They are just using our depth chart to try and get some offers before the draft.. nothing to see here
Rosen's pass velocity at the combine was the fastest in over 10 years. DeShaun Watson and Lamar Jackson tested slowest over the same span. How much does that matter?
Brett Farve? Steve Young?
I would be kind of weirded out even for a 3rd....Fitz & Rosen battling it out for the starting job? What if Fitz wins the job & you have a Rosen vs Tua/Fromm/Hebert debate next offseason
I'd say it means more in terms of Lamar Jackson. I don't think gimicky quarterbacks can win for long in the NFL. The Chargers faced him a second time after seeing him once and he turned it over four times and got sacked seven times because LA forced him to be an actual quarterback instead of an extra running back.Obviously absolutely nothing.
Grier did not like Rosen last year so why would he change his opinion in 1 year?
No way does he even think about trading for him.
Does the fact that his entire coaching staff was fired mean anything, especially in light of them having a top 5 RB who shat the best in the same system...?We really talking about getting this dude? He lead his team to the first overall pick. The first overall pick that a lot of yall in this thread say is damn near impoosible to do unless you have complete incompetence at the QB position. Threw 11 TDs, 14 ints, 55% completion percentage in 14 games. 66 passer rating. Averaged 162 yards a game passing. Hes not good. I dont care how "bad" his situation was. He should have been better than that in today's NFL.
His defense was ranked 20th in total defense. Not great but not bottom of the barrel like the team he is coming too. He had David Johnson. Fitzgerald. Kirk. Germaine Gresham. Ricky Seals Jones. It wasnt a gold mine of talent but lets not act like hes coming to a much better place. He is 4 day old slaw thats been left out of the refrigerator.
I do not think the issue is talent. From what I have read the issue is he is poorly coachable and that goes back to high school. Sounds like he could be one of the “I not me” type players. If the cardinals gave up on that high of a pic that quickly, I say we should also.Rosen is easily worth a 3rd. I’d even consider a 2nd given his talent. You can’t Judge him off his rookie year with a failed coaching staff and terrible OLine.
This is a very popular slur that has been snowballing for a couple of years now, without anybody willing to provide any evidence or put their names to such accusations. He has spoken out against authority (pointing out the irony in 'not-for-profit' colleges making millions while student athletes are restricted from and punished for earning by draconian NCAA rules) , expressed his own opinion (the Trump hat) and then topped off those two by defending his right to do such things in his combine/pre-draft interviews. In an industry that the league, owners, front offices, coaches, media and fans like to treat as a military in that nothing than total obedience can be tolerated and anyone not doing so is a 'locker room cancer', 'not a team player' or a 'diva' it's not surprising that anyone showing any kind of outward personality or self confidence in their own opinions be put in their place fairly swiftly (usually via the media and 'unnamed sources'). Anything other than being completely servile to God and the country (Rosen is openly atheist and anti-Trump) is treated as if they are going to wreak havoc in a locker room.I do not think the issue is talent. From what I have read the issue is he is poorly coachable and that goes back to high school. Sounds like he could be one of the “I not me” type players. If the cardinals gave up on that high of a pic that quickly, I say we should also.
This is a very popular slur that has been snowballing for a couple of years now, without anybody willing to provide any evidence or put their names to such accusations. He has spoken out against authority (pointing out the irony in 'not-for-profit' colleges making millions while student athletes are restricted from and punished for earning by draconian NCAA rules) , expressed his own opinion (the Trump hat) and then topped off those two by defending his right to do such things in his combine/pre-draft interviews. In an industry that the league, owners, front offices, coaches, media and fans like to treat as a military in that nothing than total obedience can be tolerated and anyone not doing so is a 'locker room cancer', 'not a team player' or a 'diva' it's not surprising that anyone showing any kind of outward personality or self confidence in their own opinions be put in their place fairly swiftly (usually via the media and 'unnamed sources'). Anything other than being completely servile to God and the country (Rosen is openly atheist and anti-Trump) is treated as if they are going to wreak havoc in a locker room.
Ultimately the guy could be a massive dickweed and not give a **** about an NFL career, I don't know him, and neither do 99.9% of the people who suggest that he is selfish, or arrogant, or a trouble-maker, or that the fact he's from a rich family means that he has no motivation or desire. He's just turned 22; how many of us (that are older than that) have matured and developed since we were that age? My point is that people are talking like he's only worth a fifth or sixth round pick, a 'one-and-done' guy who should be third on depth chart and made to try and prove himself as a back up. That's ridiculous. He hasn't lost his talent and potential in one poor season in a crappy team, and if he's available for a third round pick then we should be looking into it.
My take is that, given where were with the team-building and options in this years draft, we have bigger needs than a QB both our first two picks. That goes for trading for Rosen or drafting one (if we were targetting a QB then I'd go for Rosen ahead of Haskins, Lock or Jones). And while I think that probably also applies to the third round, if we do end up drafting someone like Will Grier or Ryan Lindley with that pick when we could have used it on Rosen it will be an absolute travesty.