*Official NFL Free Agency thread*

[Feverdream]

Here's a sample mock that I just finished. I only set it for 4 rounds and then set out to hit the areas where I think the 'Phins are weak. I did one minor trade and ended up with two X-type WRs, a Mike LB, a quality Center, and a Big Back to pair with the one cut guys that we already have under contract. I would have liked to bring in another Corner, but couldn't resist Ross and Robinson.

• 29.
  Treylon Burks
  WR Arkansas
  
  
• 54.
  Chad Muma
  LB Wyoming
  
  
• 85.
  Alec Lindstrom
  OC Boston College
  
  
• 102.
  Justyn Ross
  WR Clemson
• 125.
  Brian Robinson Jr.
  RB Alabama
  
  

 

[GreenDolphinSt]

Here's a sample mock that I just finished. I only set it for 4 rounds and then set out to hit the areas where I think the 'Phins are weak. I did one minor trade and ended up with two X-type WRs, a Mike LB, a quality Center, and a Big Back to pair with the one cut guys that we already have under contract. I would have liked to bring in another Corner, but couldn't resist Ross and Robinson.

• 29.
  Treylon Burks
  WR Arkansas
  
  
• 54.
  Chad Muma
  LB Wyoming
  
  
• 85.
  Alec Lindstrom
  OC Boston College
  
  
• 102.
  Justyn Ross
  WR Clemson
• 125.
  Brian Robinson Jr.
  RB Alabama
  

I’ll take that! (Assuming we sign an OT)

 

[BillsFanInPeace]

Most teams have already made QB plans. Even those looking to the draft already have a "bridge" in place. Baker may find himself in a position where he has to accept a backup role if he wants to be on a team next year.

He will be traded to Colts or Seahawks before the draft IMO.

Colts would be the smart choice a playoff roster just need AVG qB play.

 

[rickd13]

He will be traded to Colts or Seahawks before the draft IMO.

Colts would be the smart choice a playoff roster just need AVG qB play.

If the Colts were smart, they would avoid Baker. I could see Seattle. A city like Seattle and Baker deserves each other.

 

[BillsFanInPeace]

If the Colts were smart, they would avoid Baker. I could see Seattle. A city like Seattle and Baker deserves each other.

Buy my count I see 8 teams right off my head that have zero starter or Baker would upgrade their starter.

Steelers
Indy
Philly
Detriot
NO
Car
Sea
Hou

 

[rickd13]

Buy my count I see 8 teams right off my head that have zero starter or Baker would upgrade their starter.

Steelers
Indy
Philly
Detriot
NO
Car
Sea
Hou

I disagree that he's an upgrade on some of those teams you listed, plus I don't get why any team would trade for a QB that isn't a franchise level QB. So what if he is marginally better than what you currently have? The question you have to ask yourself as a franchise, is can he win a championship. And my answer with Baker is no.

 

[BillsFanInPeace]

I disagree that he's an upgrade on some of those teams you listed, plus I don't get why any team would trade for a QB that isn't a franchise level QB. So what if he is marginally better than what you currently have? The question you have to ask yourself as a franchise, is can he win a championship. And my answer with Baker is no.

That’s cool. And understandable I don’t think you can win a championship with him either. But I also thought the same about the former 1st overall Matthew Stafford. And then he got out of the tire fire lions. Same could easily happen with the Browns.

He is arguably the 2nd best QB out of that class depending on how much people want to discount Lamar’s inability to pass.

Hurts and Philly might be the only team on that list where one could say they are on par or better than Baker

 

[Dolphinator530]

Petrified of the salary cap? Heh! Hyperbole does not suit you; either than or you've been unable to understand what several of us have been saying.

I'll try again, I doubt that you'll get it, but I will try.

The salary cap is real, but only over time. You can always bust it for a year or two, but eventually, you have to pay the price. ALL teams move some money into future years via signing bonuses, all of them. The trick is not to completely avoid doing this, but to minimize it. The Saints and the Falcons? They just missed on Watson because they were already blown.

You have to stay light against the cap, so you can go all in on whatever your biggest weakness is. Our biggest weakness, by far, is at OT, so we have to be willing to take a chance there. Armstead is a guy who has missed 38 games in 9 years of being the starter (about 4 games per year), and while this isn't optimal, it is the reason he is available--considering that he is a top 5 Tackle when healthy. Also, he's 31, which unlike a WR or RB, isn't old.

In my previous post, I pointed out that we are long on YOUNG Tackles on our roster and that if Armstead misses his typical 4 games, we would have adequate resources and that the players we have should even be better for watching a consummate professional in action.

Is Armstead a risk? Absolutely, but he is the right kind of risk. You may not think so, but go back and see how many people liked my original post. We may not be right, but this is the consensus opinion.

Yeah I think you have stayed this extremely well. Let’s say he plays 13 games and misses that four that you noted is pretty much average. He is an elite tackle so for 13 games you’re going to have a really good left side of the line likely going to have improvement at Center and right guard and to be determined at the right tackle position.

So in those 13 games you are hoping to go 9 and 4. So in those four games that he misses totally reasonable to expect to go 2-2 leaving you with 11 wins and very likely a playoff position. That record on the games he misses it really depends on where you are with your opponents but you get my point you don’t have to be perfect on those games he’s gone because when he is there he brings such an elite level of play that essentially if Miami improves at center 4/5 of the line could be extremely good allowing for more offensive production .

 

[BahamaFinFan78]

I disagree that he's an upgrade on some of those teams you listed, plus I don't get why any team would trade for a QB that isn't a franchise level QB. So what if he is marginally better than what you currently have? The question you have to ask yourself as a franchise, is can he win a championship. And my answer with Baker is no.

I think if you believe you are a playoff team, you make a trade to upgrade your QB position, if that is available. So like the Colts, they have a playoff roster minus a QB. He is probably the best available right now, so you trade for him.

 

[Jamesw]

Here's a sample mock that I just finished. I only set it for 4 rounds and then set out to hit the areas where I think the 'Phins are weak. I did one minor trade and ended up with two X-type WRs, a Mike LB, a quality Center, and a Big Back to pair with the one cut guys that we already have under contract. I would have liked to bring in another Corner, but couldn't resist Ross and Robinson.

• 29.
  Treylon Burks
  WR Arkansas
  
  
• 54.
  Chad Muma
  LB Wyoming
  
  
• 85.
  Alec Lindstrom
  OC Boston College
  
  
• 102.
  Justyn Ross
  WR Clemson
• 125.
  Brian Robinson Jr.
  RB Alabama
  

Fever, does this assume we land a FA tackle? Or do you think we can manage the OL situation with improvement via experience and coaching as is?

 

[rickd13]

I think if you believe you are a playoff team, you make a trade to upgrade your QB position, if that is available. So like the Colts, they have a playoff roster minus a QB. He is probably the best available right now, so you trade for him.

I wouldn’t. They already tried that with Wentz and they were smart enough to know that having an “upgrade” just isn’t good enough.

 

[fishbanger]

I think we also have pick 121. Maybe that punter. Like your draft

 

[BillsFanInPeace]

I wouldn’t. They already tried that with Wentz and they were smart enough to know that having an “upgrade” just isn’t good enough.

Wel that was their first mistake thinking Wentz was an upgrade to anything. Smartly rectifying that already. Now who is their QB. Or are they going to waste another year of Taylor and a playoff roster.

 

[bdizzle00]

Yeah I think you have stayed this extremely well. Let’s say he plays 13 games and misses that four that you noted is pretty much average. He is an elite tackle so for 13 games you’re going to have a really good left side of the line likely going to have improvement at Center and right guard and to be determined at the right tackle position.

So in those 13 games you are hoping to go 9 and 4. So in those four games that he misses totally reasonable to expect to go 2-2 leaving you with 11 wins and very likely a playoff position. That record on the games he misses it really depends on where you are with your opponents but you get my point you don’t have to be perfect on those games he’s gone because when he is there he brings such an elite level of play that essentially if Miami improves at center 4/5 of the line could be extremely good allowing for more offensive production .

You think Armstead alone would be a reason the Dolphins would go 9-4 in games he played in? Why not 13-0?

If you or anyone else honestly thinks the Dolphins would be that good by simply adding him, then why in the hell aren’t we being more aggressive in signing impact free agents in addition?

That’s my problem with all of this, if we are that close where we are one player away from being a team that could go 9-4 when that player plays, why not go all in on free agency?

Im fine either way, what I’m not fine with is half assing it either way.

 

[Feverdream]

Fever, does this assume we land a FA tackle? Or do you think we can manage the OL situation with improvement via experience and coaching as is?

This assumes we sign a Tackle in free agency. I'll be shocked if we don't.

Heh! I've been shocked before however. LOL