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Martin checked into hospital; Philbin visited; Martin never said anything about Incog

You just refuse to see truth as its slowly being exposed. And its your right. Unlike alot of you here. Only a few of us, have stood by our original thoughts on this. And its slowly but surely exposing the under belly of Martins defense, and his lawyers/agents agenda. That agenda which is taking down a NFL franchise, isn't for a paid vacation.
I think you're having trouble teasing apart the media's motive, which is to present every sensational scenario possible to attract interest, from Jonathan Martin's motive, which is unknown and unable to be determined with any certainty. You and others are allowing the media's ideas to determine what you believe to be going on in another human being's mind, when in reality none of us nor the media knows what's happening in his mind.
 
You just refuse to see truth as its slowly being exposed. And its your right. Unlike alot of you here. Only a few of us, have stood by our original thoughts on this. And its slowly but surely exposing the under belly of Martins defense, and his lawyers/agents agenda. That agenda which is taking down a NFL franchise, isn't for a paid vacation.

i just hope we got our ducks in a row so we can actually fight it...would love to see us play hard ball...goodell also if we have a good case does not want to open a can of worms for players to have this scapegoat going forward...
 
Again, if that were the case that he actually wanted to resolve this in a mature manor, Martin simply would have turned the voicemals/txts over immediately to someone with the authority to try and resolve the situation. You cannot spin away how damning it is for Martin that he held on to that voicemail for as long as he did.


Jilted girl friends hold onto crap to throw at ex boyfriends in the future. Its a bitch play, and its why I stand by my original comment of Martin being a ***** ass bitch.
 
Again, if that were the case that he actually wanted to resolve this in a mature manor, Martin simply would have turned the voicemals/txts over immediately to someone with the authority to try and resolve the situation. You cannot spin away how damning it is for Martin that he held on to that voicemail for as long as he did.
Like I said, he played the card when he needed to play it. I'm not saying he has no ulterior motive here.
 
I don't thing this a money grab even though he will get some money....I see it as a guy who has emotional issues and after breaking down, searched for reasons for his break down instead of coming to the conclusion that its him with the problem.....Cog's was an easy target....good to see Cog's fighting back (by saying the coaches told him to toughen him up) and not letting the fins throw him under the bus.... I just hope Cog's doesn't go to crazy and end up burning every bridge there is and never playing football again, if that happens I feel for every bouncer that crosses his path.......
 
Martin JUST ruined the NFL as we know it!!!!!!!! Really know one will accept the fact that Martin was just not cut out for the NFL. There is nothing wrong with that. I got hurt in pre season and was released and NEVER REALLY thougt about makin another attempt to try again. Yeah in my mind I wanted to be on a NFL team but in my heart..... I didn't. To violent, to hard, to much work, to much time, to emotional. IT'S NOT FOR ME. I'm better sitting behind this desk living a normal life. 3 weeks with Rodney Harrison and you realize that this is a Grown Man game. Comming from a 1AA school to the NFL was eye opening.

My last time saying this because I really can't believe that this kid is doing this........ Martin just got pushed by his team to be better and when he couldnt step to the plate the pressure kept mounting. He couldnt take the heat so he ran out of the kitchen. Now he is looking for sympathy and wants to show the world that it's not him that the NFL has flaws and is cruiel and thats why HE couldnt perform.

Martin is a B*tch!!! I bet I could tell him that to his face and wouldnd't do an thing about it!!!! (wow my true colors are coming out now)
 
2 thoughts...

1) Philbins biggest mistake (to date); To toughen up JM, he used a flame thrower when a match or two would have worked.

2) Will Pouncey sport a Free Incognito hat?
 
So strange. When i was a kid, it wasn't popular to be a bitch made little sissy ass ***** ass mamas boy. Nowadays if a boy sucks a foot long dick in public, everybody better clap and tell hi how brave he is or they may get sued. Weird how things change.
 
my brother greatly disagrees with me but I'm of the thinking like most of you are. that Martin is basically a snake and should have went to philbin but is after money at this point. Incognito is an idiot but had no malicious intent. hard to understand the voicemail who talks to a friend like that? but I guess thats the culture. maybe we need to ban hazing and straighten up locker room talk. what other work environment would that kind of language be tolerated? these are not good role models for sure
 
I think you're having trouble teasing apart the media's motive, which is to present every sensational scenario possible to attract interest, from Jonathan Martin's motive, which is unknown and unable to be determined with any certainty. You and others are allowing the media's ideas to determine what you believe to be going on in another human being's mind, when in reality none of us nor the media knows what's happening in his mind.

If you have read my posts at all on this subject the past few days...the media and their motive have lead in alot of my arguments.http://www.finheaven.com/showthread...icks-up-for-fins!&p=1064858708#post1064858708

The fact Martin team leaked information damning to Incognito and the franchise, set out a campaign. The media, with the its buzz words, that the Martin encouraged in their complaint, became the face of a 'cause'. One poster yesterday admitted as much.

When its all said and done. The leaking of that information had to come at the approval of one adult. And I ask you...who is that adult?
 
So strange. When i was a kid, it wasn't popular to be a bitch made little sissy ass ***** ass mamas boy. Nowadays if a boy sucks a foot long dick in public, everybody better clap and tell hi how brave he is or they may get sued. Weird how things change.


This is the age of the purple marker and the participation award. Red marker being too mean for some and everyone who participates is a winner, no losers.
 
The leaking of that information had to come at the approval of one adult. And I ask you...who is that adult?

Well, since we know one of the adults is in rehab right now, I'd bet you dollars to donuts it's this guy:

He is author of several books on the subject of terrorism, including The SAGE Encyclopedia of Terrorism, Second Edition (SAGE Publications, 2011), Terrorism and Homeland Security (SAGE Publications, 2011), Essentials of Terrorism: Concepts and Controversies (SAGE Publications, 2011), and The New Era of Terrorism: Selected Readings (SAGE Publications, 2004). He has served as a panelist for university and community symposia on the subjects of administration of justice, terrorism, and fair hous­ing. He has also been a consultant to governmental and private agencies. Prior to joining academia, he served as manag­ing attorney for the Fair Housing Partnership of Greater Pittsburgh, where he was also director of a program created under a federal consent decree to desegregate public and assisted housing. He was also Special Counsel to the Attorney General of the U.S. Virgin Islands on the island of St. Thomas. As Special Counsel he provided personal and confidential position in central office of Department of Justice; sat as hearing officer for disciplinary hearings and departmental grievances; served as chair of drug policy committee; served as liaison to the intergovernmental Law Enforcement Coordinating Committee as well as to the Narcotics Strike Force; and provided daily legal and policy advice to Attorney General. Prior to serving as Special Counsel, he was a “floor” Legislative Assistant to Congressman Charles B. Rangel of New York. As Legislative Assistant, he researched, evaluated and drafted legislation in areas of for­eign policy, foreign aid, human rights, housing, education, social services and poverty; he also drafted House floor statements, Congressional Record inserts, press releases, and news articles; and he composed speeches, briefing materials and legislative correspondence.
 
I don't thing this a money grab even though he will get some money....I see it as a guy who has emotional issues and after breaking down, searched for reasons for his break down instead of coming to the conclusion that its him with the problem.....Cog's was an easy target....good to see Cog's fighting back (by saying the coaches told him to toughen him up) and not letting the fins throw him under the bus.... I just hope Cog's doesn't go to crazy and end up burning every bridge there is and never playing football again, if that happens I feel for every bouncer that crosses his path.......
I think that's possible, and I think it's also possible that he knows he's predominantly responsible for the problem, but is using the inflammatory material he has available to back the team off of pressuring him to return or go unpaid.
 
Goodell is not going to want to just throw a ton of money at Martin, but there is a line that makes it easier/quicker to pay Martin vs longer/harder to fight it.
Goodell & Ross will want this to go away sooner then later.
Heck, I'll throw in $20 to get this all over with and put behind us.
 
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