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Hypothetical question: Dolphins success or American success?

Could be worse. You could have to wait over 30 years for a Super Bowl appearance (let alone a win)...

Your analogy is wrong. You should be comparing Super Bowls with World Cup Finals. The playoffs would be the equivilant to the World Cup. And even so, 30 years is like 7 years in World Cup years.
 
Dolphins win a Super Bowl. I will go ****ing ballistic if we win a Super Bowl. Though I would be looking through my fingers at the very end.
 
What is on now is the World Cup Finals. Over 100 nations have been playing to qualify for this since 2012. I love NFL but it isn't a drop in the ocean compared to World Football (soccer)

The World Cup final will be the most watched tv this year worldwide.

To those who say its boring - I've just watched England with a population of 60m people lose to Uruguay of 3.5m. The match was quality from start to finish

Just because you don't understand the game, the culture, the passion the importance - doesn't mean it's boring. It's shows ignorance.
 
What is on now is the World Cup Finals. Over 100 nations have been playing to qualify for this since 2012. I love NFL but it isn't a drop in the ocean compared to World Football (soccer)

The World Cup final will be the most watched tv this year worldwide.

To those who say its boring - I've just watched England with a population of 60m people lose to Uruguay of 3.5m. The match was quality from start to finish

Just because you don't understand the game, the culture, the passion the importance - doesn't mean it's boring. It's shows ignorance.

I understand the game. I played it for close to 20 years.

It's just boring as piss to watch on television. Hope this helps.
 
What is on now is the World Cup Finals. Over 100 nations have been playing to qualify for this since 2012. I love NFL but it isn't a drop in the ocean compared to World Football (soccer)

The World Cup final will be the most watched tv this year worldwide.

To those who say its boring - I've just watched England with a population of 60m people lose to Uruguay of 3.5m. The match was quality from start to finish

Just because you don't understand the game, the culture, the passion the importance - doesn't mean it's boring. It's shows ignorance.

What amuses me is when people start trying to say what's wrong with the game simply because they don't get the intricacies of the sport. I mean it's by far the most popular game in the world but some silly American thinks it needs to be changed as opposed to a game that can't gain a foothold anywhere else in the world no matter how hard the NFL tries to shove it down other countries throats.

I mean it's not like other American sports have gained popularity elsewhere. Oh wait, basketball and baseball are super popular in many other countries. But the most popular sport has something wrong with it says the guy who's on a forum for a sport that can't gain popularity anywhere else. :lol:
 
Just because you don't understand the game, the culture, the passion the importance - doesn't mean it's boring. It's shows ignorance.

I understand the game, the passion, the importance and all of the intricacies that are involved. It's still extremely boring for me to watch.
 
What amuses me is when people start trying to say what's wrong with the game simply because they don't get the intricacies of the sport. I mean it's by far the most popular game in the world but some silly American thinks it needs to be changed as opposed to a game that can't gain a foothold anywhere else in the world no matter how hard the NFL tries to shove it down other countries throats.

I mean it's not like other American sports have gained popularity elsewhere. Oh wait, basketball and baseball are super popular in many other countries. But the most popular sport has something wrong with it says the guy who's on a forum for a sport that can't gain popularity anywhere else. :lol:

People around the world don't like football because most of them don't even have TVs and the one's that do are hamstrung by having brains too tiny to understand the nuances of the sport. It takes smarts to watch football. People in Uruguay don't have smarts. People in Spain don't have smarts. People in Croatia -- especially Croatia -- don't have smarts. People in other country are dumb. It's sad, really.
 
People around the world don't like football because most of them don't even have TVs and the one's that do are hamstrung by having brains too tiny to understand the nuances of the sport. It takes smarts to watch football. People in Uruguay don't have smarts. People in Spain don't have smarts. People in Croatia -- especially Croatia -- don't have smarts. People in other country are dumb. It's sad, really.


I stand corrected.
 
Just because you don't understand the game, the culture, the passion the importance - doesn't mean it's boring. It's shows ignorance.

Hypocrisy. Just because someone doesn't share your opinion, they are ignorant? :bobdole:

I understand the game. I played it for close to 20 years.

It's just boring as piss to watch on television. Hope this helps.

Such an IGNORANT post! :sarcon:
 
World Cup, easily. A win like that would be legendary for centuries and break through unimaginable barriers. As famous as the 1980 Olympic hockey triumph is, it was hardly unprecedented. The USA won the gold medal just 20 years earlier in Squaw Valley.

To this point, as far as I know, the most famous USA soccer victory is 1-0 over England in the 1950 World Cup. Fantastic, but it didn't really lead to anything. It's like the Canes football history before their glory era began in the '80s. Prior to that, the landmark win in program history was upsetting Purdue one week after Purdue upset Notre Dame. Big deal. But in that era it was worthy of city wide celebrations and immense pride.

I've attended several Olympics. It's shared passion and joy with people from different cultures who you know you will never meet again, and have very little in common with, other than rooting for athletes wearing the same uniform over a brief two week window every 2 to 4 years. Pro football is not nearly as satisfying as college football from my perspective because it's so comparatively random and scattered from a personnel standpoint. The Canes are dominated by Florida players, primarily South Florida. Same for every region. Sure you recruit outside your base but the foundation is overwhelmingly local. Pro teams are tossed together by a contrived process called the draft. Even if a kid hated your team all his life, suddenly you own his rights so he's stuck. On the national teams the players have shared that dream all their lives, with few exceptions. Even in golf's Ryder Cup you occasionally have a goof who downplays it and calls it an exhibition, before actually participating. Witness recent examples like David Duval and Rory McIlroy. But once they get a taste of it they realize that representing your country brings intensity and passion that you didn't know you owned.

A legitimate run at the World Cup by the USA would summon all of that in exponentially higher doses than we've ever seen before, largely because we've never done squat in soccer and don't expect to. The America's Cup actually became a massive story when suddenly we were threatened. Grabbing something for the first time is markedly more satisfying that retaking something you've always taken for granted. The only people who want to pretend it wouldn't be a huge story are the ones who still want to believe that soccer isn't finally making big strides, that the premier league telecasts and updates aren't really happening. The hype was always overdone until less than a decade ago. Now it's legit. My brother in law has a relative who owns a chain of soccer apparel stores. Business is exploding. Major shopping malls throughout the country are approaching his firm and trying to get on the list for the next wave of expansion. The marketing is brilliant. I've been in one of the stores in Orlando. It's vibrant and always jammed with teenagers who know every foreign player while begging their parents to buy jerseys for them.

Sure, I've seen the Dolphins win and lose Super Bowls. The early '70s teams will always be the true Dolphins to me. The current group is merely a regulated version wearing a motion sickness logo and forced to perform in an incompetent venue. But even without being old enough to remember Csonka and company I'm confident I would still prioritize the big picture, and a World Cup success that grips 50 states, one of those moments when people remember where they were. Dolphin fans are a small insignificant piece of the pie. Other than pizza and most of my best wagering systems I prefer to share.
 
it's funny how people hate on soccer for being boring, but the game relies on the same qualities those people probably love so much in football (tactics, athleticism etc)
 
I enjoy watching futbol played at a high level. It took me until my early 20s to "get it" (not that I was actively trying throughout my life), but it's a great sport.

That said, I love football, and the Dolphins are my favorite football team and favorite sports team. I don't get as down after losses these days - call it conditioning, self preservation, whatever. But I can't imagine a sporting outcome that would come close to the Dolphins winning the SB (for me). I've also never been much of a nationalist.
 
Im rooting for team USA to be eliminated from the world cup as soon as possible to limit what little interest there is in this country.

Wow.

That's some phony American **** if I ever heard any.

Rooting against the United States in anything has a terroristic ring to it.
 
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