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Also some speculation that Brand could use his Early Termination Option and come back on a much cheaper contract.
 
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He has some post game, but unless he bulks up another 20 pounds at the very least and hits the weight room hard, I don't see it working much at the next level. His mid range jumper is still pretty inconsistent. The comparisons with Davis are certainly there. Henson is taller, longer, and more athletic, but the negatives between the 2 are very similar. Henson has a lot of shotblocking potential at the next level, but I don't see very much scoring in his future, and has a lot of work to do in the weight room to not get pushed around on defense/rebounds.
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We don't really know if his mid-range jumper is consistent or not because he hasn't taken very many of them. The assumption of inconsistency is based on his horrid free throw shooting.....it may be a valid assumption and it may not. The shot is there though.

Size and athleticism will go a long ways to determining his draft status. I don't think hes a very good athlete by NBA standards....certainly nowhere near the level of Davis. The insane length makes up for a lot of that, but NBA teams will be more interested in how he moves around the court and whether he can be realistically expected to guard perimeter players. I think he'll end up with better measurables than Durant....a bit taller, longer, and more athletic, and that should get someone excited enough to put him in the top 10.
 
Another offseason of rampant Iguodala trade rumors. Latest revolves around #8, Calderon, and Ed Davis for Iguodala. Will happen if the 76ers want it. Raptors offering the same thing for Rudy Gay. Depending on what's there at #8, I might be inclined to do it. Maybe a 3 team trade where we throw in our 15th pick to go along with the 8th pick and maybe someone else to move up for Drummond/MKG? I like Calderon, he's just what we need as a backup PG. Perhaps even starter with Jrue moving to the 2 and Turner to the 3, though I'm not a fan of Turner at the 3. Ed Davis is just a throw in as far as I'm concerned though perhaps he can offer some rebounding and shotblocking.
 
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Another offseason of rampant Iguodala trade rumors. Latest revolves around #8, Calderon, and Ed Davis for Iguodala. Will happen if the 76ers want it. Raptors offering the same thing for Rudy Gay. Depending on what's there at #8, I might be inclined to do it. Maybe a 3 team trade where we throw in our 15th pick to go along with the 8th pick and maybe someone else to move up for Drummond/MKG? I like Calderon, he's just what we need as a backup PG. Perhaps even starter with Jrue moving to the 2 and Turner to the 3, though I'm not a fan of Turner at the 3. Ed Davis is just a throw in as far as I'm concerned though perhaps he can offer some rebounding and shotblocking.
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I read about this earlier today, and it did spark some interest in me. I'm sure the last thing the FO wants to do is trade Iggy to a team in the division. Still, I like what Calderon brings to the table, and it can allow Jrue to go to his more natural position. Turner would move to SF, and I'm alright with that.

I know a decent amount about Kidd-Gilchrist, but not much about Drummond. I don't remember hearing his name once last year. Anything special there?
 
The staff has said they want an athletic big man. Drummond has all the length and athleticism you can ask for. Raw on offense, and a beast on defense. Pretty much everything that was said about Favors 2 years ago can be applied to Drummond, as well as the measurements.

It's actually another guy form UConn that has me most intrigued. Jeremy Lamb. If he's there at 8, and we're not packaging for a trade up, he's one I'd definitely be willing to trade Iguodala for. Terrific athlete. Terrific length (6'5" with a 7'1" wingspan). Very quick. I absolutely love his defensive potential. Offensively, he's a terrific mid range shooter. Struggled from the 3 point line after being solid his frosh year, but definitely has potential as an NBA 3 point shooter. He's already pretty good as a spot up shooter there, not so much off the dribble. Great at coming off the screen for mid range shots as well. Has a nice dribble and can create shots for himself. Not good enough at it yet though.

On the negative side, he's rail thin, and it's his biggest weakness. It really limits what he can do inside the paint with contact. A guy with his athleticism and length should have no problems there but he does. It also costs him guarding screens. Definitely needs to bulk up.
 
Jared Sullinger is the other guy I might be willing to trade Iguodala for the 8th pick. We all know about his athletic/physical limitations. We all know he plays under the rim. But he's a true low post player. His combination of post moves, touch, body, strength, and footwork make him a force in there. It allows him to play under the rim and still be a very effective player. He's also a very good shooter, even out to the 3 point line, as well as the FT line. Great rebounder. Good post defender. But obviously his weight makes him liability in pick and roll defense, and against Thad Young types. Not a shot blocker.

There's a thin line between Glen Davis and Al Jefferson with Sullinger. Me personally, I'm optimistic. Glen Davis' biggest problem has always been immaturity and laziness. I don't see too much of that in Jared, and he has a father who can keep him in check.

In summary, I like him as a replacement for Elton Brand.
 
Lamb would be an awesome pickup for this team. But if we want to do that, we will have to definitely trade up. He is a great talent, but needs to be bigger like you said. If we got him, where do you think he would fit in on this team?

Sullinger was someone I totally forgot about. He is a physical player that this team can definitely use. I liked watching him at Ohio St and thought he has more to offer at the NBA level. You said he is pretty much the replacement for Elton Brand, I see him as almost a replica of EB.
 
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Not sure how I feel about Dion Waiters or Harrison Barnes yet.
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Waiters is a good shooter, but nothing I'd go crazy over. He is a good player off the dribble who loves to attack the basket. He's a little small, so he would have to adjust to some of the 2 guards in the NBA. Wouldn't object if we brought him in either. Barnes I'm not sold on, he is a good athlete who doesn't seem to do one thing really well. A little overrated of you ask me.
 
PhinsPhan11 said:
Lamb would be an awesome pickup for this team. But if we want to do that, we will have to definitely trade up. He is a great talent, but needs to be bigger like you said. If we got him, where do you think he would fit in on this team?

Sullinger was someone I totally forgot about. He is a physical player that this team can definitely use. I liked watching him at Ohio St and thought he has more to offer at the NBA level. You said he is pretty much the replacement for Elton Brand, I see him as almost a replica of EB.
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I would see Lamb starting at SG with Turner starting at SF barring other trades/FA. I think he can be available at 8. I think the top 5 is pretty set with Davis, Robinson, Beal, MKG, and Drummond. After that it gets hazy. Barnes, Sullinger, Lamb, Waiters, and Lillard. A team could also fall in love with Perry Jones. I myself would prefer Jones over Barnes. You also have to consider GS is shopping the 7th pick for a vet wing like Iggy/Gay. The rumors I've heard on that though have been with Biedrins in the deal, in which they could **** off. They can amnesty him if they're still trying hard to unload him. And the Kings are reportedly looking to trade the 5th pick for a vet. So we should explore those 2 options as well.

As for Sullinger, I don't really see him as a Brand type. Brand is strictly a jump shooter now. Before the injury though, he definitely had a very good post game. Very strong player. But Sullinger doesn' have the agility, athleticism, and length that Brand had, and helped him become a terrific defender which he still is even after the injury, though not the shotblocker he once was.

I think Jefferson is the perfect comparison. Both are fat asses with great strength. Great post games, both back to basket, and face up. Both are good jump shooters. Both are the definition of under the rim players. Neither provides much defensively, though Jefferson has more length to be a better shot blocker. Both great rebounders. Neither great athletes, but both make up for it in pure skill. The similarities really are quite striking.
 
I was talking more of the Brand when he was playing with the Clippers, but I get what you're saying. Sullinger has a good post game, which can be very useful. I've seen him make some good moves in the post in some of the games that I saw of him.

If Lamb can bulk up a bit, I can really like the idea of Jrue at PG, Lamb at SG, and Turner at SF. That's a lot of talent and youth that would have the backcourt set for many years.
 
PhinsPhan11 said:
Waiters is a good shooter, but nothing I'd go crazy over. He is a good player off the dribble who loves to attack the basket. He's a little small, so he would have to adjust to some of the 2 guards in the NBA. Wouldn't object if we brought him in either. Barnes I'm not sold on, he is a good athlete who doesn't seem to do one thing really well. A little overrated of you ask me.
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I agree about Barnes. A good spot up shooter with good defensive potential. After that, not sure why some people are high on him. He can't dribble, so he's going to struggle creating a shot at the next level. It's why I knew Wes Johnson was going to flop offensively, and why Thad Young played literally 0% of the teams SF minutes last year. And he doesn't really have a great first step to make up for it either. Thad Young has a terrific first step and couldn't even do it. Just not seeing anything special with Barnes. At the very best I see Luol Deng. But just as likely, Travis Outlaw.

Speaking of Thad Young, did you know he was a 42% 3 point shooter at Georgia Tech shooting 3 of them a game? It's probably a lost cause now since Young shot 4 threes all year long, and only 22 the year before, but I wish he'd work on it and start shooting them again to help keep defenses honest.
 
PhinsPhan11 said:
I talking more of the Brand when he was playing with the Clippers, but I get what you're saying. Sullinger has a good post game, which can be very useful. I've seen him make some good moves in the post in some of the games that I saw of him.

If Lamb can bulk up a bit, I can really like the idea of Jrue at PG, Lamb at SG, and Turner at SF. That's a lot of talent and youth that would have the backcourt set for many years.
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IDK, I have a problem with Turner at the 3. He's just too limited length wise and athletically to be really effective there. But then I look at the numbers, and he's actually more effective playing the 3. So what do I know...
 
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