- Apr 23, 2010
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Great post and completely agree, the more i watch on this kid the more i like him. I dont think there is one sucessful qb in this league that doesnt have a big ego. Look at the elites rodgers, brees, brady, and wilson. They all drip swagger and ego, they just know how to apply it in a positive way.It's okay to not be in love with the draft, but I think it's quite clear to see the vision Grier and Flores have for the team.
Also, I hope this makes sense, but in past years we drafted guys strictly based on what their numbers looked like and how we projected they'd fit into a scheme rather than actually drafting them for what they were. That's how you end up drafting guys like Dallas Thomas, Billy Turner, and Jamil Douglas on the OL. All guys who look good, but also are seen as more athletic OL. What was the issue with all of them though? They had awful technique, no balance, and lacked awareness. All were OL that needed to built from the ground up and we used pretty high draft capital on them. Deiter and Prince are far from perfect prospects (and I've talked about Prince's Big 10 season struggles) but both do have qualities that you want. Both were classic Patriot like OL to draft. Both are maulers in the run game already and both are smart blockers.
A lot of people are hating on Van Ginkel. I get that too as arguably more prolific players were available, but remember. It's about what you will be asked to do. Van Ginkel already played the position he would be asked to play for us in Flores's defense in Jim Leonard's defense. AVG was asked to do a lot of stunt blitzes, read delayed blitzes, and adjust to plays based on looks. He's also a fairly decent athlete. So this was a case where you would not need to teach someone from the ground up.
I'm actually pretty shocked we put more focus on offense than defense, but each pick on offense (whether it works out or not) fits a new identity on offense. It's more about being smash mouth, more about being smart. More about knowing your assignment. In a perfect world Deiter, Prince, Cox, Gaskin, and even Rosen will all be seen as steals and become starters but that is unlikely to happen... but all of them should help with changing the culture in those meeting rooms. Less finesse more hitting, less flash more grit. It's a back to basic draft. Which can suck, but sometimes you need.
Now as for Rosen, based on how the trade worked out it's like we drafted a 2nd round QB. We have no commitment to him. He does have all the tools to be great. And while I think the concerns about his character are greatly overblown, he does have a big ego so hopefully he keeps that in check. If he sucks no big deal, but there's also the chance he could take a jump like Jared Goff and Mitch Trubisky took (both solid QBs but not on the talent level of Rosen) in year 2 when they had a real offensive staff calling plays.
Also on Rosen, I find it funny how Rosen had similar stats to Josh Allen last year (and arguably a bit better) but Allen is viewed by some people as a breakout star next year.