More reasons why I honestly don't uderstand the "experts"

[Dol-Fan Dupree]

it's not just 1,000 yds but that is a measuring stick along w/ the other #s and he fails to measure up in most areas.

the other measuring sticks matter. The 1,000 yards does not. The 1,000 yards are used by stat junkies that do not know how to make a point.

 

[nuffrespekk]

I think the problem with this thread is that "past performance isn't indicative of future results"

 

[finjim]

Coles=Turf Toe.

 

[Schleprock]

VERY biased... Kerry Collins is WAY better than either of our QBs... i would say RB is closer to a push as you might be willing to believe... their O-line is also considerably better than ours, despite a few hiccups last night...

Mod Edit: Let's not discuss personal situations here. Off-topic. Keep it on point please. Thanks. nj

 

[cltchperf]

Ohhh so it goes by who makes more "amazing" catches. Orende gadsden used to make a ton as well so I guess he is a great WR as well.

Gadsden was a great possesion receiver, Chambers has the complete package though, not only will he make an amazig catch but he will go 71 yards fown the field, Chambers is fast, and he gets faster as he heads down field. Chambers is a legit playmaker.

 

[Schleprock]

I think the problem with this thread is that "past performance isn't indicative of future results"

i think the discipline of Mathematical Statistics would say you are wrong. Just about everything you use on a daily basis was formulated based upon "past performance" indicatiing "future results". And I'd wager if you took every player in the NFL right now and ran their career stats, you'd see a high confidence level that they are probably not going ot fluctuate much, maybe even tail off.

We as FANS interject the variable of HOPE each year, which clouds the judgement.

 

[nyjunc]

Collins sucks.

But Frerrotte is good???? :shakeno:

the other measuring sticks matter. The 1,000 yards does not. The 1,000 yards are used by stat junkies that do not know how to make a point.

I have taken his work as a whole, thy don't post drops so I cannot use that and I don't see him every game but when I do see him I come away thinking this guy has a ton of talent but he wastes it.

Chambers is a legit playmaker.

he absolutely is but h's not consistent enough to be considered a big time WR. he definitely has all the tools and I never said he does not but he hasn't put it all togther YET.

 

[cltchperf]

Ohhh so it goes by who makes more "amazing" catches. Orende gadsden used to make a ton as well so I guess he is a great WR as well.



What can you possibly base this on?



it's not just 1,000 yds but that is a measuring stick along w/ the other #s and he fails to measure up in most areas.

I know his other stats were pretty ****ty, like ypc, and Tds. he had almost 20 ypc his rookie season, 146 yards for 4 catches against a baltimore D, that's a nice ypc average, the rams game was nice too, many more, where he takes it to the house.

 

[nyjunc]

I know his other stats were pretty ****ty, like ypc, and Tds. he had almost 20 ypc his rookie season, 146 yards for 4 catches against a baltimore D, that's a nice ypc average, the rams game was nice too, many more, where he takes it to the house.

His #s are that of a very good #2 or 3 but a #1 needs more recs and more yards. Santana Moss was a #1 for us last year but he was in the same boat as Chambers. not consistent but he was capable of a big play on any play and he had a huge YPC.

 

[DreamWeaver]

I'd be interested to know what you think is so "biased". My points were concluded from looking at past stats, history, and player experience.

You are joking right? Giving the edge to Miami regarding WR's....come on man. I love Miami as much as the next guy but be realistic.

 

[Dol-Fan Dupree]

But Frerrotte is good???? :shakeno:



I have taken his work as a whole, thy don't post drops so I cannot use that and I don't see him every game but when I do see him I come away thinking this guy has a ton of talent but he wastes it.

Suck pretty much the same. Sad part is Collins is much more talented. he should be much better than he is.

Yet you have no real proof other than the weak "1,000" yards arguement

 

[cltchperf]

I think Chambers has a huge upside, Laverneous Coles has had two good years, and better yards in the past, but I'll say this when Chambers and Coles retire, then I'll be back here and see who is really better. Chambers has elite talent that has been wasted in the past, but with the smarter coaches now, Miami is going to throw the ball downfield and more, and better qb one way another next season either by draft or FA, hopefully Brees.

 

[cltchperf]

His #s are that of a very good #2 or 3 but a #1 needs more recs and more yards. Santana Moss was a #1 for us last year but he was in the same boat as Chambers. not consistent but he was capable of a big play on any play and he had a huge YPC.

It takes two you know, you need a qb to be more consitent also, and get the ball to him, and not throw awful ducks.

 

[Coral Reefer]

Watching the Oak/NE game last night in its entirety made me wonder even more just how biased, ignorant, clueless, or homer-esque these so called "experts" are on all the NFL columns and TV programs.

So, am I a crackhead or on par?

Why some would think Oakland better than the Phins would be for 1 reason, actually one name......

Randy Moss.

He is a big name and a big time playmaker.
These analysts just jump on the "big name" bandwagon and forget that football is a team sport all the way.
Look at Miami's roster and you see no big time offensive players, a new coach and question marks on the defensive side of the ball. Pair that with the fact Miami has no premier playmakers and you are going to get ignored.

 

[Schleprock]

You are joking right? Giving the edge to Miami regarding WR's....come on man. I love Miami as much as the next guy but be realistic.

I was being realistic, and others in this thread have shown similarly. Aside from Moss, who is undoubtedly an all world talent. Chambers, Booker, and Boston's stats/careers mop up over Curry, Porter, Whitted. Great and knowledgeable post though, thanks for posting :D