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Philbin and Ireland were "not entirely convinced" he would beat out Moore (Flynn)
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Ilovemyfins4eva
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the crappiest of crappy qbs win national titles. also, the best qbs in the nfl today did not win anything significant in college ( manning, brady, rodgers, big ben, brees)look no further than alabama. u think any of their qbs will ever be top prospects? they win on defense, as do most teams in the sec. not saying flynn cant be different, just saying when u allude to his national title, big ****.
as for his first 2 games being spectacular, if u want to say his game vs detroit in the finale was spectacular, ok fine, fair, but the patriot game in 2010 was a solid game, their was nothing spectacular about that game whatsoever.
the jury is out on flynn, will see what happens in seattle. i dont expect much, but that is why they play the game.
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Spectacular????? VS NE he threw a crucial pick 6 and led a pathetic 2 minute offense at the end that rivaled that of Donavan McNabb's in the Super bowl vs NE. The pack had a chance to win the game at the end but the 2 minute drill was slow motion.
Honestly I thought Flynn played well under the circumstance, backup QB first start in Foxboro, but not spectacular.
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Folks like you don't realize it, but you're the flag carriers for a group of people that make threads like this one and subscribe to a certain theory that involves anything but common sense...
http://www.finheaven.com/forums/showthread.php?303046-Taking-Names!
Read that thread thoroughly and see if you can figure out for yourself who's always a fool's fool and who isn't...
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or it furthers my point that Matt Flynn's offer had nothing to do with budgets
Better be careful Teddy, you're gonna lose your "realist" credibility with all of those Pavlovians and Henne Heinie Huggers who are automatically programmed to think that Moore sucks because what he's done for us is automatically tainted vs what he might have done for someone else :idk:
dlockz
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Not to bash Moore but i dont think SF goes to the title game with him because he turns the ball over more than Smith and thats omne reason SF could win with him.
moore has basically averaged a fumble per start in his career along with an interception per game the last three seasons 22 games started 21 int. He started 12 games this year had 9 int . Smith started all 16 games and still had less interceptions and fumbles than Moore by far. 10 combined interceptions and fumbles compared to Moore's 23 combined.
smith is not a great qb but his amount of interceptions and fumbles were pretty damn good last year by any stretch.
Actually, in the 13 games Moore played this year, he had 9 ints, but in the 12 he started he had 8 ints or .75 int/game. He did have a lot of fumbles but when it comes to those not recovered resulting in turnovers, not as many as Bradford or Sanchez, the same as Flacco and just one more than Rivers and Roethlessburger. The SB MVP, Eli himself averaged 1 int per game and had only 2 less fumbles that resulted in turnovers and he made it pretty far. Yes Smith doesn't turn the ball over too much, and that's not only compared to Moore but compared to most, but then again Smith didn't have Marshall dropping 4-7 end zone TD passes or turnstyles named Columbo and Carey letting the visigoths through. So to say Moore wouldn't have gone as far as Smith is pure conjecture if Moore was gifted the weapons Smith had to work with.
Now given that, I have never contended that Moore is the better QB of the two, only, and validly IMO that the difference between Moore and Smith is negligible and certainly doesn't warrant paying Smith 4X as much. :idk:
Ireland's opinion means nothing to me...if Philbin wasn't sold on him I'm good with it.
dlockz
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Well we will never know whose decison it was. I do feel if Philbin thought Flynn wasnt all that why would they bring him in, no need to kick the tires since he worked with him everyday. he also had to know that Flynn was not coming here for less money than Richard friggin Marshall
ohall
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Why because it doesn't fit into your conspiracy theory? I listed a few reasons why teams bring in FA players, all the time. The fact is Flynn knew what they were offering before he agreed to a trip. There were multiple reports about how the Dolphins were low balling him, days before he agreed to come to Miami for a visit. If you want to blame someone, you can blame Flynn for wasting his own time.
The point you keep jumping over is, the Dolphins, by the amount they offered him, made it clear he had to work for it here. He wasn't going to be handed the starting job. IMO Flynn was probably offended and maybe a little hurt that Philbin felt that way. There's no way Ireland ignored Philbin's opinion of Flynn. And even less of a chance they wouldn't of signed him if they thought him a franchise QB.
But continue to let your hatred for Ireland guide you. The man does something so obviously right, and the haters can't stop hating.
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i hope ireland supporters are ready for another great 0-7 start.
They sure didn't pay him like he was.