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MERGED: Dolphins to hire Dan Marino as special advisor

Danny can never be wrong! I enjoy all of his posts. No, the girls don't have anything to do with it! He could say, " Marino couldn't shine Chad Henns' shoes" and I probably throw him a thumbs up!
 
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TheWalrus said:
There are examples on both sides, to be fair. Otto Graham, Forrest Gregg and Norm Van Brocklin all flamed out as head coaches, for example, whereas Raymond Berry and Mike Ditka succeeded. Ozzie Newsome has been a spectacular success as a GM after being a HOF tight end whereas Matt Millen -- excellent linebacker -- was Matt Millen -- epic fail GM. There's no one formula.

For what it's worth -- despite his background -- Elway was not considered a mastermind type during his playing days. He was considered a hyper talented, highlight reel type player. Like a better Michael Vick. But he wasn't considered a thinker, and didn't really become a very efficient passer until Mike Shanahan came along. I mean, he didn't even complete 60% of his passes over a season until 1993, when he was 33 years old.
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Examples yes ... but a very strong preponderance of the evidence shows it is much more likely to be a very bad decision. It usually ends up being like the San Fran Mike Singletary disaster.

Big part of the Harbough legend was the swiftness of the San Francisco turnaround. But it should be noted that they had a lot of talent, it was just horribly mismanaged by Mike Singletary. So the great turnaround was really more than just a very good job by Harbaugh.
 
IT's nice and I believe that others have already made mention of this, but he's not going to have a huge impact on the organization except in being "that guy" that maybe reps the team in the community. As far as football guys who I would like to have work for the organization....Jason Taylor, always comes across as smart and willing to learn.
 
No doubt it helps the marketing of the team to have Dan officially involved again. So, from that perspective it's a clever hire. Well, done all for arriving at the right niche for the guy, imo.

But I would have serious doubts that he would add much to bigger, more central front office role. He hasn't got the intellect for that, by the looks. There's also the issue that if he was given too much profile in the front office, it would actually act as a disincentive to a coach like Harbaugh or (to a lesser degree) a player like Manning. I could see Harbaugh being less interested in a job at Miami where Dan is around to take the fans' attention and be the spiritual figurehead of the team. Jim's ego is not reputed to be small, he's going to want to be the only sheriff with a badge on any team he runs. I imagine he would hate Dan being around in anything other than the sort of capacity they seem to have agreed for him.

So I doubt there's any connection between this hire and Ross reputedly still wanting Harbaugh. As I say, if anything it's a small obstacle.
 
Fin Thirteen said:
No doubt it helps the marketing of the team to have Dan officially involved again. So, from that perspective it's a clever hire. Well, done all for arriving at the right niche for the guy, imo.

But I would have serious doubts that he would add much to bigger, more central front office role. He hasn't got the intellect for that, by the looks. There's also the issue that if he was given too much profile in the front office, it would actually act as a disincentive to a coach like Harbaugh or (to a lesser degree) a player like Manning. I could see Harbaugh being less interested in a job at Miami where Dan is around to take the fans' attention and be the spiritual figurehead of the team. Jim's ego is not reputed to be small, he's going to want to be the only sheriff with a badge on any team he runs. I imagine he would hate Dan being around in anything other than the sort of capacity they seem to have agreed for him.

So I doubt there's any connection between this hire and Ross reputedly still wanting Harbaugh. As I say, if anything it's a small obstacle.
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I can't disagree with this.

I think the main motivation for this move is Ross understands he is an absentee owner, he even got his share of the blame for "bully"-gate by the press for not being around enough. I think Dan is his solution for this. Dan will be the man while Ross is out of town. Also Ross wants more transparency, and probably understands nobody wants to see his ugly mug speaking more.
 
Digital said:
Examples yes ... but a very strong preponderance of the evidence shows it is much more likely to be a very bad decision. It usually ends up being like the San Fran Mike Singletary disaster.

Big part of the Harbough legend was the swiftness of the San Francisco turnaround. But it should be noted that they had a lot of talent, it was just horribly mismanaged by Mike Singletary. So the great turnaround was really more than just a very good job by Harbaugh.
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Can you elaborate on this?
 
Digital said:
\And Marino was never considered a mastermind type like Peyton
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That's because the people doing the considering are idiots. We never had a real OC while Marino was QB until Jimmy came in and had his HS offense installed. Seriously, the guy had the entire playbook memorized and mastered, to the point where he could credibly get in another player's face and cuss them out when they did the smallest thing wrong. Marino called the offense without input (most of the time) and did his job as a QB.

Even if it's true Marino's not the best public speaker (dunno where this idea came from), George W. Bush has two Ivy League degrees and is a horrible public speaker. There is no direct correlation between intelligence and speaking ability.
 
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