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"Inside" Info on Daunte's Knee

This information pretty much fits along with the things we have been hearing...or at least the things I have been hearing. There seems to be division among the media. The half that just talk out their butts and don't do heavy detailed research keep talking about how the issue is whether or not Daunte will be ready to start the season in Week 1.

The half that know their stuff and have done the right research have been saying that is not the issue at all. The issue is not will he start the season, but will he finish the season. I've heard this exact analysis before basically, that he'll start Week 1 but a few weeks into the season he'll likely have swelling that causes him to miss significant practice time, and miss games.

It's very similar to what David Boston went through. You remember how he made it through TC and preseason no problems, he began playing the season and all the sudden he started suffering some setbacks, swelling, etc...had to miss one game here, then another here, until finally he reinjured the thing and missed the rest of the year.

This will be a season where Daunte Culpepper will be listed "questionable" on probably every injury report that is released unless he gets put on IR.

My best hope is that after a few swelling setbacks in the first half of the season, when we face easier opponents, Daunte's knee will hit stride a little bit in the second half of the season when we start facing off with real tough teams. Either way my best guess for the season at the moment, until we know more about Daunte's knee and what this offense is going to look like, is about 9 wins.
 
K-Rob said:
Sure he's doing some running on it now but that can't be compared to Game Time stress the knee will have to endure. I'm no specialist but I would imagine that the swelling would be because the knee would not have gone through that hard a workout in a long time and it will still be sensitive.
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WOuldn't he get past that part in TC? News is he may be 100% by training camp, so any swelling would take place before the season starts and could be back to worry free play after the season starts.
 
Sounds accurate my roomate who is a professional athlete(snowboarder) had torn all three has and has recovered but swelling gets quite crazy every week and requires rest.
 
bigmiamifan said:
WOuldn't he get past that part in TC? News is he may be 100% by training camp, so any swelling would take place before the season starts and could be back to worry free play after the season starts.
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That's not correct. He will not be pushing the knee hard in training camp, and the coaches will not be asking him to do so. If they did so, they would risk losing him the whole year before the games even start.

The stress the knee will be under in TC is not to be compared with regular season practices and regular season games.
 
ckparrothead said:
This information pretty much fits along with the things we have been hearing...or at least the things I have been hearing. There seems to be division among the media. The half that just talk out their butts and don't do heavy detailed research keep talking about how the issue is whether or not Daunte will be ready to start the season in Week 1.

The half that know their stuff and have done the right research have been saying that is not the issue at all. The issue is not will he start the season, but will he finish the season. I've heard this exact analysis before basically, that he'll start Week 1 but a few weeks into the season he'll likely have swelling that causes him to miss significant practice time, and miss games.

It's very similar to what David Boston went through. You remember how he made it through TC and preseason no problems, he began playing the season and all the sudden he started suffering some setbacks, swelling, etc...had to miss one game here, then another here, until finally he reinjured the thing and missed the rest of the year.

This will be a season where Daunte Culpepper will be listed "questionable" on probably every injury report that is released unless he gets put on IR.

My best hope is that after a few swelling setbacks in the first half of the season, when we face easier opponents, Daunte's knee will hit stride a little bit in the second half of the season when we start facing off with real tough teams. Either way my best guess for the season at the moment, until we know more about Daunte's knee and what this offense is going to look like, is about 9 wins.
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I thought David Boston did have to take breaks from training camp, because of his knee swelling up. I remember hearing about that. He was involved in mini camp and then he was in every other practice for tc. I would have felt good if Boston was able to do every tc without having swelling, but that didn't happen last year.
 
ckparrothead said:
That's not correct. He will not be pushing the knee hard in training camp, and the coaches will not be asking him to do so. If they did so, they would risk losing him the whole year before the games even start.

The stress the knee will be under in TC is not to be compared with regular season practices and regular season games.
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So getting into the action in TC and in pre-season won't start the recovery process and swelling? I mean, if the swelling time table as mentioned by this doctor assumes a week 1 start, and swelling by say week 2-3, and Daunte gets into TC and pre-season, wouldn't he have a chance to get past the swelling stage of recovery before the season starts?

Or will this swelling happen after every game played for a year or so?
 
One thing I find kinda strange is that there are four major ligaments in your knee. They are: Anterior Cruciate Ligament, Posterior Cruciate Ligament, Medial Collateral Ligament and the Lateral Collateral Ligament. I don't think a doctor would say he tore all 3 ligaments when there are really 4. And it's a lot more complicated than how badly he tore them. A complete tear that's clean is a lot easier to operate on and recover from then a partial tear that's messy. Of course some of this could be lost in translation when the doctor told the cab driver but that also raises the question of doctor patient priviledge. I'm not sure a doctor would tell random people about the state of one of his patients knees. I'm not saying I don't believe you, some of the facts just seem a little strange.
 
K-Rob said:
I don't remember the name but this guy apparently evaluated Duante's knee and knows a good deal about his injury.
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While I do not disagree with this in theory, as it does sound very logical, I just do not believe a doctor who actually examined Daunte would discuss the case with a cab driver. Not saying your friend is lying, as "I" could have been in his cab and said my name was Dr. Andrews and said that "I" was Daunte's doctor.

If he did in fact discuss Dauntes case with your friend that would be a major breach in the Doctor Patient confidentiality and violate the Hippocratic oath. I just can't see someone like a Dr. Andrews doing that...and it would obviously have to be someone well respected if he did indeed evaluate Daunte's injury. Just doesn't add up.

Again though, it does make sense from a logical point of view, so I would not be surprised if it was a Doctor who was in the cab, just not someone who ACTUALLY saw Daunte as a patient.
 
dolphan98 said:
One thing I find kinda strange is that there are four major ligaments in your knee. They are: Anterior Cruciate Ligament, Posterior Cruciate Ligament, Medial Collateral Ligament and the Lateral Collateral Ligament. I don't think a doctor would say he tore all 3 ligaments when there are really 4. And it's a lot more complicated than how badly he tore them. A complete tear that's clean is a lot easier to operate on and recover from then a partial tear that's messy. Of course some of this could be lost in translation when the doctor told the cab driver but that also raises the question of doctor patient priviledge. I'm not sure a doctor would tell random people about the state of one of his patients knees. I'm not saying I don't believe you, some of the facts just seem a little strange.
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Agreed, and I ilke people who question this sort of post (even if it is my own). I think more people should question as well but I'm just forwarding information that was told to me. I don't claim to have a source in the Dolphins organization or anything. The use of the term "all" 3 ligaments is more my doing then his I'm sure. I don't know how many ligaments there are in the human knee and all I've ever heard is the number 3 in reference to knee injuries so that's why I used it. Believe me, nothing in my statement was a direct quote since it wasn't told to me directly. And as for the patient confidentiality part....I guess I can see that argument. But it's not like it's a big secret that Miami wants him to start week 1. The doctor simply reitterated that fact and gave his professional opinion on what would happen if he did start week 1. I am the first to admit that my post is a "Friend of a Friend" type story but my friend has no reason to make up something like this. So I'm taking him for his word.
 
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