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Thank you #54...
Spielman was in charge of one draft...last years. He did a good job in last years draft.
Before that he was a scout. All he could do was RECOMMEND players to Idiotstedt.
Spielman's tenure as G.M. will be judged on 3 things. The A.J. Feeley trade, the Wally Ogunleye trade and the Vernonn Carey draft pick.
Let's look at these three events from my point of view:
Feeley: "He overpaid for a 3rd stringer!" is the common theme around here. First of all Feeley was not a third stringer. If McNabb ever got hurt for an extended length of time Feeley was the guy.
Spielman looked at our quarterback position and saw a wasteland. No backup, no future and a starter that had already proven he could'nt lead the team anywhere.
He saw his options. He was'nt going to be able to draft one of the top guys (Losman, Rivers, Manning or Big Ben) and had to do something. Feeley ws highly thought of in a lot of circles around the league. There is a reason the Eagles put a first round tender on the guy. The Eagles don't overpay for anyone yet they found it neccasary to put a tender onn a guy that would overpay him. I think I trust the Eagles front office's judgement more then the "I hate Feeley" crowd around here.
"A 2nd rounder is too much!!!!!"
THROUGHOUT THE HISTORY of the NFL Q.B.'s are always overvalued (see Rob Johnson, Matt Hasselbeck, Mark Brunell, just to name recent history).
Rick did'nt know we woyuld be picking that high. I'm damn sure he thought it would be a 2nd rounder that was almost a 3rd (we'd be picking in the mid 20's)
Wannstedt screwed Feeley. We all know Feeley had ZERO chance to be starter coming out of training camp.
The biggest mistake Spielman mae was allowing Idiotstedt to talk him into resigning Fiedler. That put a steak through the heart of Feeley's development for half a season.
Rick took a risk, something that Wanny would never do. The book is far from closed on this transaction.
Wally Ogunleye: He got a high third rounder and Marty Booker for Wally. Wally was'nt going to play here again. He wanted Jason Taylor money. We already had a massive inbalance of salary cap space allocated to the defensive side of the ball and signing Wally was not in the cards.
Ogunleye was not worth J.T. money. Yes, Wally is a good player but he is not a top 5 defensive end so paying him out would have made no sense.
Wally was going to hold out, sign the tender to get his year in (week 10) and then be unrestricted. Yes, we could have franchised him but that price tag would have been worse then the contract he wanted and it would have been a one year fix...he was going to walk.
Spielman got something instead of nothing.
Vernon Carey: With the exception of VERY FEW POSTERS ON THIS BOARD who wanted Wilfork (it sure seems those people have come out of the woodwork even though I recall at the time very few wanted him over Carey) Carey was the best option for us at the time.
"We need O-line, we NEED O-LINE!!!!!" was the common phrase screamed from the rooftops around here. Could you imagine the roasting Rick would have recieved if he took a D-lineman over an O-lineman? It is revisionist history to say "Wilfork was the pick".
Carey got screwed over last year. He had an idiot for an O-line coach, a head coach who changed his position twice before he played a snap and then changed it again. Wannstedt had no intention of giving Carey a chance.
B.T.W....when Carey did play last year I thought he was pretty good. To call him a bust already is absurd.
In closing I'll just say that good scouts are hard to find and Spielman is a good scout. He'll be hired quickly because teams know this. It's a shame he is thought of in the same breath as Idiotstedt.
I wish Rick luck now that he is out of that loser's shadow.
Before that he was a scout. All he could do was RECOMMEND players to Idiotstedt.
Spielman's tenure as G.M. will be judged on 3 things. The A.J. Feeley trade, the Wally Ogunleye trade and the Vernonn Carey draft pick.
Let's look at these three events from my point of view:
Feeley: "He overpaid for a 3rd stringer!" is the common theme around here. First of all Feeley was not a third stringer. If McNabb ever got hurt for an extended length of time Feeley was the guy.
Spielman looked at our quarterback position and saw a wasteland. No backup, no future and a starter that had already proven he could'nt lead the team anywhere.
He saw his options. He was'nt going to be able to draft one of the top guys (Losman, Rivers, Manning or Big Ben) and had to do something. Feeley ws highly thought of in a lot of circles around the league. There is a reason the Eagles put a first round tender on the guy. The Eagles don't overpay for anyone yet they found it neccasary to put a tender onn a guy that would overpay him. I think I trust the Eagles front office's judgement more then the "I hate Feeley" crowd around here.
"A 2nd rounder is too much!!!!!"
THROUGHOUT THE HISTORY of the NFL Q.B.'s are always overvalued (see Rob Johnson, Matt Hasselbeck, Mark Brunell, just to name recent history).
Rick did'nt know we woyuld be picking that high. I'm damn sure he thought it would be a 2nd rounder that was almost a 3rd (we'd be picking in the mid 20's)
Wannstedt screwed Feeley. We all know Feeley had ZERO chance to be starter coming out of training camp.
The biggest mistake Spielman mae was allowing Idiotstedt to talk him into resigning Fiedler. That put a steak through the heart of Feeley's development for half a season.
Rick took a risk, something that Wanny would never do. The book is far from closed on this transaction.
Wally Ogunleye: He got a high third rounder and Marty Booker for Wally. Wally was'nt going to play here again. He wanted Jason Taylor money. We already had a massive inbalance of salary cap space allocated to the defensive side of the ball and signing Wally was not in the cards.
Ogunleye was not worth J.T. money. Yes, Wally is a good player but he is not a top 5 defensive end so paying him out would have made no sense.
Wally was going to hold out, sign the tender to get his year in (week 10) and then be unrestricted. Yes, we could have franchised him but that price tag would have been worse then the contract he wanted and it would have been a one year fix...he was going to walk.
Spielman got something instead of nothing.
Vernon Carey: With the exception of VERY FEW POSTERS ON THIS BOARD who wanted Wilfork (it sure seems those people have come out of the woodwork even though I recall at the time very few wanted him over Carey) Carey was the best option for us at the time.
"We need O-line, we NEED O-LINE!!!!!" was the common phrase screamed from the rooftops around here. Could you imagine the roasting Rick would have recieved if he took a D-lineman over an O-lineman? It is revisionist history to say "Wilfork was the pick".
Carey got screwed over last year. He had an idiot for an O-line coach, a head coach who changed his position twice before he played a snap and then changed it again. Wannstedt had no intention of giving Carey a chance.
B.T.W....when Carey did play last year I thought he was pretty good. To call him a bust already is absurd.
In closing I'll just say that good scouts are hard to find and Spielman is a good scout. He'll be hired quickly because teams know this. It's a shame he is thought of in the same breath as Idiotstedt.
I wish Rick luck now that he is out of that loser's shadow.