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Is Saban the right choice?

You say Saban is underqualified for a head-coaching job...

Well, why don't ya take a look at his stats, and our terrific off-season?
I feel extreeeemely confident of Saban, and I will support him all the way.

Though I do want Jim Bates as our D Coordinator again...
 
niceguy99 said:
Hey Dolphins fans,
I just signed up for this site and ever since his hiring, I've been concerned with the hiring of Nick Saban and the decisions he has made. The guy hasn't coached in the NFL in who knows how long, and now we are giving him full responsibility? His last year in the NFL wasn't great, those Browns teams that he was the DC of weren't great, and overall, I feel he is overrated. He only had one great season at LSU and now BOOM, he is our coach. I'm not really impressed with the guy at all. I have a feeling that he might just be the next Spurrier, I just think he has been out of the game too long. Plus, I don't think he knows enough about offense and our biggest concern is offense. Our defense was fine before.

I'm just worried, I don't think Saban is the great thing that we are all expecting. I don't think he will finish his contract.

I'm not gonna bash you, but I will reeducate you on Saban.

1.He was the DC for a top 5 defense in cleveland
2.He helped put Toledo into D-1
3.He made Michigan State a competitive school
4.He took an LSU team that fell off the map, and made them into National Champs after 3 years.

I understand your concern about him being the next Spurrier, but there are major differences.

1.Spurrier had no prior coaching experience in the NFL while Saban did.

2.Spurrier did not work hard or work overtime. Saban is a workaholic.

3.Spurrier thought he could succeed in the pros using a college system, Saban coaches to get everybody ready for the next level. (a way to tell the diffence is the success rate of the Gators Spurrier coached and the Tigers Saban coached).

4.Eventhough Spurrier had Marvin Lewis for 1 year, he had no other real cordinator or position coaches. Saban went out and got 1 of the best OCs in the business and arguable the greatest OL coach of All-Time.

5.Spurrier was predictable. Saban has made it clear that this team will never be predictable.

6.Spurrier couldn't handle the media. Saban banned the media from the training facility.

It's all about the credentials not only Saban has, but the credentials of his assistants. It's alright to worry, but don't worry too much. Afterall, Saban is from the Parcells/Billicheck family so he's got alot of experience.

We may struggle, but it's all in the learning curve. Just sit back, relax, and enjoy the ride.
 
GRT8 said:
WANNY...IS THAT YOU?


THATS your opinion and you are intitled to it, I think you will be proven wrong
and this guy is dedicated, proven winner in every organization he has touched.

try being positive and refocus that negative energy elsewhere....it will accomplish absolutely NOTHING

Sorry for being realistic, I wasn't expecting everyone to hate on me for telling the truth.
 
niceguy99 said:
Hey Dolphins fans,
I just signed up for this site and ever since his hiring, I've been concerned with the hiring of Nick Saban and the decisions he has made. The guy hasn't coached in the NFL in who knows how long, and now we are giving him full responsibility? His last year in the NFL wasn't great, those Browns teams that he was the DC of weren't great, and overall, I feel he is overrated. He only had one great season at LSU and now BOOM, he is our coach. I'm not really impressed with the guy at all. I have a feeling that he might just be the next Spurrier, I just think he has been out of the game too long. Plus, I don't think he knows enough about offense and our biggest concern is offense. Our defense was fine before.

I'm just worried, I don't think Saban is the great thing that we are all expecting. I don't think he will finish his contract.

99% of the people on this board treat Saban like he is already in the Hall Of Fame. so you really should not waste your time. these people just don't seem to understand that it is not a 100% gaurentee we will be successful with Saban.
 
ChambersWI said:
I'm not gonna bash you, but I will reeducate you on Saban.

1.He was the DC for a top 5 defense in cleveland
2.He helped put Toledo into D-1
3.He made Michigan State a competitive school
4.He took an LSU team that fell off the map, and made them into National Champs after 3 years.

I understand your concern about him being the next Spurrier, but there are major differences.

1.Spurrier had no prior coaching experience in the NFL while Saban did.

2.Spurrier did not work hard or work overtime. Saban is a workaholic.

3.Spurrier thought he could succeed in the pros using a college system, Saban coaches to get everybody ready for the next level. (a way to tell the diffence is the success rate of the Gators Spurrier coached and the Tigers Saban coached).

4.Eventhough Spurrier had Marvin Lewis for 1 year, he had no other real cordinator or position coaches. Saban went out and got 1 of the best OCs in the business and arguable the greatest OL coach of All-Time.

5.Spurrier was predictable. Saban has made it clear that this team will never be predictable.

6.Spurrier couldn't handle the media. Saban banned the media from the training facility.

It's all about the credentials not only Saban has, but the credentials of his assistants. It's alright to worry, but don't worry too much. Afterall, Saban is from the Parcells/Billicheck family so he's got alot of experience.

We may struggle, but it's all in the learning curve. Just sit back, relax, and enjoy the ride.


Saban was a top DC when, 10 years ago? So? The game has changed, and even if you think he uses NFL schemes, the game is the college game. These are two entirely different games and I just don't see how everyone can be so confident in Saban having success. More college coaches fail in the NFL than succeed.
 
ok then, you tell me who was available, that deserved the job more so than saban. who would you rather see as the coach of the miami dolphins.
 
How about Charlie Weis? He was my first choice to coach the bills after Gw left and mularkey was my 2nd choice.
 
claytonAndDuper said:
ok then, you tell me who was available, that deserved the job more so than saban. who would you rather see as the coach of the miami dolphins.

Jim Bates
 
niceguy99 said:
Hey Dolphins fans,
I just signed up for this site and ever since his hiring, I've been concerned with the hiring of Nick Saban and the decisions he has made. The guy hasn't coached in the NFL in who knows how long, and now we are giving him full responsibility? His last year in the NFL wasn't great, those Browns teams that he was the DC of weren't great, and overall, I feel he is overrated. He only had one great season at LSU and now BOOM, he is our coach. I'm not really impressed with the guy at all. I have a feeling that he might just be the next Spurrier, I just think he has been out of the game too long. Plus, I don't think he knows enough about offense and our biggest concern is offense. Our defense was fine before.

I'm just worried, I don't think Saban is the great thing that we are all expecting. I don't think he will finish his contract.
saban has won everywhere he has been a hc also he is a great teacher a great motivator and the players love playing for him.saban was the rite choice and he will make the dolphins great once again after all we are the winingest team in the history of the nfl.
 
niceguy99 said:
Sorry for being realistic, I wasn't expecting everyone to hate on me for telling the truth.

You are'nt telling the truth though...you are basically flapping your gums.

Saban was the most qualified man for the job. In fact, in my opinion, he was the ONLY man for the job.

If you don't think he is going about rebuilding this proud franchise the correct way you must have been under a rock for the last 4 months.

The guy cleaned up our cap mess, made smart free agent signings, had the best draft this team has had in years and hired a world class coaching staff. It is not like he is offensive/defensive/special teams coach all in one. He is smart enoguh to let his coaches coach. Saban could fail miserably yet still succeed because of the coaching staff he put together.

He's going to make this team relevent again.

College sucess can be transfered to the NFL stage. Your arguement was "he was a coordinator in the NFL 10 years ago". That is true.

What is also true is Saban has been offered the head job by 4-6 other NFL teams in the last 5 years. It is'nt like the guy just fell into the job. He is considered by footbal people at every level as one of the best 5 football coaches on earth...I think I'll trust football peoples opinion a little more then yours.

Comparing Saban to Spurrier is like comparing a Yugo to a Porsche. Spurrier was more worried about his handicap then his football team. Spurrier was a 9-5er...Saban is a sleep in the office type.

You insinuate that every college coach is a failure in the NFL. Well, Bill Walsh, Jimmy Johnson, Steve Mariucci were college coaches...I think they turned out alright.

The guy has never failed. He took a Michigan State program that was swirling around the bowl and turned them nto a strong program again.

He took LSU, a team that is a religion in the South, also a team that was almost a laughing stock and made them a national power...in a short time.

Don't like Nick? Don't like the choice of Nick to lead us?

Go watch the Pitt Panthers then...seeing as you must be Wanny's one and only supporter.
 
WILLIS21 said:
How about Charlie Weis? He was my first choice to coach the bills after Gw left and mularkey was my 2nd choice.

Neither one of them could hold Saban's clipboard. Weis will flunk out in Notre Dame.
 
niceguy99 said:
Jim Bates

If Jim Bates was such a solid choice then why did none of the other teams looking for a head coach hire him?

I liked Bates but, watching another few years of 4 man rush, safeties deep and man coverage on the outside down after down would have made me smash my T.V. into little pieces.
 
godfater21 said:
99% of the people on this board treat Saban like he is already in the Hall Of Fame. so you really should not waste your time. these people just don't seem to understand that it is not a 100% gaurentee we will be successful with Saban.

No, there are no gaurentees. That being said, there was NO other choice.
 
unifiedtheory said:
No, there are no gaurentees. That being said, there was NO other choice.

Who knows Bates may have turned out to be one hell of a head coach. the team did seem to respond to him last year. i personally would like to have seem if charlie wies wanted the job. there was more choices than Saban. we just didn't explore them because Wayne had tunnel vison on Saban.
 
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