Jason Cole: Tom Gamble said to be Ross' top pick for GM

[J. David Wannyheimer]

There is nothing that says Philbin will be the coach next season. Ross may leave that up to the incoming GM, a move he should leave on the table.

There's no way that Mike Sherman move is made if assurances aren't given, IMO.

If anything, you have to keep Joe now. Boy does this organization look bad if that goes down that way and then we can Joe anyway.

I'm open to an CFL GM. Their game emphasizes passing and so does Philbin ' and the NFL in general these days. His track record sounds exceptional and given his clout he likely could also have a coattails effect and bring some of his best scouts. Let face it, they are already in the US scouting so I'd imagine they would jump at the chance to work for an NFL team under a proven successful guy.

Yep, that's why he intrigues me. Because he's not a failed retread GM who got fired at his last job. And he's not an unproven guy who has been working under somebody else his whole life. He's a guy who would be interested in coming here because it represents a step up in prestige and pay. I also imagine that getting the hell out of French Canada would be nice.

He's not a Canadian by birth, by the way. He's from North Carolina and is very well acquainted with American football.

 

[Daytona Fin]

http://www.finheaven.com/showthread...-down-for-GM-job-begging-them-them-reconsider

Appearing on FOX NFL Sunday, Jay Glazer said the Jets "can't give the position away" when talking about their general manager vacancy.
"They're calling back candidates who already turned them down," added Glazer. "Their cap situation, personnel, QB and the circus turned a lot of candidates off." One of those candidates could be 49ers director of player personnel Tom Gamble, who was once considered the odds-on-favorite for the job but may have spurned the Jets.

http://www.rotoworld.com/headlines/nfl/254028/glazer-jets-cant-even-give-the-gm-job-away?rw=1

 

[nyjunc]

http://www.finheaven.com/showthread...-down-for-GM-job-begging-them-them-reconsider

http://www.rotoworld.com/headlines/nfl/254028/glazer-jets-cant-even-give-the-gm-job-away?rw=1

except that was 100% false as our cap was easily cleaned up and we are now in great position.

http://boltbeat.com/2013/01/06/jets...om-gamble-chargers-will-interview-on-tuesday/

The New York Jets have decided to look in another direction for their General Manager position and will not be hiring San Francisco 49ers Director of Personnel Tom Gamble.

I can buy that logic somewhat(more about inheriting a HC) from other candidates who got GM jobs but Tom didn't.

 

[Hayden Fox]

I don't think Ross wants to come on as an owner to hired all the wrong people so maybe that's why he wants to keep Philbin. He doesn't want to admit yet another mistake. People can say what they want but having a CH in place already hurts our chances at hiring the best GM posible. Then again, Ross can offer a ton of money to any canditade and if the person wants the money bad enough then we could get a top GM after all..

Ozzy rules!!

More important to admit the mistake and get it right.

 

[roy_miami]

One key difference between us and the Jets is it seems obvious to me the Tim Tebow trade was ordered by ownership. Rex Ryan obviously didn't want him or he would have seen the field for more than a few token snaps per game. Tannenbaum might have done it on his own but I doubt it, that wreaks of the owner meddling then to make matters worse he fires the GM over the QB circus.

 

[Spesh]

http://www.finheaven.com/showthread...-down-for-GM-job-begging-them-them-reconsider

http://www.rotoworld.com/headlines/nfl/254028/glazer-jets-cant-even-give-the-gm-job-away?rw=1

Thank you, i was just about to demand proof from Hayden.

So potential GM's didnt care about Rex one way or the other. It was their **** cap, **** quarterback, **** market, and **** owner that made some hesitant. And they still landed a guy with the background they coveted: cap.

How often does a GM spot open up that isnt a trainwreck? Prospects jumped at Oakland. Prospects, including Gamble, jumped at Jacksonville. Both of those positions were terrible in an extreme way. We have tons of cap space, most of our draft picks, a young quarterback, potentially more pass rushers then we have starting defensive end spots, we are in a world famous city that lacks the media scrutiny of other world famous cities(namely New York), no state tax, and offer a ridiculous amount of job security.
But according to some, people will avoid this place like it carries the plague. Why? Because they will have to hold onto a coach for a season. Not even indefinitely, just a single year. Oh and Aponte. You know, the person openly campaigning to leave for another job. Sounds legit, looks like we are totally screwed.

 

[nyjunc]

One key difference between us and the Jets is it seems obvious to me the Tim Tebow trade was ordered by ownership. Rex Ryan obviously didn't want him or he would have seen the field for more than a few token snaps per game. Tannenbaum might have done it on his own but I doubt it, that wreaks of the owner meddling then to make matters worse he fires the GM over the QB circus.

Tannenbaum took credit for that after he was fired, was that PR? I don't know. I don't think he was fired b/c of Tebow. The owner bowed down to the pressure of the fans wanting change after that disastrous year. The cap short term was in bad shape but was easily fixed and would have been w/ Mike.

 

[Spesh]

well at least he didnt draft ted ginn and probly thanked Mueller tons when he ended up with Patrick Willis.

But cmon people, it shouldnt be difficult to get all pros when your picking 10 and 11th overall year after year.

It was for Ireland.

 

[J. David Wannyheimer]

Here's a dumb question:

Don't owners typically have a say in the coaching hire, anyway? Even in good organizations? Just off the top of my head:

- When Tom Coughlin's job is discussed, who do they ask about it? The Maras.
- When Mike Tomlin's job is discussed, who is calling the shots? The Rooneys.
- Remember when the Bucs coach swapped to get Gruden? Glazers not only drove that, but made the call to give up draft picks to get him.
- Bob McNair made the call on Gary Kubiak.
- Mark Davis in Oakland is the person making the call on Dennis Allen.
- Woody and Rex in New York.
- Bud Adams and everyone who's ever coached for him in Tennessee.
- Tom Benson makes the call on Sean Payton. This was mentioned repeatedly when he was suspended.

Ted Thompson makes the call on Mike McCarthy, but that team is owned by the residents of Green Bay.

So tell me now, why do we suddenly think the GM needs to handpick his coach?

 

[ChambersWI]

as of 2 hours ago we had not reached out about interviewing Gamble. But it sounds like they have reached out to Alonzo Highsmith.

Sounds like Highsmith REALLY wants the job

 

[BIG_FISH_RI]

Here's a dumb question:

Don't owners typically have a say in the coaching hire, anyway? Even in good organizations? Just off the top of my head:

- When Tom Coughlin's job is discussed, who do they ask about it? The Maras.
- When Mike Tomlin's job is discussed, who is calling the shots? The Rooneys.
- Remember when the Bucs coach swapped to get Gruden? Glazers not only drove that, but made the call to give up draft picks to get him.
- Bob McNair made the call on Gary Kubiak.
- Mark Davis in Oakland is the person making the call on Dennis Allen.
- Woody and Rex in New York.
- Bud Adams and everyone who's ever coached for him in Tennessee.
- Tom Benson makes the call on Sean Payton. This was mentioned repeatedly when he was suspended.

Ted Thompson makes the call on Mike McCarthy, but that team is owned by the residents of Green Bay.

So tell me now, why do we suddenly think the GM needs to handpick his coach?

Becasue it sounds good....

---------- Post added at 11:23 AM ---------- Previous post was at 11:21 AM ----------

as of 2 hours ago we had not reached out about interviewing Gamble. But it sounds like they have reached out to Alonzo Highsmith.

Sounds like Highsmith REALLY wants the job

Sadly, it is to get the rooney rule out of the way. HOWEVER A Highsmith is a VERY VERY capable candidate. He is very regarded and should be given a fair shot.

 

[roy_miami]

as of 2 hours ago we had not reached out about interviewing Gamble. But it sounds like they have reached out to Alonzo Highsmith.

Sounds like Highsmith REALLY wants the job

He's close to 50, was a RB in the heyday of the NFL and went into boxing afterwards. Can he still spell his name?

 

[ChambersWI]

the thing some need to grasp is that this is not some foreign concept that never happens. It happens about 50% of the time. Sometimes it's one and done for the coach, sometimes it works out. But to claim that because we're keeping Joe, the job isn't attractive is just wrong.

 

[nyjunc]

Here's a dumb question:

Don't owners typically have a say in the coaching hire, anyway? Even in good organizations? Just off the top of my head:

- When Tom Coughlin's job is discussed, who do they ask about it? The Maras.
- When Mike Tomlin's job is discussed, who is calling the shots? The Rooneys.
- Remember when the Bucs coach swapped to get Gruden? Glazers not only drove that, but made the call to give up draft picks to get him.
- Bob McNair made the call on Gary Kubiak.
- Mark Davis in Oakland is the person making the call on Dennis Allen.
- Woody and Rex in New York.
- Bud Adams and everyone who's ever coached for him in Tennessee.
- Tom Benson makes the call on Sean Payton. This was mentioned repeatedly when he was suspended.

Ted Thompson makes the call on Mike McCarthy, but that team is owned by the residents of Green Bay.

So tell me now, why do we suddenly think the GM needs to handpick his coach?

the GMs picked most of those guys, the owners are involved but usually they bring in a GM and work w/ the GM to hire the coach.

 

[Ryan1973]

Here's a dumb question:

Don't owners typically have a say in the coaching hire, anyway? Even in good organizations? Just off the top of my head:

- When Tom Coughlin's job is discussed, who do they ask about it? The Maras.
- When Mike Tomlin's job is discussed, who is calling the shots? The Rooneys.
- Remember when the Bucs coach swapped to get Gruden? Glazers not only drove that, but made the call to give up draft picks to get him.
- Bob McNair made the call on Gary Kubiak.
- Mark Davis in Oakland is the person making the call on Dennis Allen.
- Woody and Rex in New York.
- Bud Adams and everyone who's ever coached for him in Tennessee.
- Tom Benson makes the call on Sean Payton. This was mentioned repeatedly when he was suspended.

Ted Thompson makes the call on Mike McCarthy, but that team is owned by the residents of Green Bay.

So tell me now, why do we suddenly think the GM needs to handpick his coach?

Its more about the GM and head coach being on the same page and being able to work together. Your right, its usually the owner that decides to fire a head coach. But in most cases, the GM will have some input on it that decision as well. Thats why you normally hire a GM first and let him have input on who to hire as a head coach. Its about sharing the same vision and working together as a team.