Once and for all, IT WAS A FORWARD PASS!

[The New Guy]

That was actual unintentional and it is a miniscule difference.

The point all along was it was too close to say one way or the other. if called legal there's no way they could overturn and if called illegal there was no way they could overturn.

That is not the only angle they would have on the play. Based on the angle we have where we can see Ben releasing the ball behind the second hash mark and Brown catching it in front of the second hash mark, I'm confident it would be even more clear with better angles. Whether the Refs would have actually gotten it right or not, who knows? There was more than 1 bad no call on that play. See the snap of the ball and pay attention to the WR at the top of the screen.

 

[nyjunc]

That is not the only angle they would have on the play. Based on the angle we have where we can see Ben releasing the ball behind the second hash mark and Brown catching it in front of the second hash mark, I'm confident it would be even more clear with better angles. Whether the Refs would have actually gotten it right or not, who knows? There was more than 1 bad no call on that play. See the snap of the ball and pay attention to the WR at the top of the screen.

maybe it was clearer on another angle? that is not one we had access to and based on what we had it is impossible to say for sure one way or the other.

 

[fin-atic]

Is there really a 20 page thread about a play that is completely irrelevant because he was out of bounds? This is like fighting for an offensive holding on the lineman on a dropped touchdown pass.

 

[AccordOn13z]

One thing is for certain: Had Brown not stepped out and the play went to review the Refs would not have the stones to overturn that pretty evident forward pass.

 

[MD]

Is there really a 20 page thread about a play that is completely irrelevant because he was out of bounds? This is like fighting for an offensive holding on the lineman on a dropped touchdown pass.

On 4th down.

 

[DuderinoN703]

Oh so you were watching as it happened.

Where's the humor in this? I was watching the game. Looking at your dumb photo doesn't show me anything I hadn't already seen live.

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watch again, and watch where the ball actually is when he releases it and watch the way he throws it.

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my lines were not crooked, the angle is different in the different images which you guys fail to notice.

The fact that you're disagreeing with us here that the lines were crooked just shows how ignorant you are. As if it's our eyesight that is ****ed here.

 

[Roman529]

I was screaming at the TV as Big Ben threw the forward lateral, but I am absolutely convinced that the refs would have run off the field and we would have gotten the crap end of the stick, and NO review. Unlike say a team like the Patriots, where the refs would have thrown the flag right when it happened and called an official timeout to reviewed things for THEIR Patriots for a good 15 minutes. Some teams get treated differently than the rest of the NFL.

 

[nyjunc]

Where's the humor in this? I was watching the game. Looking at your dumb photo doesn't show me anything I hadn't already seen live.

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The fact that you're disagreeing with us here that the lines were crooked just shows how ignorant you are. As if it's our eyesight that is ****ed here.

The humor is you saying you watched it as if at that precise moment you could tell if it was forward or not, it's asinine.

The line was not crooked, it wasn't perfect but it shows how close it was. It's comical how you mock me for saying it could go either way and pretend like you know for 100% fact.

 

[CalDolFan10x14]

Lotta crying and complaining about a stupid play coming from a fan who's team wasn't even involved in the game!!!

 

[psfign]

why are you guys wasting so much energy on something that doesnt matter AT ALL?! This thread is an exaple of what's wrong with this board. Of all the stuff concerning the Steelers game, this is the one with the most posts?! WHO CARES IF IT WAS A FORDWARD PASS OR NOT! IT DOESNT MATTER EITHER WAY!

 

[DolfanISS]

I can't believe this thread is 21 pages. Forward lateral or not it would have never been overturned and we'd be crying about it for weeks on Finheaven (including me). Our guys standing around is the bigger issue. Had we blown the game on that play the standing around is what we should be talking about not the forward lateral. It looked like many Miami defenders were waiting for someone to make a tackle. We talk about how our guys don't finish and this past Sunday they actually did a fantastic job less that one play. We're lucky he stepped out but Pittsburgh was almost lucky they caught us napping.

I don't understand how folks think nyjunc is taking credit away for the win. Had Pittsburgh beat us it would have been do to a luck play where at least 7 of our 11 defenders were relaxing. It's not like the Steelers steamrolled our defense as they drove down the field to only have the unlucky break of their guy stepping out of bounds. That whole play was the definition of luck and Pittsburgh would have been very, very lucky to win on a play like that. That's common sense. Miami deserved the win more for the plays leading up to that one after they went up by 3. They were dominant on defense on Pittsburgh's last 2 posessions prior to that play.

 

[The New Guy]

The humor is you saying you watched it as if at that precise moment you could tell if it was forward or not, it's asinine.

The line was not crooked, it wasn't perfect but it shows how close it was. It's comical how you mock me for saying it could go either way and pretend like you know for 100% fact.

Your line is crooked. I don't care what the angle of the picture is. You can't start your line behind the second hash mark and have it end up in front of that same hash mark (by a good margin), and call that a straight line. You even started to draw the line before Brown even has the ball in his possession.

My lines started when Ben released the ball and were straight. See post 187. Notice how the distance between my line and the 35 yardline remains the same from the bottom of the screen to the top of it. We know the 35 yardline is straight, so my line that is an equal distance from the bottom of the line and the top proves that it is straight. The distance between your line changes from the top to bottom which proves it was crooked. Something that can easily be seen with the naked eye, but keep on believing whatever you want to if it makes you feel better.

 

[DuderinoN703]

The humor is you saying you watched it as if at that precise moment you could tell if it was forward or not, it's asinine.

The line was not crooked, it wasn't perfect but it shows how close it was. It's comical how you mock me for saying it could go either way and pretend like you know for 100% fact.

Huh? I saw the play, live, and then was able to go back and forth looking at it as many times as I wanted b/c I have DVR. Do you not have a DVR? Are you living in 1988 or something?

You arguing the line being crooked (or not) should be evidence you need to get a new eye prescription.

 

[gafin]

This helps show it was forward, where he caught the ball was forward of the red line:

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/eye-on...n-overreactions-snow-will-ruin-the-super-bowl

Except that even if Brown had managed to remain inbounds, all scoring plays are reviewed, and there's the little matter of Ben Roethlisberger's forward lateral (which is illegal) that sent Brown scurrying down the sidelines

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Of course, this is the NFL, where officials have proven repeatedly that they're not afraid to miss a call and miss it badly. It's not difficult to paint a scenario where the forward lateral would have somehow been overlooked and the Steelers would have been gifted the win.

And while that would have been great for Pittsburgh's ever-dwindling playoff hopes, it would have set off a crap storm, the likes of which we haven't seen since ... well, last week when coach Mike Tomlin tried to slow dance with Jacoby Jones.

And, really, no one needs to relive that. The Steelers are done. Let's move on to more important December topics, and we'll revisit the Steelers in the spring when they're reshaping their roster and preparing for the draft.

 

[DuderinoN703]

why are you guys wasting so much energy on something that doesnt matter AT ALL?! This thread is an exaple of what's wrong with this board. Of all the stuff concerning the Steelers game, this is the one with the most posts?! WHO CARES IF IT WAS A FORDWARD PASS OR NOT! IT DOESNT MATTER EITHER WAY!

If it's such a pain to you I'd suggest not coming in this one thread. It's up to you what you do on the site.

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gafin thanks for the photo!

Argue against this photo Junc. Let's hear your spin.