE Roth: 1.5 (ROOKIE WILL BE SHARING PLAYING TIME)
DT Carter: 2.5
DT Zgonina: 3
DT Traylor: 0.5 (Backup)


hah, this isn't the bills defensive line we're talking about. we can apply pressure.
 
LarryFinFan said:
The last time he had 10 sacks he had the Freak at his opposite side and healthy...Since that time, the Freak was injured for parts of the year and then left via FA last year...So, now with Taylor on the opposite side, he could have another good year...also, he wont' have as many sacks playing the tackle spot as when he played the end spot in Tenn, several years ago...

The last time Carter had 10 sacks Kearse was injured and had 2 sacks in 2002.

i like that part "and has played every game of every season", 6 sacks a year is sure better than 3 sacks in 4 years by your 1st round bust called bryan thomas

thomas is playing behind 2 pro bowlers at DE and when Abe got hurt he filled in quite nicely.

Bounce back?? In regards to Carter; please stop lookin in the past because Carter never been part of a great Defense like ours..He will get double digit sacks this year..

Great defense? Give me a break. Miami's D's have been overrated for a long time and he played on a top 5 D in SL that WON a SB which is something this "great" Miami D has never come close to doing.
 
nyjunc said:
Great defense? Give me a break. Miami's D's have been overrated for a long time and he played on a top 5 D in SL that WON a SB which is something this "great" Miami D has never come close to doing.

Yeah that pourous smog must going straight to your head - St. Louis' D definitely didn't win them a Superbowl. A Superbowl win consists of 19 or 20 games.
 
GrnMtnMan said:
Yeah that pourous smog must going straight to your head - St. Louis' D definitely didn't win them a Superbowl. A Superbowl win consists of 19 or 20 games.

They did win the SB in 1999, right? SL's O gets all the credit but they had a big time D(something Miami hasn't truly been since the 70s) that gave up 22 points to TB & Ten in the NFC Title Game and SB.
 
nyjunc said:
Great defense? Give me a break. Miami's D's have been overrated for a long time .

Overrated? What are you talking about? I guess I would need to know how you measure a "great" defense. Why would you say that Miami's D is overrated?
 
nyjunc said:
Kevin Carter's better days were a LONG time ago, he hasn't seen 10 sacks since '02 and in his last 4 years he has 23.5 sacks and has played every game of every season. That's less than 6 sacks a season.

I'd have to say '01 was an anomaly - if you throw out that year (2 sacks) he's averaged 9 sacks a year for his career. Over the last 5 years he's averaged pretty much 7 sacks a year. Granted in Miami's "overrated" D he may have a hard time shedding that single blocker he'll be lining up against. Because we all know that Taylor will be drawing the double team. My guess is he gets his normal 7 or 8 sacks with the opportunity to notch 10-11.
 
GrnMtnMan said:
Overrated? What are you talking about? I guess I would need to know how you measure a "great" defense. Why would you say that Miami's D is overrated?

One that doesn't fold in big games like this Miami D has ALWAYS done in the last decade. What you do in Sept and Oct is fine but Dec and Jan are more important and you can name game after game every year since about '97 where they were smacked around in a big spot.

'97- losing a 41-0 game against Indy in Week 16.
'98- Hadn't given up a point at home all season but in biggest game of year(to that point) the Jets come in and take control early and win a huge Sun Night game.
Also thrashed 38-3 at Denver in playoffs. That's big time, down 14-0 in the 1st qtr.
'99- lost twice to Ray Lucas led Jets giving up 28 and 38 points.
thrashed even worse than Denver in playoffs losing 62-7 to jax and were down 24-0 in 1st qtr.
'00- gave up 24 points to 5-11 NE in final week, luckily O scored 27. Lost 27-0 to Oak in playoffs, down 20-0 at half.
'01-lost 20-3 to Bal at home in playoffs.
'02-lost at Minny w/ big lead late(6 win Minny) and then collapsed at NE w/ the div title on the line.
'03- lost back to back games to knock them out of playoffs vs. NE and Philly giving up 34 at home to Philly(a season high for the Eagles). But they did win the 2 "big" games the next 2 weeks against the 6-10 Bills and Jets.


I dont care what the rabkings say, D's are judged come crunchtime and your D has never stepped up in big games.
 
GrnMtnMan said:
I'd have to say '01 was an anomaly - if you throw out that year (2 sacks) he's averaged 9 sacks a year for his career. Over the last 5 years he's averaged pretty much 7 sacks a year. Granted in Miami's "overrated" D he may have a hard time shedding that single blocker he'll be lining up against. Because we all know that Taylor will be drawing the double team. My guess is he gets his normal 7 or 8 sacks with the opportunity to notch 10-11.

If you throw out the 2 then we have to throw out the 17 b/c he hasn't come close to that any other year. I'd expect 5-8 sacks from him.
 
nyjunc said:
One that doesn't fold in big games like this Miami D has ALWAYS done in the last decade. What you do in Sept and Oct is fine but Dec and Jan are more important and you can name game after game every year since about '97 where they were smacked around in a big spot.

'97- losing a 41-0 game against Indy in Week 16.
'98- Hadn't given up a point at home all season but in biggest game of year(to that point) the Jets come in and take control early and win a huge Sun Night game.
Also thrashed 38-3 at Denver in playoffs. That's big time, down 14-0 in the 1st qtr.
'99- lost twice to Ray Lucas led Jets giving up 28 and 38 points.
thrashed even worse than Denver in playoffs losing 62-7 to jax and were down 24-0 in 1st qtr.
'00- gave up 24 points to 5-11 NE in final week, luckily O scored 27. Lost 27-0 to Oak in playoffs, down 20-0 at half.
'01-lost 20-3 to Bal at home in playoffs.
'02-lost at Minny w/ big lead late(6 win Minny) and then collapsed at NE w/ the div title on the line.
'03- lost back to back games to knock them out of playoffs vs. NE and Philly giving up 34 at home to Philly(a season high for the Eagles). But they did win the 2 "big" games the next 2 weeks against the 6-10 Bills and Jets.


I dont care what the rabkings say, D's are judged come crunchtime and your D has never stepped up in big games.

There's one fairly common theme here, late in the season break downs. Wonder if that could be attributed to our outstanding offense. You were kind enough to post our offensive prowess during those games too. Now if you're down in a "must-win" game do you try to take chances and make some plays or sit back in a zone?
 
TakeIt2DaHouse said:
i see somewhere in the range of 12-17 sacks along with the most qb pressures in the league and a pro bowl start.

You know that's the best thing. Even if Taylor only got 5 sacks (but he will get plenty more) he would be near the QB almost every play , literally. And he would ruin any qb's day and disrupt like crazy reaching out and grabbing with those long arms and that motor!
 
GrnMtnMan said:
There's one fairly common theme here, late in the season break downs. Wonder if that could be attributed to our outstanding offense. You were kind enough to post our offensive prowess during those games too. Now if you're down in a "must-win" game do you try to take chances and make some plays or sit back in a zone?

The Ravens didn't have an offense either and they managed to keep it going throught he playoffs, also the Bucs in '99 had no O and they lost in the title game but held SL to 11 points.
 
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