jake long is not joe thomas

[xxAQUA JOSHUAxx]

Jake Long, DS #1 OT, Michigan

[FONT=Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif][SIZE=-1]Name: [FONT=Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif][SIZE=-1]Jake Long[/SIZE][/FONT]
College: [FONT=Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif][SIZE=-1]Michigan[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif][SIZE=-1]Number: [FONT=Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif][SIZE=-1]77[/SIZE][/FONT][/SIZE][/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif][SIZE=-1]Height:[FONT=Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif][SIZE=-1] 6-7[/SIZE][/FONT][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif][SIZE=-1]Weight:[FONT=Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif][SIZE=-1] 313[/SIZE][/FONT][/SIZE][/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif][SIZE=-1]Position: [FONT=Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif][SIZE=-1]OT[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif][SIZE=-1]Pos2:
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif][SIZE=-1]Class/Draft Year:[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif][SIZE=-1]rSr/2008[/SIZE][/FONT][/SIZE][/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif][SIZE=-1]40 Time:[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif][SIZE=-1]5.22[/SIZE][/FONT][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif][SIZE=-1]40 Low:[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif][SIZE=-1]5.12[/SIZE][/FONT][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif][SIZE=-1]40 High:[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif][SIZE=-1]5.29[/SIZE][/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif][SIZE=-1]Projected Round: [FONT=Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif][SIZE=-1]1[/SIZE][/FONT] Stock:

[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif][SIZE=-1]Rated number [FONT=Verdana,Geneva,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif][SIZE=-1]1[/SIZE][/FONT] out of 165 OT's[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif][SIZE=-1][FONT=Verdana,Geneva,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif][SIZE=-1]4[/SIZE][/FONT] / 2540 TOTAL[/SIZE][/FONT]</STRONG>

Combine Results

Pro Day Results​

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[FONT=Verdana,Geneva,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif][SIZE=-2]Height:[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Verdana,Geneva,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif][SIZE=-2]6070[/SIZE][/FONT]
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[FONT=Verdana,Geneva,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif][SIZE=-2]40 Yrd Dash:[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Verdana,Geneva,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif][SIZE=-2]5.22[/SIZE][/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana,Geneva,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif][SIZE=-2]20 Yrd Dash:[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Verdana,Geneva,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif][SIZE=-2]2.97[/SIZE][/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana,Geneva,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif][SIZE=-2]10 Yrd Dash:[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Verdana,Geneva,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif][SIZE=-2]1.75[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Verdana,Geneva,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif][SIZE=-2]225 Lb. Bench Reps:[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Verdana,Geneva,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif][SIZE=-2]37[/SIZE][/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana,Geneva,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif][SIZE=-2]Vertical Jump:[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Verdana,Geneva,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif][SIZE=-2]27 1/2[/SIZE][/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana,Geneva,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif][SIZE=-2]Broad Jump:[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Verdana,Geneva,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif][SIZE=-2]08'06"[/SIZE][/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana,Geneva,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif][SIZE=-2]20 Yrd Shuttle:[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Verdana,Geneva,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif][SIZE=-2]4.73[/SIZE][/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana,Geneva,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif][SIZE=-2]3-Cone Drill:[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Verdana,Geneva,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif][SIZE=-2]7.44[/SIZE][/FONT]


[FONT=Verdana,Geneva,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif][SIZE=-2]Dates:[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Verdana,Geneva,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif][SIZE=-2]03/13/08 03/14/08 [/SIZE][/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana,Geneva,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif][SIZE=-2]Height:[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Verdana,Geneva,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif][SIZE=-2]6070[/SIZE][/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana,Geneva,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif][SIZE=-2]Weight:[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Verdana,Geneva,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif][SIZE=-2]313[/SIZE][/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana,Geneva,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif][SIZE=-2]40 Yrd Dash:[/SIZE][/FONT]
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[FONT=Verdana,Geneva,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif][SIZE=-2]10 Yrd Dash:[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Verdana,Geneva,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif][SIZE=-2]225 Lb. Bench Reps:[/SIZE][/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana,Geneva,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif][SIZE=-2]Vertical Jump:[/SIZE][/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana,Geneva,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif][SIZE=-2]Broad Jump:[/SIZE][/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana,Geneva,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif][SIZE=-2]20 Yrd Shuttle:[/SIZE][/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana,Geneva,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif][SIZE=-2]3-Cone Drill:[/SIZE][/FONT]

[FONT=Verdana,Geneva,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif][SIZE=-2]Before Combine: Hgt: 6070, Wgt: 315, 40YD: 4.96-5.08-5.17[/SIZE][/FONT]



VS

[FONT=Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif][SIZE=-1]Name: [FONT=Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif][SIZE=-1]Joe Thomas[/FONT] [/SIZE][/FONT][/SIZE][FONT=Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif][SIZE=-1]
College: [FONT=Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif][SIZE=-1]Wisconsin[/FONT] [FONT=Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif][SIZE=-1]Number: [FONT=Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif][SIZE=-1]72[/SIZE][/FONT][/SIZE][/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif][SIZE=-1]Height:[FONT=Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif][SIZE=-1] 6-7[/SIZE][/FONT][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif][SIZE=-1]Weight:[FONT=Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif][SIZE=-1] 311[/SIZE][/FONT][/SIZE][/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif][SIZE=-1]Position: [FONT=Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif][SIZE=-1]OT[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif][SIZE=-1]Pos2:[/SIZE][/FONT][/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif][SIZE=-1][FONT=Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif][SIZE=-1]
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif][SIZE=-1]Class/Draft Year:[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif][SIZE=-1]Sr/2007[/SIZE][/FONT][/SIZE][/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif][SIZE=-1]40 Time:[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif][SIZE=-1]4.92[/SIZE][/FONT][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif][SIZE=-1]40 Low:[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif][SIZE=-1]4.90[/SIZE][/FONT][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif][SIZE=-1]40 High:[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif][SIZE=-1]4.97[/SIZE][/FONT][/SIZE]
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif][SIZE=-1]Projected Round: [FONT=Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif][SIZE=-1]1[/SIZE][/FONT] Stock:

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[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif][SIZE=-1]Rated number [FONT=Verdana,Geneva,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif][SIZE=-1]1[/SIZE][/FONT] out of 170 OT's[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif][SIZE=-1][FONT=Verdana,Geneva,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif][SIZE=-1]3[/SIZE][/FONT] / 2353 TOTAL[/SIZE][/FONT]

Combine Results

Pro Day Results​

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[FONT=Verdana,Geneva,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif][SIZE=-2]Height:[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Verdana,Geneva,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif][SIZE=-2]6065[/SIZE][/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana,Geneva,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif][SIZE=-2]Weight:[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Verdana,Geneva,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif][SIZE=-2]311[/SIZE][/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana,Geneva,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif][SIZE=-2]40 Yrd Dash:[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Verdana,Geneva,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif][SIZE=-2]4.92[/SIZE][/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana,Geneva,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif][SIZE=-2]20 Yrd Dash:[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Verdana,Geneva,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif][SIZE=-2]2.87[/SIZE][/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana,Geneva,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif][SIZE=-2]10 Yrd Dash:[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Verdana,Geneva,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif][SIZE=-2]1.75[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Verdana,Geneva,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif][SIZE=-2]225 Lb. Bench Reps:[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Verdana,Geneva,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif][SIZE=-2]28[/SIZE][/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana,Geneva,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif][SIZE=-2]Vertical Jump:[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Verdana,Geneva,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif][SIZE=-2]33[/SIZE][/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana,Geneva,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif][SIZE=-2]Broad Jump:[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Verdana,Geneva,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif][SIZE=-2]09'02"[/SIZE][/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana,Geneva,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif][SIZE=-2]20 Yrd Shuttle:[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Verdana,Geneva,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif][SIZE=-2]4.88[/SIZE][/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana,Geneva,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif][SIZE=-2]3-Cone Drill:[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Verdana,Geneva,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif][SIZE=-2]7.95[/SIZE][/FONT]


[FONT=Verdana,Geneva,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif][SIZE=-2]Dates:[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Verdana,Geneva,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif][SIZE=-2]03/07/07 [/SIZE][/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana,Geneva,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif][SIZE=-2]Height:[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Verdana,Geneva,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif][SIZE=-2]6065[/SIZE][/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana,Geneva,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif][SIZE=-2]Weight:[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Verdana,Geneva,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif][SIZE=-2]311[/SIZE][/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana,Geneva,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif][SIZE=-2]40 Yrd Dash:[/SIZE][/FONT]
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[FONT=Verdana,Geneva,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif][SIZE=-2]10 Yrd Dash:[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Verdana,Geneva,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif][SIZE=-2]225 Lb. Bench Reps:[/SIZE][/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana,Geneva,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif][SIZE=-2]Vertical Jump:[/SIZE][/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana,Geneva,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif][SIZE=-2]Broad Jump:[/SIZE][/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana,Geneva,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif][SIZE=-2]20 Yrd Shuttle:[/SIZE][/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana,Geneva,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif][SIZE=-2]3-Cone Drill:[/SIZE][/FONT]

Thanks for the stats!! And who says joe thomas is quicker than jake long look at the 20 yard shuttle and 3 cone drill that test agility and jakes are better yea joe has a better 40 time but i mostly look at the 10 yard dash time since there O-lineman and there both the same in that add the fact that jake is alot stronger more attitude beat joe thomas and levi brown for best lineman in his JUNIOR year and will definitly dramacticly improve our oline by putting carey back to RT.

 

[3rdandinches]

Thanks for the stats!! And who says joe thomas is quicker than jake long look at the 20 yard shuttle and 3 cone drill that test agility and jakes are better yea joe has a better 40 time but i mostly look at the 10 yard dash time since there O-lineman and there both the same in that add the fact that jake is alot stronger more attitude beat joe thomas and levi brown for best lineman in his JUNIOR year and will definitly dramacticly improve our oline by putting carey back to RT.

Stop making sense that doesn't fly here, we can get leftover RT's in the 2nd or maybe even the 3rd. Having the geatest OLB's and a average O-line will help us in the long term.

The most disappointing thing about not taking J.Long will be that some absolute steal of a player will drop to our 32nd pick and we'll be forced to take some zone blocking RT out of desparation or better yet we'll wait until later and after Beck gets blown up game after game the Beck sucks chants will be louder then ever.

Beck will never get a real shot at it but I'm sure in the 2009 draft there will be some top rated OT that everyone will argue "he's no J.Long" so lets wait until the 2nd round.

 

[ShaBam]

Stop making sense that doesn't fly here, we can get leftover RT's in the 2nd or maybe even the 3rd. Having the geatest OLB's and a average O-line will help us in the long term.

The most disappointing thing about not taking J.Long will be that some absolute steal of a player will drop to our 32nd pick and we'll be forced to take some zone blocking RT out of desparation or better yet we'll wait until later and after Beck gets blown up game after game the Beck sucks chants will be louder then ever.

Beck will never get a real shot at it but I'm sure in the 2009 draft there will be some top rated OT that everyone will argue "he's no J.Long" so lets wait until the 2nd round.

Please....Becks problems go much further than the o-line. They were average last year...Becks issues fumbling etc. were hardly the fault of the offensive line.

 

[3rdandinches]

Please....Becks problems go much further than the o-line. They were average last year...Becks issues fumbling etc. were hardly the fault of the offensive line.

I never blamed the O-line on all Becks mistakes, he's a rookie and played like one. No QB will ever be perfect, I just think if the O-line would be as good as it can be if we draft properly that then there will be ZERO excuses for any QB playing behind our line. Now the only excuse I'll give ANY rookie QB is that they need time to truly learn the position and will make mistakes here and there.

But if our line is no better then last year your not giving our QB a real chance to succeed when he's running his life.

 

[CANDolphan]

Christ.. Ive never such stupid comparisons.

Lets see if I get this right.. Jake Long is like Robert Gallery while Chris Long is like Matt Roth..

I wonder if skin color has ANYTHING to do with these comparisons..

 

[rent this space]

long is not as a good athlete as thomas is.
which is why some think he will have trouble with speed rushers
dont get me wrong, he may be a very good LT but may not be a great one.
if people think he can do what joe thomas did for the browns there's gonna be alot of fans upset because it may come from the right side.
and if thats the case do we really want to draft a rt with the first pick in
which we could find in the 2nd round.
no one knows for sure until they put the pads on.
just hope he is not robert gallery

based on what? seeing as how Jake is faster in the 3 cone drill and 20 yard shuttle, I would say that's a bunch of bull. Thomas may have had a better 40 time, but not many OT's run fly patterns. plus, Jake is a lot stronger. yeah, he's no Joe Thomas- he looks better...

 

[Dolphins101]

You have to be quick to be a LT and his times are a good bit slower. Maybe that and his slower feet is why some scouts say he'd be better at RT.

 

[Bigjbizzle2]

your right hes not............he is better. was better in college and will be a better pro mark it down

 

[rent this space]

You have to be quick to be a LT and his times are a good bit slower. Maybe that and his slower feet is why some scouts say he'd be better at RT.

which "times" are you talking about?

3 cone drill: Long 7.44, Thomas 7.95
20 yard shuttle: Long 4.73, Thomas 4.88

who is slower?

 

[CANDolphan]

which "times" are you talking about?

3 cone drill: Long 7.44, Thomas 7.95
20 yard shuttle: Long 4.73, Thomas 4.88

who is slower?

No dude don't you get it he can't run 40 yards faster than Joe Thomas its very pivotal.

Maybe this guy and the guy who thinks Chris Long's 40 yard dash time means he wont be a great OLB should get together and start a club

 

[xxAQUA JOSHUAxx]

Stop making sense that doesn't fly here, we can get leftover RT's in the 2nd or maybe even the 3rd. Having the geatest OLB's and a average O-line will help us in the long term.

The most disappointing thing about not taking J.Long will be that some absolute steal of a player will drop to our 32nd pick and we'll be forced to take some zone blocking RT out of desparation or better yet we'll wait until later and after Beck gets blown up game after game the Beck sucks chants will be louder then ever.

Beck will never get a real shot at it but I'm sure in the 2009 draft there will be some top rated OT that everyone will argue "he's no J.Long" so lets wait until the 2nd round.

Yea well i think its alot easier to find good OLB's in any draft than finding LT's. Theres a reason why Jake long is considered a #1 pick is because hes that much better than the RT you wanna take at #32. Chris long has'nt faced top ranked teams like jake long has so we can definitly tell how he faces against good talent.

LT
Jake Long

LG
Drew Mormino or Draft

C
Samson Satele

RG
Justin Smiley

RT
Vernon Carey

 

[LBK34]

He can't handle speed, Gholston tore him up in their final regular season game.

 

[fishypete]

He can't handle speed, Gholston tore him up in their final regular season game.

And Otah...stopped C. Long.

Anyone who makes a decision based upon one game...deserves what he will get.

When you compare what J. Long did for 4 years...against ANY other tackle in the draft...it's so obvious who the pick should be.

I, for one believe that if the Dolphins stay at number one...they will chose between Dorsey and J. Long...they to me are the best at their positions...they can start on opening day...and you don't have to hope that they will be able to play..or change into that special player.

 

[rent this space]

No dude don't you get it he can't run 40 yards faster than Joe Thomas its very pivotal.

Maybe this guy and the guy who thinks Chris Long's 40 yard dash time means he wont be a great OLB should get together and start a club

are you trying to say a 40 time is more important for a lineman? you can have that club, dude. I'll take the OT who is quicker in small spaces.

 

[B.Sebo]

Stop making sense that doesn't fly here, we can get leftover RT's in the 2nd or maybe even the 3rd. Having the geatest OLB's and a average O-line will help us in the long term.

The most disappointing thing about not taking J.Long will be that some absolute steal of a player will drop to our 32nd pick and we'll be forced to take some zone blocking RT out of desparation or better yet we'll wait until later and after Beck gets blown up game after game the Beck sucks chants will be louder then ever.

Beck will never get a real shot at it but I'm sure in the 2009 draft there will be some top rated OT that everyone will argue "he's no J.Long" so lets wait until the 2nd round.

That is maybe the smartest thing I have seen in the draft forum this year. Kudos man, you got a rare thanks from me.

As an aside, it will be interesting to see on draft day how people react to our pick once it is made . . . whether or not we will come together behind one guy. I dont think it will happen. Personally, while I think Jake Long should be the pick, I think Chris Long is just as good as Jake and that both will be amazing players. Heck I won't even be upset with Gholston or Dorsey even though I think they will both be busts (Dorsey because of our system). About the only player I would be upset with would be Matt Ryan.

The bottom line is that the above poster is right, if you take Jake Long you free yourself up to take an Antoine Cason at 32 and then a Curtis Lofton with your second second rounder (three starters NEXT year).