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My thoughts on Saturday’s electric practice..

Not being weird here but you know me RAF, I follow this training stuff and look at these athletes bodies with a keen eye, Tua‘s body was disproportionate and he carried a high body fat percentage in college..I talked about this predraft..i don’t think he was a gym rat nor a film rat.

That needed to change, Tuas lower body was always huge, huge calves, big bubble, but his upper body was small and underdeveloped.

watching Every workout video and closely looking for changes, it’s def happening..it’s not there by any stretch but it’s getting better…

if I was his trainer I would continue To try and build that upper body up to match his lower half..The lower half is all genetics, it’s not from weight training..He was born with those calves legs and butt.

So he needs to add muscle and change that body fat ratio..

I would make him quicker in the lower half so he be quicker to run and move, and develop the upper To take hits and improve upper body strength.
Nice posts, thanks.

Last year, Tua’s trainer Nick Hicks worked with Tua on strengthening the hip last offseason as it was not at full strength.

This off-season, Nick worked with Tua on mobility, footwork and throwing drills. It clearly shows.



Heard Tua in an interview once say he hardly ever lifted at Alabama which surprised me given how elite Saban is at maximizing every advantage he can.

And Tua’s pocket presence is so much better than Tannehill’s ever was.
 
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That's likely not good news. It means they are waiting for swelling to go down before they can get a good idea of the damage with an MRI.
Swelling is pretty common and not necessarily a harbinger of bad news. People often just roll an ankle and have a ton of swelling but no other damage. Or it could be something disasterous for him. Either way, we don't know yet. You're right that that is probably what they are waiting for, but I don't see it as something to worry about until there's something to worry about.
 
Predraft said I thought his skillset, strengths and weaknesses were good for the slot and not the perimeter, citing his excellent short area cod skills the slot demands, speed and strength was good too, thought his lack of size combined with poor balls skills would make him vulnerable on the perimeter, both of those things are less prominent in the slot, ball skills and height.
IMO slot CB is one of the most difficult defensive positions. I think ball skills and instincts are premium requirements for slot CB. Iggy does have great COD ability, but I don't believe he's likely to develop the instincts and ball skills to play slot any time soon. I think those would be more difficult to compensate for than size on the perimeter. And his size isn't that bad. He's not one of those length guys like Trill, but he is an elite athlete (even amongst NFL CBs). IMO boundary CB is his best position for us.
 
IMO slot CB is one of the most difficult defensive positions. I think ball skills and instincts are premium requirements for slot CB. Iggy does have great COD ability, but I don't believe he's likely to develop the instincts and ball skills to play slot any time soon. I think those would be more difficult to compensate for than size on the perimeter. And his size isn't that bad. He's not one of those length guys like Trill, but he is an elite athlete (even amongst NFL CBs). IMO boundary CB is his best position for us.
Total agreement here. Ppl suggesting he move to slot before learning boundry do not understand the difference. Slot is highly dependent on read/react quickness (emphasis on the read part). Boundry assignments are much easier reads and leverage technique execution. If he can't get those right consistently, he has no business playing slot.
 
IMO slot CB is one of the most difficult defensive positions. I think ball skills and instincts are premium requirements for slot CB. Iggy does have great COD ability, but I don't believe he's likely to develop the instincts and ball skills to play slot any time soon. I think those would be more difficult to compensate for than size on the perimeter. And his size isn't that bad. He's not one of those length guys like Trill, but he is an elite athlete (even amongst NFL CBs). IMO boundary CB is his best position for us.
Ball skills are more stressed on the perimeter and on deeper routes down the field, the slot imo acts as a shield of sorts to those stresses and accentuates the need for COD skills and pure tough man to man skills where he can play trail technique and just be physical..

So far from what I’ve seen over two years he’s getting exposed as to what I’m talking about
 
Total agreement here. Ppl suggesting he move to slot before learning boundry do not understand the difference. Slot is highly dependent on read/react quickness (emphasis on the read part). Boundry assignments are much easier reads and leverage technique execution. If he can't get those right consistently, he has no business playing slot.
Yeah I disagree here, his college tape is filled with slot work where he excelled

His lack of height does not hurt him as much inside as it does when he tracking a deep ball far down field. He has a much better chance with his particular skillset to be more productive in the slot imo
 
Ball skills are more stressed on the perimeter and on deeper routes down the field, the slot imo acts as a shield of sorts to those stresses and accentuates the need for COD skills and pure tough man to man skills where he can play trail technique and just be physical..

So far from what I’ve seen over two years he’s getting exposed as to what I’m talking about
The slot with limited ball skills is a liability. They give up constant completions or penalties. They need to be able to bat those quick passes down. On the perimeter, you have more time to read and react. You can be a Byron Jones with limited ball skills and still be considered a very good CB with good athleticism and technique. In fact, I would say that Byron Jones is the player Iggy should be aiming to become. I don't think he has any shot at ever becoming another Needham.
 
The slot with limited ball skills is a liability. They give up constant completions or penalties. They need to be able to bat those quick passes down. On the perimeter, you have more time to read and react. You can be a Byron Jones with limited ball skills and still be considered a very good CB with good athleticism and technique. In fact, I would say that Byron Jones is the player Iggy should be aiming to become. I don't think he has any shot at ever becoming another Needham.
I understand what your saying but we’re talking about two different things.

I believe he struggles on deep routes where his height is exposed on deep routes and doesn’t allow him to have that extra inch to recover deep.also on deep balls tracking the ball is a much tougher task than on the inside as the ball is in flight longer and higher.. Some receivers can track deep some can’t, tracking the deep ball is a strength all in itself. Some receivers can limit the movement of the head, some can’t

He is more protected on the inside where he’s good at trail and can be closer to deflecting passes .

It’s ok we dont agree here, what I saw in college is exactly what I’m saying now and it’s come to fruition in my eyes.

Bottom line he just needs to make the roster at this point..
 
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Hey y’all, really really fun first day.

Obviously you've heard the crowd was Crazy.

I can confirm they gave the team a standing ovation when the players came out, and then all hell broke loose when Hill took the mic and people lost their ****.backflips and fist pumps, training camp fans going nuts lol.

its really nice to see fans getting excited..this can really help a team if it’s done right at the stadium.

Get there early, stand in defense and scream your ass off..we’re 8-0 in our last 8 home games.

The intro by tyreek and the following it up with an electric practice is gonna make tickets move..don’t sell them to the home team, sell them to dolphins fans.

Blaise andres, what can I say, kid looks like a tough lineman.acts like one, let’s see what he’s got in preseason.

Some drills.

Qb drill where on the 7 step drop once the back foot hits, the ball is tucked and qb becomes running back splitting the defense..dig it..need it..want it..don’t forget it Tua.

Interesting that Ingram and Phillips, by themselves working on the pass rush repertoire..

Van Ginkel, bigger stronger faster…..lower..

that’s right, he’s got a new move..face mask is about 6 inches from the ground and he’s coming out fast and low..like really low..could not be stopped today..

#41 Hodges flashing to me in drills.movement and quickness in drills is looking good.

Melvin Ingram and coaches working on just the spin move with all backers and rush ends..love the drill because it puts athletic coordination on display..the key to the spin move is heading in the right direction once you’ve completed the 360, most are off balance and not headed to the qb...Hodges and Ingram exectute nice in this drill.

one on ones..corner/receivers.

that pass everyone is saying that Tua overthrew..well, X did not take the stutter move by Hill and had perfect position on Hill throughout the route.Tua had to lead extra to throw it away from X….Not sure because of how small Hill is that is an over throw..Just great defense and tua put it in the only place it could be thrown..

I think that’s one of only two passes that hit the ground all day from Tua.

Tua to waddle deep 6..lol waddle separated from the defender so explosively, a matter of a second, he made this move that created 3 yards of seperation..6 from Tua.

Tua to Wilson deep 6..just a great throw on a deep in and go route, Tua Put it on the end zone Pylon and it was perfect, coverage was pretty tight.

Braylon Sanders…deep back shoulder at the sideline, coverage was tight, but this kid made the back shoulder one hand look easy..Hill and Waddle come and do the dance..might wanna look at him a lot harder at ole miss..it was the easy ness for which he did something so difficult that has me intrigued, this was a full life rep that he slowed everything down..

11 on 11..don’t let anyone tell you any different, they were going full speed except tackling to the ground.

Two nice runs from Mostert and Edmonds, blocking was good..Edmunds split the defense up the middle.

Tua to Hill..30 yards over the middle..protection was there.

78 getting left tackle first team reps.

Hunter Long drops ball on perfectly executed misdirection.hit him in the face mask.

Jalen Waddle playing Deeb on handoff.

Tua to Hill for 6 gone viral.Tua drops and deeks the defender, steps up and throw the dime piece..Noah, revis, sanders, Woodson wouldn’t of been able to defend that thing..I think it was 63 yards in the air..I think…place went ****ing berserk..lol

pocket was there for him to step up.

On the following play, #2 couldn’t hold on to a beautifully dropped in deep fade by Tua..he extended in tight coverage but couldn’t get it to stick to the fingertips.

Then two frustrating plays by Tua..bad hesitation on both, and he’s just floated in the middle of the pocket, didnt move much, didn’t tuck and run, Van ginkel would of ate him up for a strip..

now I’m not sure if he was told not to run but if he was allowed and he didn’t that lack of mental transition is gonna be a problem again..he’s got to be quicker to make the transition to run much faster..Tannehill was the same way.

I think it’s a big deal if he doesn’t figure it out and feel that backside pressure but until Then he was sharp as hell.

Running back White try to bounce it outside but didn’t have the speed to get the edge and turn, disappointing and the defender and him got into a scuffle..long speed was not there on college film either.

Skylar with a nice deep slant to #14..good timing and placement.

#9 and waddle on first team kickoff return.

Moorstead setup on field goal attempts is nice to watch, very smooth, hopefully helps sanders.

Igbo starting all day opposite X…I said predraft that he didnt Have the goods to be on the perimeter and that he should exclusively work in the slot, he‘s not playing bad..just would like to see him battle Needham.

Wilkins splits interior for TFL, celebrates at Tua.

Good protection for Tua, nice deep crosser dropped in for Hill.

Tua finds the hot on a full blitz..nice play by Tua.

Bridgewater with an overthrow on a deep cross by waddle..

Sieler splits for the TFL, celebrates with Wilkins.

Austin Jackson calmly picks up a blitzer to allow Tua to throw the crosser.

Teddy with his best play of the game, pressure from both sides, recognizes early, and aggressively moves up in the pocket and fires a bullet to the receiver in the middle.

Hodges blows up the run beating some tackle not sure..big tfl.

Skylar nice pass to Doaks…on an outlet pass over defenders, Doaks drops, Doaks cut.

#22 working hard..

play action boot..ogbah and Riley right there as Tua turns, he recognizes quick and flicks pass complete to back thru traffic.I like the play.

#27 stuffs out the flanker screen to Waddle, big loss, 27 takes waddles hankie and throws it.

Tua with two plays where timing and placement matter, a couple of outs on both sides..perfect execution.

Gink with the last laugh at practice, he Drops in coverage when reading the quick out and deflects the pass.

End of practice..McD talks with them as a team for a while, Wilkins gathers them up for the break..

Saturday nite.in Miami, stay out of trouble.

X and Needham work over time..

nice to see players signing autographs again..

I’ll be there early for tuesdays first practice in pads..

today was a lot of fun, the crowd the energy, Tua and hill and waddle, and shout to Wilson, he caught everything in the slot.

There were no drops except Doaks and Long..

Thanks for the write up. Are u sure it was #78 taking starting LT reps ? I’ve been eyeing that all week and everything I’ve seen is Larnel Coleman #79 getting the first teams reps when armstead is out. He was during mini camp too.
 
Thanks for the write up. Are u sure it was #78 taking starting LT reps ? I’ve been eyeing that all week and everything I’ve seen is Larnel Coleman #79 getting the first teams reps when armstead is out. He was during mini camp too.
No not sure
 
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