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Jonnu Smith not at mandatory minicamp

BSQ said:
I wouldn't let Jonnu walk. That creates a hole where there isn't one and hurts the offense right away. Jonnu scored 8 TDs so he's pretty valuable in the red zone. He is the kind of TE we need and in addition he has great chemistry with Tua. Stop letting talent walk out of the building. Drew is a Dolphin friendly agent, give the guy some more money and some incentives like 1000 yeards and 10 TDs. Stop letting him hang out there, show the guy some respect and treat him right. I have a feeling that Ross shut off the money. The guy made the Pro Bowl, that's worth something imo. He was the only player from Miami in the Pro Bowl. This is a small and easy fix, what is taking so long. Show the dude some love, why do we have to choose now to play hardball.
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I think some of it has to do with the extensions we handed out last year and how bad they look in hindsight with Reek Ramsey Tua and even Waddle… I can assure you there’s some buyers remorse there and that’s partially the reason we are hesitant to extend him early.

Grier has a bad recent track record of resigning the wrong guys, the money that ended up going to Ramsey should’ve been used to sign Hunt a year early etc.
 
BSQ said:
I wouldn't let Jonnu walk. That creates a hole where there isn't one and hurts the offense right away. Jonnu scored 8 TDs so he's pretty valuable in the red zone. He is the kind of TE we need and in addition he has great chemistry with Tua. Stop letting talent walk out of the building. Drew is a Dolphin friendly agent, give the guy some more money and some incentives like 1000 yeards and 10 TDs. Stop letting him hang out there, show the guy some respect and treat him right. I have a feeling that Ross shut off the money. The guy made the Pro Bowl, that's worth something imo. He was the only player from Miami in the Pro Bowl. This is a small and easy fix, what is taking so long. Show the dude some love, why do we have to choose now to play hardball.
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I would rather not lose him but not keen to cave … we need to stop doing that.

Also, everything we’ve done this off-season is about both getting younger and changing the approach to the offense.

Jonnu was incredibly valuable last year on short passes where he could get yards after the catch and we did a lot of that because we just could not run the ball.

Now we’ve invested in new Guards, two big backs, a run blocking TE and a big WR3 who can block.

If we can get back to being able to run the ball effectively and so open up the deep passing game again … Jonnu’s role is going to be pretty diminished.

Obviously this could all not go to plan and so having the option - on the contract he signed - would be ideal.
 
Really good analysis of the Jonnu situation from Kyle Crabbs. He goes over recent TE trade history to give a realistic framework on what a potential return may be for Jonnu. He also likes the approach of letting Jonnu test the waters, he thinks both sides (Jonnu and the Phins) will get a clearer picture of Jonnu's (potential) contract worth that way. Worth a listen

 
Golphindolphin said:
Really good analysis of the Jonnu situation from Kyle Crabbs. He goes over recent TE trade history to give a realistic framework on what a potential return may be for Jonnu. He also likes the approach of letting Jonnu test the waters, he thinks both sides (Jonnu and the Phins) will get a clearer picture of Jonnu's (potential) contract worth that way. Worth a listen

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But what would be the result if you start letting more and more players test the waters? It would most likely become a free for all with players wanting to do that all the way up to the trade deadline.

I wish players would just honor their contacts. Guess I'm old. 🤣
 
DrMultimedia said:
But what would be the result if you start letting more and more players test the waters? It would most likely become a free for all with players wanting to do that all the way up to the trade deadline.

I wish players would just honor their contacts. Guess I'm old. 🤣
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Given the situation, the Phins are playing it smart, and honestly, I believe Jonnu and Rosenhaus may be getting an eye opener as to what is out there contract wise from other teams. The Dolphins clearly have not done well recently with negotiating extensions , I actually feel more confident letting other teams show their hands so we get a true number to go off instead of just negiotiating against ourselves. Maybe a reasonable bump, a la the Raheem contract, but he's not getting a big number from the Phins. I believe in the end that when Jonnu doesn't get what he wants elsewhere he'll dutifully report to training camp with his tail tucked and play for his $3.49 million salary.
 
Oh cool a bunch of guys who are going to say play out your contract blah blah blah not understanding this is an entirely different situation.

Get your money while your can. Nobody here has ever had to focus your entire life worth of earnings in a 4-5 year period.

He had the best season of a TE in our teams history, he just watched Hill and Ramsey get paid increases (after already being paid huge deals) mid contract for mediocre performances so why wouldn’t he demand to be paid… top 10 TE money?

Fully guarantee the contracts and then we can have this conversation. Otherwise it’s illogical and dishonest to fault the players for trying to get paid. Billionaire owners don’t care about you when they’re cutting you a year into a 4 year deal.
 
I bet nothing happens and he plays for Miami this year. Has a solid year overall if a little unspectacular (especially early on). Then probably gets another 2-3yr deal somewhere else.

Just my guess.
 
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Jonnu Smith landing spots: Steelers among logical trade destinations as contract talks with Dolphins continue

Could Smith find his way out of Miami?
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Pittsburgh Steelers​

Pittsburgh has been the team most linked to Smith, with the Steelers and Dolphins reportedly having on-again, off-again trade discussions revolving around the veteran tight end. Of course, the tie between Smith and the Steelers is obvious, with Arthur Smith slotted in as the offensive coordinator. Not only did Smith coach him in Tennessee with the Titans, but the two also reunited in Atlanta when Smith was head coach for the Falcons.

Clearly, there is an affinity for the player on the part of Smith, and he would give the Steelers another pass-catching weapon. While Pittsburgh traded for DK Metcalf earlier this offseason, they also dealt away George Pickens to the Cowboys. With Aaron Rodgers now in town, they'll likely need another outlet in the passing attack, which Smith could fill.


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Los Angeles Chargers​

Los Angeles is currently slated to have the most amount of cap space in the NFL next offseason, which would make any sort of Smith extension (assuming him agreeing to one is part of any trade) more than palatable.

He'd also bolster what is not the deepest tight end room that you'll find in the NFL. At the moment, Will Dissly is the top tight end on the Chargers depth chart after a 2024 season during which he caught 50 balls for 481 yards and two touchdowns. Smith's production was about double what Dissly put together, so Justin Herbert would conceivably be getting an upgrade at that spot. They did add Tyler Conklin on a one-year, $3 million deal back in March, but that shouldn't preclude L.A. from this type of trade if it wanted to pursue it.

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New York Giants​

New York is desperate for a boost on offense after registering the third-lowest yards per play average (4.7) and second-lowest points per game (16.1) in the NFL last season. This offseason, the Giants revamped the quarterback room, bringing in the likes of Russell Wilson (the likely Week 1 starter) and Jameis Winston, along with drafting Jaxson Dart in the first round earlier this spring.


No matter if it's Wilson or eventually Dart under center, it'd behoove the Giants to give either quarterback a capable tight end as the security blanket. Currently, 2024 fourth-round pick Theo Johnson is atop the depth chart, and while he had his moments during his rookie season, he's hardly a guarantee to anchor the position group. If he is able to keep up his production from last season, it wouldn't be that shocking to see Smith come in and compete for the second-most targets on the team behind ascending star receiver Malik Nabers.
 
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