Mark Walton

NY8123

Sophisticated Redneck
Administrator
Super Donator
Finheaven VIP
Joined
Jan 29, 2008
Messages
25,774
Reaction score
10,461
Location
out in the Ding Weeds
He is an uber long shot at best. I'm all for giving out second chances but 1) he'll have to get his charges reduced first and foremost. A gun and drug related charge will probably carry a few months of jail time. 2) he needs to make sure he is clean in life and has everything there in order and then 3) impress enough to out perform several other guys with far less baggage who want to play in the NFL also.

So odds to make the final cut have to be 100:1.
 

Nappy Roots

Da Dalphins
Joined
Nov 23, 2004
Messages
15,694
Reaction score
736
Location
Bradenton,FL
You do realize he was breaking the law? You just can not choices what laws to follow and discard the rest. It doesn't work that way. If you do not like the laws then lobby to get them changed. But don't think just because you don't agree with them, you can do your on thing. This is why I no longer live in the US. I love my country, but the mental state of some Americans has got to be questioned. But then again, maybe he is too mentally incapacitated to realize his actions. In that case, I wouldn't want him on the team anyway.
When you lived in this country, did you never drive over the speed limit?

We cant change the laws, as dumb as some may be. But we can judge them based on how idiotic they may be.
 

nick1

I am Groot
Moderator
Finheaven VIP
Joined
Jan 22, 2004
Messages
26,351
Reaction score
6,308
Location
FL
He is an uber long shot at best. I'm all for giving out second chances but 1) he'll have to get his charges reduced first and foremost. A gun and drug related charge will probably carry a few months of jail time. 2) he needs to make sure he is clean in life and has everything there in order and then 3) impress enough to out perform several other guys with far less baggage who want to play in the NFL also.

So odds to make the final cut have to be 100:1.
I'd take those odds and laugh to the bank. If he stays clean hes making the final roster, hes probably better then Ballage due to better vision
 

gregorygrant83

Starter
Joined
Mar 23, 2009
Messages
6,499
Reaction score
2,333
Weapons possession not good, but other players have had similar charges and it wasn't really career threatening or more than a possible 4 game suspension. The battery charge stems from an altercation he had at his apartment complex with a couple in the parking lot. Apparently someone started filming the confrontation and Walton took the camera. No punching or body slamming a woman in the parking lot here. Likely a misdemeanor that could end up being dismissed or settled out of court. I'm thinking the worse case scenario is probation by the legal system and maybe a short NFL suspension due to the number of events in a short period of time.
 

DKphin

Super Duper Club
Joined
Aug 10, 2008
Messages
13,821
Reaction score
4,449
Location
Pattaya, Thailand
When you lived in this country, did you never drive over the speed limit?

We cant change the laws, as dumb as some may be. But we can judge them based on how idiotic they may be.
You can definitely change laws. But I guess the great educational system in America doesn't teach Civics anymore.
 

CRIOS

Don't Stop Beliv'n!
Finheaven VIP
Joined
Jun 20, 2003
Messages
5,162
Reaction score
397
Age
53
Location
Miami
The coaches must see something special in him to sign him even with all the legal woes. A blessing in disguise? Maybe he corrects his ways and developes into a steller player. Let's hope that is the case.
 

PhxSunFan34

Hammered
Joined
Sep 9, 2018
Messages
984
Reaction score
938
Location
Texas
You do realize he was breaking the law? You just can not choices what laws to follow and discard the rest. It doesn't work that way. If you do not like the laws then lobby to get them changed. But don't think just because you don't agree with them, you can do your on thing. This is why I no longer live in the US. I love my country, but the mental state of some Americans has got to be questioned. But then again, maybe he is too mentally incapacitated to realize his actions. In that case, I wouldn't want him on the team anyway.
But you definitely can categorize each offense and come up with an educated guess of what kind of person he is. Are these non-violent offenses or violent offenses? Kids do a bunch of reckless things that you can say he'll probably grow out of. But if it's a violence, then he may have an anger issue and that's more of a red flag than marijuana or reckless driving.
 

Michigan Mike

Finheaven VIP
Joined
Jun 30, 2004
Messages
871
Reaction score
803
Location
Saranac, Michigan
Personally, I am not a big fan of this signing. I realize stupid kids do stupid things but they normally learn how to keep their nose clean after the first or second one. There is nothing wrong with kicking the tires on as many players as possible but character needs to be part of the formula. If he does make the team out of training camp, you have to wonder if he will be suspended for a few games to start the season.
 

jazz015

Finheaven VIP
Joined
Aug 3, 2011
Messages
1,092
Reaction score
777
Personally, I am not a big fan of this signing. I realize stupid kids do stupid things but they normally learn how to keep their nose clean after the first or second one. There is nothing wrong with kicking the tires on as many players as possible but character needs to be part of the formula. If he does make the team out of training camp, you have to wonder if he will be suspended for a few games to start the season.
I do agree with this sentiment. I also would like to see us try a different approach this time around. Giving him a chance is the definition of low risk high reward. If he does not turn out it won't cost us anything. Walton is only entering his second year and it won't kill us. If guys like Tyreek hill van get a multiple chances than so can Mark walton
 

Feverdream

Active Roster
Joined
Jun 18, 2003
Messages
650
Reaction score
686
Well... for my 2 cents, I am going to say that this guy is as dumb as a rock, and a wannabe gang banger.
As such, I doubt if he'll change. Most of these guys cling to the lifestyle as if only weaklings dont behave like they do.
That said, if he lights it up (not his weed), he only has to beat out Gaskin and Laird for the job.
 

bane

Finheaven VIP
Joined
Jan 19, 2008
Messages
685
Reaction score
507
Age
43
Well lets hope he turns his life around and Flores and company gets him to play up to his ability.
I hope Flores works out for obvious reasons but if he doesn’t some of you guys will be crushed. I don’t get all the high expectations with him yet. He hadn’t proven anything without patriots. I think some posters need to temper their expectations.
 

bane

Finheaven VIP
Joined
Jan 19, 2008
Messages
685
Reaction score
507
Age
43
As far as a football player, what type of bAck is he? Third down? Every down back? Speed guy? What value would he bring? I don’t know much about him. Anybody care to share ?
 

Awsi Dooger

Super Duper Club
Joined
Feb 8, 2005
Messages
9,409
Reaction score
2,837
Location
Las Vegas
As far as a football player, what type of bAck is he? Third down? Every down back? Speed guy? What value would he bring? I don’t know much about him. Anybody care to share ?
He's kind of a Tony Nathan type, if I had to pick a player from Dolphins history. I'm not sure if you go back that far. Walton is not as tall or sturdy as Nathan but their styles are similar. More slippery than fast. Capable of multiple fluid moves on the same run but not really a threat to take it the distance unless everything busts wide open. Good out of the backfield. Can be used as kick returner but he'll never really scare you in that role. The Canes tried Walton as kick returner as a freshman but then moved away from him. Likewise the Dolphins had Nathan returning kicks his rookie season and maybe a little bit beyond that. He did a good job on punt returns of squeezing everything that was available but everyone could sense it wouldn't be a long term role.

Of course, Nathan was ultra dependable and Walton is the opposite of that. But on raw ability he certainly has a chance to make the final roster. I wish that 100/1 were actually available at some reputable joint. I don't think he will make it, simply because regimes are very loyal to their own draft picks. Edge to Gaskin. But Walton is probably closer to 2/1 or 5/2 than 100/1.
 

BSQ

Scout Team
Finheaven VIP
Joined
Jan 17, 2008
Messages
3,334
Reaction score
1,708
Location
Dania Beach, FL.
He is at the point where I believe he can put his legal troubles behind him if he is willing to change his ways. The Dolphins will assist him in getting the finest legal representation available and the charges can be mitigated and dealt down. But, and this is a very big but, if this kid does one more stupid thing his chance at an NFL career is virtually over. So, ability won't do it this time. He has to show character, we'll see if he has any.
 
Top Bottom